Bat Girl (cassie) vs Punisher

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
except it doesent. Becuase we know simply being faster and more skilled does not equate to winning against Punisher based off the fact we seen how he fairs agaisnt faster and more skilled opponents. Also why do you keep leaving out the fact Punisher stronger, much higher damage soak and has weapons......

*sigh*

Originally posted by namorsubby
weapons which she can and will evade. She has weapons also. You also should know being stronger/more durable rarely holds weight when it comes to a h2h confrontation with cassie. She'll fight smart and hit him where it hurts(nerve strike, pressure point, etc)

Your pretty much using batgirl at her best and ignoring everything punisher done. You absurdly bias with out even realizing it, which makes it rather sad.

Yea those same nerve shots DD does more often and yet still fails to put Punisher down with, interesting no? But some how the weaker Batgirl is gunna do extremely better?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
again you are assuming she is going to evade all of punishers attacks while landing her own at will is ignoring Punisher entire history against top level streets.

Your pretty much using batgirl at her best and ignoring everything punisher done. You absurdly bias with out even realizing it, which makes it rather sad.

Yea those same nerve shots DD does more often and yet still fails to put Punisher down with, interesting no? But some how the weaker Batgirl is gunna do extremely better?

show me where DD has used nerve shots on pun and has failed to drop him? Because i've seen dd drop a 50 class with one, and that indeed would be "rather sad"

Punisher wins.

Originally posted by Deadline
Punisher has got guns for godsake. Cass isn't harder to hit than Daredevil, Spiderman or Captain America.

Hell even in h2h she might not win the majority unless you can prove shes better than DD.

Cass punches him into a coma

lmao

Cass.

Define standard weapons on punisher please. Sometimes "standard" includes what seems to be half a dozen grenade launchers strapped to an m16. On top of a SAW several pistols and several submachine guns on his person to a standard assault rifle and pair of pistols.

Frank gets guns lol.

Frank "ninja this" blows the crap outta her.

I'll just... leave this here.

Originally posted by Deadline
Right ok so why is Cassie better at h2h then?

Well, she has an altered brain chemistry from growing up in a bunker being trained to think in martial arts from birth, giving her superhuman coordination that lets her pull off attacks that are mentally impossible for a normal person, to read people's body to know what they're going to do before they do it, and as a result of the later picks up martial arts as fast as Taskmaster does, which she uses to modify and improve her own style.

DDD's not hearing it. Punisher wins... because Punisher wins.

Originally posted by The Nuul
You ask a Marvel fanboy and you'll get bias posts.

And I'm down with the shit too,
for the stupid mother****ers wanna try and use kung fu,
instead of a mac-10, he tried scrappin,
slugs in his back, yeah, thats what the **** happens
- Biggie

Movin' on a ninja with the speed of a centipede, and injure... any mothaphuckin' contender.

Actually, I think Punisher could very well take this, too. This isn't just some no-named street thug with a couple pistols. The guy has oodles and oodles of experience fighting supers. Not taking anything away from Batgirl, but Frank has the skills, resources, and experience to take a slight majority here.

Hell, he'd take himself out just to guarantee he takes her out with him.

Originally posted by Konton
I'll just... leave this here.

These scans mean what? Punisher and Elektra are not fighting, his guard is down, or lesser than it would normally be, there is no starting distance that needs to be closed in the scan and to top it all off, Elektra is beyond Cassie so.. 😕

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lmao

Cass.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Actually, I think Punisher could very well take this, too. This isn't just some no-named street thug with a couple pistols. The guy has oodles and oodles of experience fighting supers. Not taking anything away from Batgirl, but Frank has the skills, resources, and experience to take a slight majority here.

I will note that her dad has pretty much the same MO as Frank, and Deathstroke has never scored a win on her. Head to head, he's tried to shoot her plenty without it working, and he's superhuman. Heck, David Cain trained her by shooting at her head with a sniper rifle while blindfolded (her blindfolded, not him).

I mean, maybe if Frank has prep, he's a lot more dangerous with it, but strait fight? Nah, it's hard enough to hit her in melee, but guns point to where they fire before they do to boot.

She also has a tendency to not be too hindered by bullet wounds when she gets them due to being unable to dodge or tanking shots for civilians. Another one of her training exercises involved her being shot in the back, and then having to dodge Cain's gunfire and get into hand to hand. When she was 8.

Plus there's the 'bullet dance' thing she does, where four people fired at her at once, and she purposefully dodged *into* the line of fire of each one before avoiding the bullet... here.