Originally posted by Sadako of GirthI don't need proof. I have my faith, that's all I need.
He who calls his brother a fool will go to hell...
Your problem, I know..... 😖hifty:Proved that magic ninja not In front of you yet? Nope.
You do not believe in God and cannot disprove his existence.
I believe in God and cannot prove his existence.
Why can't you just leave it at that?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You're being a hypocrite. You're asking us for proof that we cannot provide, proof that the most renowned biblical scholars cannot provide. At the same time, you offer nothing in the line of evidence that he does not exist.Tell you what, prove God does not exist. Hard core definitive evidence, and I'll convert to atheism. That's a direct open challenge to all atheists/agnostics who ask for evidence of God's existence.
Put up or shut up.
Ive already shown where man was wrong about his god hypothesis (And that all it ever really was) at times in history.
Not show me proof where he was right...?
Right. You cant. So youre converting now, then we'll assume?
Originally posted by Rogue Jediare you thinking before you type? LOL
You're being a hypocrite. You're asking us for proof that we cannot provide, proof that the most renowned biblical scholars cannot provide. At the same time, you offer nothing in the line of evidence that he does not exist.Tell you what, prove God does not exist. Hard core definitive evidence, and I'll convert to atheism. That's a direct open challenge to all atheists/agnostics who ask for evidence of God's existence.
Put up or shut up.
religious side: no proof of gods existence
atheist side: no proof he doesn't exist
no proof god doesn't exist + no proof gods exist = non existent
to a mentally sound person anyway
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
There is. Writings, coins with his face on etc etc etc History with proven testable artifacts. The remains of Rome.... Probably DNA coding...PLUS Belief in Julias Caesar's existence requires no control over me.
And it requires me to suspend not ONE bit of my critical faculties in order to accept it as a possiblity.🙂
Fabrications. I can write extensive biographies of a false individual today in various languages, intellectually manipulate my personality in the text and write it in five different languages. I will then spread it around the world and when archeologists discover these books a thousand years from now, they just might use them as proof that this person existed.
Want a genuine letter, written by Dicky McFail, saying he's accepting an employment for a secret organization?
The DNA can be someone elses, unless you have him by your side to test it in person. For my fictional biographic pieces, I can use the DNA of a deceased baby and it'll all work out.
I am not asking about your belief in Julius Caesar. I'm asking for proof that he ever existed. You are pretty sure that he existed, because there are a shitload of indications of it, but you can not prove it. You can only reference to others writing.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
believers of science 😆 you mean atheists right. unless you don't believe scienceand weak how? im asking for evidence which coincidentally hasn't been shown yet 😆
try giving real input genius
No. I mean believers in science. It takes a certain amount of belief in order to refuse God. Which you are doing. Since we segregate science and religion, why not go all the way and call you believer in science. Since you preach science.
It is weak, because you have no proper footing. I have seen very little effort from any of you science dudes to give them any reason not to believe in God.
You ask for proof of God. They give you the reason why they believe. You have not presented a case that prove their reason wrong. All you have done is asked them to prove it more. Once they do this, you will ask them to prove it even more. Then even more.
You are weak, because you do not meet them half-way. You just ask, ask, ask. When they give, you ask for more. Learn to give, or you will be forever weak.
The show you put out, it's a pathetic display of desperate men sticking to their one argument, clinging to it like a baby to a blanket.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I don't need proof. I have my faith, that's all I need.You do not believe in God and cannot disprove his existence.
I believe in God and cannot prove his existence.
Why can't you just leave it at that?
The first line was enough to show us the utter lack of merit then that any opinion you could have would contain.
The reason Im not leaving it at 'that' is that Ive already proved that religion and God attributed deeds have been shown to be false, historically....you're misrepresenting/ignoring.
And the statement can be mirrored with 100% righteousness.
I dont need any proof, then that God doesn't exist. 🙂
Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b]Fabrications. I can write extensive biographies of a false individual today in various languages, intellectually manipulate my personality in the text and write it in five different languages. I will then spread it around the world and when archeologists discover these books a thousand years from now, they just might use them as proof that this person existed.Want a genuine letter, written by Dicky McFail, saying he's accepting an employment for a secret organization?
