Wonder Woman vs team

Diana has gone up against multiple teams. She held her ground when she was blind against the Justice League. Sure, they weren't going all out, but she still proved why she's a top dog. On top of that, she was holding her on against multiple villains in WW annual 1 (about two years ago)...

Dianas has the strenght advantage, the skill, the weapons and speed. She's tagged Wally, Zoom, Jessie Quick, Amazo and Cheetah all of whom are far faster than the opponents she's facing.

She's stalemated Superman, Captain Marvel, bested Etrigan, Powergirl, Supergirl, Evil Mary Marvel, held her own against a Doomsday clone, defeated Genocide and Achilles.

Although, she'll duke it out, I wouldn't be surprised if Diana decided to use her weapons. She'll be able to lasso half of her opponents, use her tiara as an offensive weapon and might fry all of them with her vambraces. She has soo many options, but people underestimate her and don't know her true potential when written correctly. So with that said, Diana takes the majority.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
She's in Superman's weight class.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t495372.html

She's helped tow the moon.
http://s477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/?action=view&current=JLA05814.jpg

She's lifted a train.
http://s477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/?action=view&current=wonderwoman14416178oi.jpg

She's helped move the earth.
http://s477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/?action=view&current=jla75p414hj.jpg

Show me one feat these guys have that match those.

Are you asking for pulling feats or lifting feats? Different. Wonderman PULLED an entire island that had mountains connected to it. He has also survived a sun going nova on him when he was rambed into it by hyperion.

Now if we are looking at "lifting" feats which doesn't require the aid of flight and durability. Then I really can't give you that for any of them. I know that grey Hulk destroyed a asteroid that was twice the size of earth but that's not a lifting feat. I also know that when angry, grey Hulk can hit just as hard if not harder han his green counterpart.

I know that classic rogue stopped a train with noting but strength alone and she punched juggernaut so hard that the shockwaves shattered every window in a city. I also know that she was punched all the way from new york to the moon by binary and "tanked" it.

Colossus strength has koed savage Hulk and has given Juggernaut fits.

Holocaust shouldn't even be explained. He is powerful enough to hurt hurt. If his punch was strong enough to rock king hype, if push came to shove, he can drop wondy and let's not forget his soul sucking power.

Blob is class 90 and can increase his mass.

Ms. Marvel has dropped an angry Sentry along with high end Skrulls who possessed the powers of earths heros and she has the powerset to give wondy trouble.

Sinister is the key... he is the most versatile on the field and I can see him also giving wondy hell while she is fighting the rest of the team.

what have flight and durability got to do with anything?

Let me boil down the team's threat level to Wondy:

Rhino: Lol.

Grey Hulk: One dimensional, albeit good in his dimension. Still going to be beaten by Diana.

Wonderman: Flying brick, enough to be bothersome, but not skilled enough to be able to hang with WW for a long time.

Ms. Marvel: Probably the team's MVP. Unfortunately, her main array of offense is something Diana can evade or block with the bracers.

Classic Rogue: Draining is her best bet, but as her success rate with godly powers is sketchy, there's enough doubt to consider whether or not it would work. Assuming it did, Diana can recharge lost energy with prolonged contact with the Earth (though it's doubtful she would be allowed that chance unless she dealt with the other fliers). Also depends if Rogue goes for the drainage right away and if she'll be able to reach Diana before being dismissed heavily.

Blob: Lol.

Colossus: See Grey Hulk.

Sinister: Tricky and versatile, but not enough to beat Diana.

Holocaust: Tough, but not insurmountable.

Assuming the fliers work with perfect teamwork and coordination - which is unlikely - they're still fighting a foe physically beyond them and incredibly skilled. If/when the flies are beaten or damaged extensively to the point of not being able to fight any longer, the grounded team mates are going to be dealt with one by one.

Rogue WILL drain her. the only Chance Wondy has is if her ties down Rogue right off the bat.

Originally posted by marwash22
Rogue WILL drain her. the only Chance Wondy has is if her ties down Rogue right off the bat.

It's debatable that she can based her success rate of god/god-like beings, imo. Considering Diana is powered/blessed by the Olympian pantheon and Rogue has shown that she can't always drain powers effectively if the source is too great, it's something worth considering on either end. I'm perfectly willing to accept it could be possible, but I don't think it would be wise to assume it would definitely happen.

