show me some evidence, evidence, and evidence

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Right after you prove that theres not a sky fairy pulling the puppet you call god's strings.

Due the religious are the ones making the big wild unsubstantiated claims...burden (And that is SOME burden) is yours, dude.

I believe in God. It's a personal belief of mine. I'm not the one asking for proof of anything. The only time I asked for proof is when I was asked to provide proof of his existence.

I love this shit, typical atheist/agnostic stance: "I don't have to prove he does not exist, but YOU have to prove he exists." Look who started the thread, Jacko, look at who asked for proof. It's completely fair for myself and others to ask for the same thing.

Laughable. Bottom line is this: One either has faith in God, or not. There is literally no way to prove or disprove him.

am i the only person curious as to how you prove something DOESN'T exist 😬

sounds like a wild goose chase...

if i were to prove god doesn't exist wouldn't i start by searching for him 😬

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
am i the only person curious as to how you prove something DOESN'T exist 😬

sounds like a wild goose chase...

if i were to prove god doesn't exist wouldn't i start by searching for him 😬

OK, right back at you. How is anyone supposed to prove that God exists? How is someone supposed to provide hard core evidence that he exists?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, right back at you. How is anyone supposed to prove that God exists? How is someone supposed to provide hard core evidence that he exists?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

See, if I were going around preaching the gospel to others, trying to convert them, you'd have a right to ask me to prove God's existence. Thing is, I don't do that because I realize it's a futile effort. God is all about free will, it's one of the greatest gifts he gave us. If I go around trying to change someone's beliefs, I'm messing with their free will. The journey to discovering God, IMO, is a personal one.

I have faith in God because of certain events that happened to me in my early 20's. Since then I have been Christian, my faith[i] unshakable. It's not like God came down one day and bought me a cheeseburger haermm

Now, there you have it. You have my reason as to why I am not obligated to prove God exists. You also have my reason for being a Christian.

Now.....When you ask the forum for evidence of God's existence, you place yourself in the position of [i]disproving his existence, for the simple fact that you ask for proof.

So......Where's your proof of his non existence? That you cannot see, touch, hear or smell him? Dude that's WEAK. It's like you saying "Hey, cheese gives you herpes!!!!" and I say "No, it doesn't. Prove it."

Prove it.

Well until you elaborate on this incontrovertible proof of yours,
we're gonna have remain very very dubious about its cred as proof.

No hes not placed himself in that position at all. You simply dont understand. 🙁

Whether or not YOU preach, your religion does, and its very active in trying to tell people what to do.

Your line of responsibility shrugging is close to nuremberg defence in that regard.

If you had half the conviction in your god belief you now claim to have, you would have to know that you would be deeeeeeeep in the lake of fire by now.....

Nice that you have that to look forward to, eh...? 🙄

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
so in otherwords theres no proof he exists and no proof he doesn't exist because he nowhere to be found thus non existant 😱

Now, let's say I am full of shit here. So I'm full of shit, and? If believing in God makes me feel better, if it brings me peace, why would you DARE question it? You (non believers) do your thing, and let us (believers) do ours. Don't ask us for proof, and we'll return the favor.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
so in otherwords theres no proof he exists and no proof he doesn't exist because he nowhere to be found thus non existant 😱

There's no proof that Julius Caesar existed. Does that mean he did not?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, you don't get it.

I believe in God. It's a personal belief of mine. I'm not the one asking for proof of anything. The only time I asked for proof is when I was asked to provide proof of his existence.

I love this shit, typical atheist/agnostic stance: "I don't have to prove he does not exist, but YOU have to prove he exists." Look who started the thread, Jacko, look at who asked for proof. It's completely fair for myself and others to ask for the same thing.

Laughable. Bottom line is this: One either has faith in God, or not. There is literally no way to prove or disprove him.

Nope. I have to prove it no maore than you can prove that theres not an invisible ninja I sent to watch you in the room. Hes invisible. You cant smell of touch him......

now if asserted that seriously, I would have to bring some proof, right?

