Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Always expect the truth from me. Always! ha-son Except when I'm being a fanboy, in which case, Orion solos.Yeah, generally, I feel that she gets downplayed, but not out of a purposeful lowballing intent. I just don't think a whole lot of people follow her outside of JLA. But that's just me. Superman is a whole 'nother beast entirely. People, to me, anyway, treat him like a mid-herald or a damn abstract being.
The same is said about a-lot of Marvel characters. I hate when they downplayed Cyclops. He could f*ck the Hulk!!! 😄 ...
I rather follow Diana in the Justice League, she has higher showings outside of her book. Many readers are unfamiliar with her villains and their capabilities. If you pitt Diana against Black Adam or Sinestro people's opions about her will change.
Once again, Superman we both agree on Superman. Its hard for me to debate for him. Also, i'm unfamaliar with some of the heroes/villains he's up against. I'm mostly an Xmen reader, and on occasions buy Marvel trades which are cheap on Amazon (The Illuminati, Thor, Silver Surfer, Ms. Marvel....)... I want too read more on Marvel characters, because next to my Dc trades and individual issues their insignificant. 😄
Originally posted by marwash22
ohhhhhhhh. you mean how Wally is Waaaaaaay faster than Diana, yet she manages to hit him? Gimme a break; you people fall back on speed much too often for my liking.It's a fact that characters don't fight at their full potential and you can't just make Wondy fight out of character just to make an argument... if we did this, Flash would shit stomp in every single thread 'cause 99% of characters can't even see him when he goes at his max.
Show me an instance where Wondy has used the full extent of her speed (right off the bat) against an opponent that she knew wasn't a speedster. Bottom line, character's hardly ever speedblitz, stop changing character personalities.
"you people"? sneer
also, there is the full capacity rule.
Originally posted by carver9
If flash doesn't want her hitting him, its not happening. He is leagues above her in the speed dept.
and she's leagues above this team. see how this works?
Re: Wonder Woman vs team
Originally posted by carver9In a blur, she decapitates most of the team with her tiara. Or her lightning kills most of them. Or she simply hefts the ground they stand on into the sun. Leaving the flyers who aren't fast enough to avoid being hog tied by the indestructible rope.
The people she is facing...Rhino
Grey Hulk
Wonderman
Ms. Marvel
Classic Rogue
Blob
Colossus
Sinister
HolocaustCan she take them out?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankthey are combined more powerful than she is.
I've not really heard a convincing argument for the team outside of numbers advantage. Considering most of them can't fly let alone keep up with Diana's moderate combat speed - let alone her high end speed - I see this as Diana fighting them at her leisure.At absolute best, if team does indeed take the majority, I don't see how you could argue more than 6/10 in their favor.
Originally posted by Starscream M
they are combined more powerful than she is.
That assumes the team is going to attack all at once with a level of teamwork and coordination for it to matter and to keep the fight grounded so the non-fliers of the teams can get some licks in. I just find that as highly unlikely as Diana's skill and speed advantage should keep her from being grounded, imo. The fliers are her biggest threat and if the team loses them, then they're pretty much done here.
Originally posted by marwash22
ohhhhhhhh. you mean how Wally is Waaaaaaay faster than Diana, yet she manages to hit him? Gimme a break; you people fall back on speed much too often for my liking.It's a fact that characters don't fight at their full potential and you can't just make Wondy fight out of character just to make an argument... if we did this, Flash would shit stomp in every single thread 'cause 99% of characters can't even see him when he goes at his max.
Show me an instance where Wondy has used the full extent of her speed (right off the bat) against an opponent that she knew wasn't a speedster. Bottom line, character's hardly ever speedblitz, stop changing character personalities.
Classic.