Wonder Woman vs team

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, she really can't. She'd be like a statue frozen in time. I know that scene. And like what happens in 95% of his appearances, Wally's abilities are forgotten or toned down. You're listing Diana's higher end showings. If I do the same for Wally, it's simply not a contest. It is what it is.

Wasn't it also outright stated that the Starro lacked the experience and/or control that Wally had of his abilities? I recall someone mentioning that.

Writers have to tone him down or ignore his shown capabilities to right stories involving him that don't end in moments. I've seen writers outright admit it.

True, money's tight nowadays. Why would you waste your money on Diana or Superman when you can read about Thor? ❌

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I haven't open hypothetical women, in over two years ago. I'd have to reread the trade. I can't remember that being stated. Your right, Wally abilities are always ignored, but the same is said for Diana. Hero's aren't written to their best abilities, that includes Thor. 😛... Diana's tagged speedsters on multiple occasions.

Diana, Clark and Hal are my three favorite superheroes. I grew up watching the Superfriends, thus I prefer Dc characters. However, I give credit where its due. Although, Diana is one of my favorite characters i'd give the Surfer the majority over her. But, seriously, I like Thor but happen to love other characters more. 😉..

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lasso, tiara, Aegis bracers.

Sinister can put up shields though.

He can't shield from the tiara. I don't see him escaping the lasso.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, Diana's not hitting into the SF by herself. I've seen some posters use that scan as proof she can which is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as Superman Speed Force dumping people, which...yeah. Lol.

Lassoing Jesse as she's entering the SF would require reflexes on par to compensate for that kind of speed if Diana wasn't moving at that speed herself.

...*sigh*... I was going to ask you to become my new best friend. But, after reading this statement your no longer worthy 😛

Where's the dislike button?? 😱

Originally posted by aztec
I read hypothetical women, over two years ago. I'd have to reread the trade. I can't remember that being stated. Your right, Wally abilities are always ignored, but the same is said for Diana. Hero's aren't written to their best abilities, that includes Thor. 😛... Diana's tagged speedsters on multiple occasions.

Diana, Clark and Hal are my three favorite superheroes. I grew up watching the Superfriends, thus I prefer Dc characters. However, I give credit where its due. Although, Diana is one of my favorite characters i'd give the Surfer the majority over her. But, seriously, I like Thor but happen to love other characters more. 😉..

Oh, I have no doubt she can tag speedsters. She can tag almost any speedster. The problem is, that Wally is basically the cream of the crop when it comes to speedsters. At least before Geoff and his Silver Age fetish took over. ermm

Yea, a lot of characters have their abilities toned down. It's especially frustrating for me because my two favorite characters are Wally and Thor. Two characters who have such hax powers, that their almost always ignored.

I'm just joking. Different strokes for different folks and all that. Thor or Diana in a fight?

And you better pick the right one. ahuh

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Sinister can put up shields though.

Diana's tiara has broken though shields before. The lasso has gotten around shield as well. Not sure how the Aegis bracelets would interact with shields, though. It's borne of Zeus' own power, albeit on a smaller scale.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Sinister can put up shields though.

If I'm not mistaken Diana has used the lasso as an offensive weapon against shields. I might be wrong, i'd need to look through my issues.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He can't shield from the tiara. I don't see him escaping the lasso.

So the lasso can by-pass shields nowadays?

Edit: Nevermind, read Jake's post. I'll trust you.

Originally posted by aztec
...*sigh*... I was going to ask you to become my new best friend. But, after reading this statement your no longer worthy 😛

Where's the dislike button?? 😱

Aww. 🙁

Eh, I try to be objective when it comes to characters I've followed for years. Diana often gets overblown to extreme levels or underrated; she's tough to find even ground here, imo. I think she's a great character and all, but no, she's not entering the Speed Force under her own power lol. Neither is Clark.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
So the lasso can by-pass shields nowadays?

Edit: Nevermind, read Jake's post. I'll trust you.

Yeah, sometimes when Diana uses it as a knuckle duster of sort or by the whole "truth" aspect which gets around it. The lasso has done some pretty wacky stuff before. As is, the tiara's properties coupled with class 100 + strength put behind the throw is the safer bet for such defenses, imo.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
So the lasso can by-pass shields nowadays?

Edit: Nevermind, read Jake's post. I'll trust you.

Lol...

Jake is a trust worthing guy... he is very reasonable (even though we disagree a lot).

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh, I have no doubt she can tag speedsters. She can tag almost any speedster. The problem is, that Wally is basically the cream of the crop when it comes to speedsters. At least before Geoff and his Silver Age fetish took over. ermm

Yea, a lot of characters have their abilities toned down. It's especially frustrating for me because my two favorite characters are Wally and Thor. Two characters who have such hax powers, that their almost always ignored.

I'm just joking. Different strokes for different folks and all that. Thor or Diana in a fight?

And you better pick the right one. ahuh

I'm not taking anything away from Wally, he's my favorite speedster and clearly the fast superhero. I feel the same way about him, especially when he gets taken down soo easily by Captain Cold. However, he gets wanked far more than Diana 😛 ...

Diana vs. Thor... We'll talk about that some other day... I'm tired and need to study for finals.. But, just to make it clear the blond isn't winning. 😛

Hey, maybe next time I log in (three months from now) we can exchange ideas... I don't mind learning.reading more on Thor, especially since the movie is out this year...

Everyone has his or her favorite superhero, álthough it sounds weird I believe we reflect them. We admire traits they have, and or posses some of theirs. Anyway, take care.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...

Jake is a trust worthing guy... he is very reasonable (even though we disagree a lot).

Me am trustworthy. duryes

The lasso and tiara both have proven shield busting feats. I'm sure the lasso has busted a GL shield.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The lasso and tiara both have proven shield busting feats. I'm sure the lasso has busted a GL shield.

It has, though it wasn't a Hal/Kyle shield. At least not the example I'm recalling; it was during an issue in which Diana was fighting the Khund again.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Aww. 🙁

Eh, I try to be objective when it comes to characters I've followed for years. Diana often gets overblown to extreme levels or underrated; she's tough to find even ground here, imo. I think she's a great character and all, but no, she's not entering the Speed Force under her own power lol. Neither is Clark.

I never said she could, but that wasn't the answer i'd expect from you 😛

I also belive Diana gets downplayed, which is why I'd rather debate for her than Superman.... Also, its hard to keep track of Clark. He has soo many apperances/inconsistencies.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Me am trustworthy. duryes

Ok, I change my mind... after reading this, he isn't trust worthy.

😕

😉

Regarding Flash's rogues gallery, they're alot more dangerous than they act with Flash. They have an understanding with him. Look at Rogues revenge. They're far more dangerous than they let on.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The lasso and tiara both have proven shield busting feats. I'm sure the lasso has busted a GL shield.

Í think the instance your referring to was recent. It was issue number 18/19. I'm might be mistaken, but she's also used it against the Sinestro clone in "Lifelines".

Originally posted by aztec
I never said she could, but that wasn't the answer i'd expect from you 😛

I also belive Diana gets downplayed, which is why I'd rather debate for her than Superman.... Also, its hard to keep track of Clark. He has soo many apperances/inconsistencies.

Always expect the truth from me. Always! ha-son Except when I'm being a fanboy, in which case, Orion solos.

Yeah, generally, I feel that she gets downplayed, but not out of a purposeful lowballing intent. I just don't think a whole lot of people follow her outside of JLA. But that's just me. Superman is a whole 'nother beast entirely. People, to me, anyway, treat him like a mid-herald or a damn abstract being.