The DNA can be someone elses, unless you have him by your side to test it in person. For my fictional biographic pieces, I can use the DNA of a deceased baby and it'll all work out.
I am not asking about your belief in Julius Caesar. I'm asking for proof that he ever existed. You are pretty sure that he existed, because there are a shitload of indications of it, but you can not prove it. You can only reference to others writing.
No. I mean believers in science. It takes a certain amount of belief in order to refuse God. Which you are doing. Since we segregate science and religion, why not go all the way and call you believer in science. Since you preach science.
It is weak, because you have no proper footing. I have seen very little effort from any of you science dudes to give them any reason not to believe in God.
You ask for proof of God. They give you the reason why they believe. You have not presented a case that prove their reason wrong. All you have done is asked them to prove it more. Once they do this, you will ask them to prove it even more. Then even more.
You are weak, because you do not meet them half-way. You just ask, ask, ask. When they give, you ask for more. Learn to give, or you will be forever weak.
The show you put out, it's a pathetic display of desperate men sticking to their one argument, clinging to it like a baby to a blanket. [/B]
Nope all it takes ia a rejection of the absurd claims made by religion. 🙂
LOL Blanket clinging... The core of religion.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthLulz, not even a dent, bro. I lol at how atheists attribute their intentions as caring for us poor, delusional people, to help us realize that our faith is completely ill founded.
Ive already shown where man was wrong about his god hypothesis (And that all it ever really was) at times in history.Not show me proof where he was right...?
Right. You cant. So youre converting now, then we'll assume?
This is why I stay out of religious debates, people like you are too closed minded to discuss it with anything resembling objectivity.
Typical conversation between a Christian and an atheist:
Atheist: "I do not believe in God."
Christian: "Tell me why."
*The Christian listens closely as the atheist explains*
*When the atheist is done, the Christian decides to return the favor*
Christian: "OK, here's why I believe in God. I believe......."
*atheist covers ears and shakes head side to side*
Atheist: "NAANAANAANAANAANAANAAANAAA!!!!"
Peace.
Originally posted by Rogue Jediscenario brought to you by a christian
Lulz, not even a dent, bro. I lol at how atheists attribute their intentions as caring for us poor, delusional people, to help us realize that our faith is completely ill founded.This is why I stay out of religious debates, people like you are too closed minded to discuss it with anything resembling objectivity.
Typical conversation between a Christian and an atheist:
Atheist: "I do not believe in God."
Christian: "Tell me why."
*The Christian listens closely as the atheist explains*
*When the atheist is done, the Christian decides to return the favor*
Christian: "OK, here's why I believe in God. I believe......."
*atheist covers ears and shakes head side to side*
Atheist: "NAANAANAANAANAANAANAAANAAA!!!!"
Peace.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lulz, not even a dent, bro. I lol at how atheists attribute their intentions as caring for us poor, delusional people, to help us realize that our faith is completely ill founded.This is why I stay out of religious debates, people like you are too closed minded to discuss it with anything resembling objectivity.
Typical conversation between a Christian and an atheist:
Atheist: "I do not believe in God."
Christian: "Tell me why."
*The Christian listens closely as the atheist explains*
*When the atheist is done, the Christian decides to return the favor*
Christian: "OK, here's why I believe in God. I believe......."
*atheist covers ears and shakes head side to side*
Atheist: "NAANAANAANAANAANAANAAANAAA!!!!"
Peace.
Oh dear more roleplay in your head...?
Secular/totally non religious organisations do ALL the same jobs as the religious ones.
No the reason you stay out of religious debates is now patently obvious to us all. 🙂
Name a good deed that a religious dude could do, that a non religious one couldn't do......
Good ahead.
Do it.
🙂
Oh thats right, you cant.
Peace.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthDeeds? Oh boy........You think it's about what we DO, our ACTS.
Oh dear more roleplay in your head...?
Sceular totally non religious organisations do ALL the same jobs as the religious ones.No the reason you stay out of religious debates is now patently obvious to us all. 🙂
Name a good deed that a religious dude could do, that a non religious one couldn't do......
Good ahead.
Do it.
🙂Oh thats right, you cant.
Peace.
No time for such bullshit, have fun, guys. 🙄