Bat Girl (cassie) vs Punisher

Originally posted by Deadline
I'm going to try one last time. Punisher has gone up against opponents faster than Cassie and who are highly skilled, her speed isn't enough to give her an advantage. Shes a better martial artist but she may not neccesarily be a better fighter, again the skill gap maybe greater but it's not enough. Otherwise people like DD, Deadpool, Daken and Kraven The Hunter would wipe the floor with him.

Oh and Kraven has beaten Black Panther, a guy who has comparable skills to Cap and is enhanced as well.

1.Her speed is an advantage
2. Her higher level of skill indeed make her the better figher.
3.Not enough for what? to make her the better fighter? umm, yeah it is.
4.These individuals are not as skilled as cassie, and as far as speed she can hang with them all. Her fights with Slade come to mind....

5. Stop Trying

Originally posted by namorsubby
1.Her speed is an advantage
2. Her higher level of skill indeed make her the better figher.
3.Not enough for what? to make her the better fighter? umm, yeah it is.
4.These individuals are not as skilled as cassie, and as far as speed she can hang with them all. Her fights with Slade come to mind....

5. Stop Trying

1. Not enough to give her an advantage
2. Not enough to give her an advantage.
3. To win.
4. I see so dardevil and black panther aren't as skilled as Cassie? Some of those guys listed are faster, stronger and one has a healing factor better than DS.

Originally posted by BigSid
OK I've been doing some reading on Cassie, I would say that she's faster and better in hand to hand than Frank but her equipment is basic compared to batman and she doesn't seem to use it that much.

She also seems to have a pretty good damage soak of her own from what I read.

So in the New York City Scenario, I think her speed combined with cover and smoke pellets let's her close with Frank and that she can beat him hand to hand, I would give it to her 7/10 based on Frank taking a few with sheer dirty fighting and taking a lot of punishment and refusing to stay down.

Scenario two favors Frank and his ranged weapons advantage, it's going to be much harder for her to dodge and close with him in a featureless Environment, so I would give Frank the majority 7/10 in that instance.

Kraven was using a teleporter when he was fighting Frank, Frank did just fine. I think Daken is harder to fight than Cassie.

Originally posted by namorsubby

4.These individuals are not as skilled as cassie

Originally posted by Deadline
I see so dardevil and black panther aren't as skilled as Cassie?

This is Punisher Vs. Cassie, Deadline, and she is most definitely the more skilled combatant.

I'm gonna call it a day. Read what I posted again.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
based on what? Because that BS.

Originally posted by Deadline
I'm gonna call it a day. Read what I posted again.

Batgirl FTM

Originally posted by namorsubby
Pun vs cass BH, don't get off track

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
then don't make statements that are BS and you cant back up.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I could, if I were debating those matches, but that is not mine and should not be your focus either. This is how debates gets derailed and never end.

Originally posted by namorsubby
No, but that's not important.

This is Punisher Vs. Cassie, Deadline, and she is most definitely the more skilled combatant.

It doesn't matter, black panthers skill is relevant because he stalemated a guy that beat him. Lets not pretend it isn't relevant because obvoulsy you decided she was more skillful based on her fights with others.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
However you don't factor in the fact Punisher stronger, much greater damage soak and weaponry that can put girl down if landed. You assume this will be straight forward h2h fight when it won't be. Punisher has weapons and he will use them.

Punisher is not subjected to pure h2h, he has range options as well as options with radius attack such as grenades

Originally posted by namorsubby
I could, if I were debating those matches, but that is not mine and should not be your focus either. This is how debates gets derailed and never end.

Look don't try it. You yourself have posted scans of fights with other opponents than the ones being discussed in the thread. You're just making excuses because you can't prove shes better than DD or BP.

Originally posted by Deadline
Look don't try it. You yourself have posted scans of fights with other opponents than the ones being discussed in the thread. You're just making excuses because you can't prove shes better than DD or BP.

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, Punisher's level of skill does not equate to DD's, Bp's, etc just because he's had a fight with them. Cassie is the better combatant in THIS match. and THAT is what matters. Your ABC logic is ineffective.

Right ok so why is Cassie better at h2h then?

Originally posted by namorsubby
Cassie is the better combatant in THIS match. and THAT is what matters.

Originally posted by Deadline
Right ok so why is Cassie better at h2h then?

you guys are hilarious

Originally posted by Deadline
Right ok so why is Cassie better at h2h then?

Probably because she has "Bat" in her name....at least that seems to be his reason.

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, now you're arguing the fact the she's better at all? seemed to be a given just before.....

you guys are hilarious

I asked you a question WHY? I said shes a better martial artist already.

hahaha I notice that as well silent.