Marvel speed vs DC speed

Originally posted by kgkg
Ok that's cool but than debates become lets use this guys top feat and with that he speed blitz everyone.

But what I don't understand is why is this only relevant to speedsters.... Why don't we use it with other power set.

Say..
Character X turns charter Y to salt
Character X stops time etc etc

and we can't ignore 99% of comics...If a speedsters is constantly getting tagged than chances are he will get tagged in forum battle. CIS is still active.

We ignore PIS showings but we can't ignore everything and label it PIS when a majority of showing shows the opposite.

I agree 100% with this. That's why I'm not the type that throws off... Glads will be untouchable to Thor because he has FTL reflexes. His history say otherwise. He has CONSISTENLY been tagged by similar people. I would also give Hulk the edge against him because again, consistency.

I can't THINK of an instant where Glads has fought at light speed. He has showings of working on a computer at hyper speed but its different imo, especially when you have something fighting back and again, him not showing that he can fight a moving target at those speeds.

Originally posted by Existere
What a concrete argument you have.

Why should the rules reinforce ignoring how a character behaves in 99% of their appearances?

Originally posted by kgkg
Ok that's cool but than debates become lets use this guys top feat and with that he speed blitz everyone.

But what I don't understand is why is this only relevant to speedsters.... Why don't we use it with other power set.

Say..
Character X turns charter Y to salt
Character X stops time etc etc

and we can't ignore 99% of comics...If a speedsters is constantly getting tagged than chances are he will get tagged in forum battle. CIS is still active.

We ignore PIS showings but we can't ignore everything and label it PIS when a majority of showing shows the opposite.

The only people ignoring it are people who aren't reading the rules properly. Full capacity applies to everyone that isn't Rhino or similarly disabled mentally.

Does full capacity replace CIS?

Originally posted by Mindset
Does full capacity replace CIS?

Originally posted by Mindset
Does full capacity replace CIS?

I was wondering that also.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The only people ignoring it are people who aren't reading the rules properly. Full capacity applies to everyone that isn't Rhino or similarly disabled mentally.

Fully Capacity, PIS and CIS should be scrapped as terms altogether, and simply create one rule that dictates that characters fight as depicted on average in the comics themselves.

Originally posted by Existere
Fully Capacity, PIS and CIS should be scrapped as terms altogether, and simply create one rule that dictates that characters fight as depicted on average in the comics themselves.

That would destroy a lot of bullshit arguments.

Let me chime in. You dont have to constantly be moving in incredible speeds to defend or react against super speed. Gog himself proves that. He is not going around rapestomping every superhero. He just perceives and reacts accordingly when the situation calls for it.

http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/galan007_pics/?action=view&current=gog_powers2.jpg

This is how a Thanos for example does not need to be constantly moving at super speed to react to an attack directed at him at incredible speeds. The same can be said to other Marvel characters who consistently defend against speedsters in the Marvel U like a Gladiator or a Sentry.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That would destroy a lot of bullshit arguments.

Originally posted by dmills
True, but on the flip side it hurts the non elites and/or characters with few appearances.

We just need one singular rule that states that characters fight as they fight in the comics. That we don't change characters or behavior to what we believe would make more sense, but simply leave the characters as is and actually discuss what would happen if they encountered each other and brawled.

Originally posted by Existere
Full capacity shouldn't override personality.

Fully Capacity, PIS and CIS should be scrapped as terms altogether, and simply create one rule that dictates that characters fight as depicted on average in the comics themselves.

I agree 100% with this...100%. It would be easier to debate in matches and we would have more matches that we can basically bring to the table without people fussing about who is faster and having to provide a thousand scans proving that character "a" could hit character "b".

This is ****ing rediculous. So speed would no longer be a factor? What utter bull****ery. You should have to prove you can actually hit someone with high combat speed. Ignoring it means we might as well scrap the full capacity rule. Making them fight as they do in comics means we might as well just become CBR or Herochat. 👇

Originally posted by Existere
It hurts who?

We just need one singular rule that states that characters fight as they fight in the comics. That we don't change characters or behavior to what we believe would make more sense, but simply leave the characters as is and actually discuss what would happen if they encountered each other and brawled.

Yep...

That is why it is almost next to impossible to find matches with Flash like characters... its kind of hard to put them against people when overall, people jus make up sh** about their abilities that they have never done on panel liiiiiike punch someone a trillion times in a second or hit someone a million times with white dwarf punches.

It doesn't stack up and it completely throws cis out of the window.

One needs to be completely rid of... either CIS or full compacity. They are colliding with each other and is contradicting if you ask me.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
This is ****ing rediculous. So speed would no longer be a factor? What utter bull****ery. You [b]should have to prove you can actually hit someone with high combat speed. Ignoring it means we might as well scrap the full capacity rule. Making them fight as they do in comics means we might as well just become CBR or Herochat. 👇 [/B]

So would you have a problem with us saying that Thor beat Prime 10/10 via bfring him right off the bat?

No, it's the butthurt marvel fans who are crying out for this because you have no counter for the speed issue.

Instead, you guys should accept that speed is not your advantage, or just go to herochat or CBR.

It's not making up things to say Flash can hit someone with white dwarf punches or a trillion times in a second, when it's perfectly within their power to do so. He's just that ****ing uber. dopedfu

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No, it's the butthurt marvel fans who are crying out for this because you have no counter for the speed issue.

Instead, you guys should accept that speed is not your advantage, or just go to herochat or CBR.

It's not making up things to say Flash can hit someone with white dwarf punches or a trillion times in a second, when it's perfectly within their power to do so. He's just that ****ing uber. dopedfu

😕

Killermovies should do random drug test before people are allowed to post.

So you are admitting that Thor wins 10/10 against Prime? Is this what you are saying?

What? 🤨 Why would Thor beat Prime even once?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
What? 🤨 Why would Thor beat Prime even once?

Read above.

I asked you would it be ok if someone gave Thor a 10/10 against Prime by beating him via bfring at the beginning of the match. We know that Thor has the capablities of bfring and he has shown that he can do it with just a wave of his hammer.

With that said, if the majority of peeps gave Thor a 10/10 against Prime via bfring, would you have a problem with that since it is a valuable tactic that Thor has done?

He'd have to hit him first. And believe it or not, BFRing Prime to another dimension might not work. He might just punch his way back.

If he could hit him with it, then ok, I'd give him a nod. But like I said, given who Prime is, I don't think he CAN keep him BFRed.