Calling believers of science. Calling believers of science.

That side of the argument needs some stronger defenders of their case against religion. This is weak.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well until you elaborate on this incontrovertible proof of yours,
we're gonna have remain very very dubious about its cred as proof.

No hes not placed himself in that position at all. You simply dont understand. 🙁

Whether or not YOU preach, your religion does, and its very active in trying to tell people what to do.

Your line of responsibility shrugging is close to nuremberg defence in that regard.

If you had half the conviction in your god belief you now claim to have, you would have to know that you would be deeeeeeeep in the lake of fire by now. 🙂

Nice that you have that to look forward to, eh...? 🙄

My religion preaches, but I don't. You wanna have this conversation, go to church and talk to a preacher.

Yes, I know that, according to the bible, I don't do all the things I am supposed to to be a "good Christian", but hey, that's my problem, not yours. Am I supposed to say "Oh well, I don't do every little thing I am supposed to, so bollocks with it?" Nope, can't do that. IMO God is a vengeful God, not a petty God. I don't take everything the bible says literally.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I can tell you this: Since my awakening, I have several vital prayers answered. I am more at peace than ever before.

Now, let's say I am full of shit here. So I'm full of shit, and? If believing in God makes me feel better, if it brings me peace, why would you DARE question it? You (non believers) do your thing, and let us (believers) do ours. Don't ask us for proof, and we'll return the favor.

Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b]There's no proof that Julius Caesar existed. Does that mean he did not? [/B]

There is. Writings, coins with his face on etc etc etc History with proven testable artifacts. The remains of Rome.... Probably DNA coding...

PLUS Belief in Julias Caesar's existence requires no control over me.
And it requires me to suspend not ONE bit of my critical faculties in order to accept it as a possiblity.

🙂

Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b]Calling believers of science. Calling believers of science.

That side of the argument needs some stronger defenders of their case against religion. This is weak. [/B]

Closed minded fools.

Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b]Calling believers of science. Calling believers of science.

That side of the argument needs some stronger defenders of their case against religion. This is weak. [/B]

and weak how? im asking for evidence which coincidentally hasn't been shown yet 😆

try giving real input genius

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lulz I don't have to elaborate on anything. The only people who know are ones I trust with it, ones I consider close.

My religion preaches, but I don't. You wanna have this conversation, go to church and talk to a preacher.

Yes, I know that, according to the bible, I don't do all the things I am supposed to to be a "good Christian", but hey, that's my problem, not yours. Am I supposed to say "Oh well, I don't do every little thing I am supposed to, so bollocks with it?" Nope, can't do that. IMO God is a vengeful God, not a petty God. I don't take everything the bible says literally.

How convenient. 🙄

Youre preaching that Atheism is wrong in your statements like "typical athiest" whilst speaking derogatorily, and embarrassingly inaccurately.

Well the bible says otherwise.
Hes petty and fickle too...all the time according to it.

Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b]There's no proof that Julius Caesar existed. Does that mean he did not? [/B]

were talking about a god of miracles & creator of the universe

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Indeed. "Hey, we can't see him, touch him or feel him, hey, he doesn't exist!!!" haermm

Closed minded fools.

He who calls his brother a fool will go to hell...
Your problem, I know..... 😖hifty:

Proved that magic ninja not In front of you yet? Nope.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
believers of science 😆 you mean atheists right. unless you don't believe science

and weak how? im asking for evidence which coincidentally hasn't been shown yet 😆

try giving real input genius

Tell you what, prove God does not exist. Hard core definitive evidence, and I'll convert to atheism. That's a direct open challenge to all atheists/agnostics who ask for evidence of God's existence.

Put up or shut up.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He who calls his brother a fool will go to hell...
Your problem, I know..... 😖hifty:

Proved that magic ninja not In front of you yet? Nope.

Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b]Calling believers of science. Calling believers of science.

That side of the argument needs some stronger defenders of their case against religion. This is weak. [/B]

What an informative and entirely worthwhile contribution. 🙄