Assuming she does go for the drain right away and that it would be successful, I don't think Rogue is fast/skilled enough to get a good drain of Diana's attributes before she gets put down via physical effort or by her weapons.

why could rogue drain her? wondy is way faster than rogue

Diana is animated clay. I doubt she can be drained period.

Originally posted by MrMind
why could rogue drain her? wondy is way faster than rogue

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Let me boil down the team's threat level to Wondy:

Rhino: Lol.

Grey Hulk: One dimensional, albeit good in his dimension. Still going to be beaten by Diana.

Wonderman: Flying brick, enough to be bothersome, but not skilled enough to be able to hang with WW for a long time.

Ms. Marvel: Probably the team's MVP. Unfortunately, her main array of offense is something Diana can evade or block with the bracers.

Classic Rogue: Draining is her best bet, but as her success rate with godly powers is sketchy, there's enough doubt to consider whether or not it would work. Assuming it did, Diana can recharge lost energy with prolonged contact with the Earth (though it's doubtful she would be allowed that chance unless she dealt with the other fliers). Also depends if Rogue goes for the drainage right away and if she'll be able to reach Diana before being dismissed heavily.

Blob: Lol.

Colossus: See Grey Hulk.

Sinister: Tricky and versatile, but not enough to beat Diana.

Holocaust: Tough, but not insurmountable.

Assuming the fliers work with perfect teamwork and coordination - which is unlikely - they're still fighting a foe physically beyond them and incredibly skilled. If/when the flies are beaten or damaged extensively to the point of not being able to fight any longer, the grounded team mates are going to be dealt with one by one.

And you are forgetting the main key here... Wondy is going against a team... this isn't solo and Wonderman would give her hell.

None of these guys have worked together as part of a team with the others.......

Originally posted by marwash22
because there are 8 other people opposing Wondy.

Wonder Man and Grey Hulk would be sufficient to take like 7/10 against Diana unless we're using the version in people's heads where she zooms around at trans light speeds using the lasso consistently.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
None of these guys have worked together as part of a team with the others.......

Originally posted by carver9
And you are forgetting the main key here... Wondy is going against a team... this isn't solo and Wonderman would give her hell.

A team with next to no rapport and all people with skill factors marginally below what Diana is capable of. Not to mention their overall mobility is crap. If they had more flying members, Diana would be in more trouble. As it stands, they don't. Why would Diana fight them on the ground when she can hang in the sky and deal with a much smaller force? Assuming they're going to work with JLA or Avengers style efficiency and team work doesn't make it so. Just a bunch of people all attacking in tandem isn't going to work when most of them won't be able to reach Diana to begin with.

It's a tough fight regardless, something I've admitted when I first replied. But the team doesn't have the capability to pull off a decisive majority here.

She's faster than them by a HUGE margin. Show me proof they can touch her.

wondy has caught flash with her lasso, she's fast in term of reaction/combat speed no doubt about that. she can dodge most of their attacks no problem

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
She's faster than them by a HUGE margin. Show me proof they can touch her.

It's a fact that characters don't fight at their full potential and you can't just make Wondy fight out of character just to make an argument... if we did this, Flash would shit stomp in every single thread 'cause 99% of characters can't even see him when he goes at his max.

Show me an instance where Wondy has used the full extent of her speed (right off the bat) against an opponent that she knew wasn't a speedster. Bottom line, character's hardly ever speedblitz, stop changing character personalities.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wonder Man and Grey Hulk would be sufficient to take like 7/10 against Diana unless we're using the version in people's heads where she zooms around at trans light speeds using the lasso consistently.

If that were the case, then what's the point of writing comics , or having multiple heros? All Dc would need would be the Flash or Silver Surfer for Marvel.

In the Justice League Diana was able to lasso Amazo, the same android who had Flashe's powerset. In hypotethical women, Diana was able to land a blow to Wally, who was trying to kill her. During her encounter with Powergirl, Karen was unable to land a single punch when Diana was using her flexes and speed. Anyway, if you want to continue ignoring her speed and reflexes, its up to you. Diana has demostrated on multiple occasions that she can land hits on Flash, Cheetah, Amazo and Zoom. I can give you the number of individual issues or trades.

Originally posted by marwash22
It's a fact that characters don't fight at their full potential and you can't just make Wondy fight out of character just to make an argument... if we did this, Flash would shit stomp in every single thread 'cause 99% of character can't even see him when he goes at his max.

Isn't that what happens here, though? I mean, we're supposed to have all characters fight at full potential by default - albeit in character - and Flash, in forum settings, is pretty tough to beat unless you have a really good power set to overcome him.