Originally posted by TricksterPriest
That's............dubious at best. Given that marvel kind of ignores speed, or at least doesn't have it the way DC does. 😂
also two pannels is vague at best, saying it took second or less seems unfair. That be more pannel then seconds.......
Originally posted by TricksterPriestHe is faster but guess what they fought and Superman got hit more than once. Thor has the reflexes necessary to attack Superman though Superman is far faster in every way.
Not at all. He simply is that much faster than Thor. And Thor has no feats to argue he can even touch Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He is faster but guess what they fought and Superman got hit more than once. Thor has the reflexes necessary to attack Superman though Superman is far faster in every way.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganThat's how Superman is normally portrayed. Even Superman fans agree he lets his opponents strike him so it's quite accurate. This whole Superman blitzes right after the bell sounds isn't like Superman at all and imo is only thread specific or situational say if lives are at stake.
They fought in a cross company match in which they need to make both characters look good. That is in no way shape or form accurate to how a forum fight would go. Superman has far better feats and fights far faster beingings.
We take personality into this, dum dum. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's how Superman is normally portrayed. Even Superman fans agree he lets his opponents strike him so it's quite accurate. This whole Superman blitzes right after the bell sounds isn't like Superman at all and imo is only thread specific or situational say if lives are at stake.We take personality into this, dum dum. 🙂
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I disagree. If you go by showing Superman is significantly faster then Thor. And could land far more then 3 or 4 hits. The only thing stoping him would be cis.
I agree... Supermans body movement is on another level than Thors but again, he isn't unhittable and Thor also have super speed which we can't ignore. I wouldn't go no further than 3 or 4 hits and that is even questionable against someone like Thor.
@Trickster...
There was no time given on how long it took Supes to build that city. It could have been seconds, min, or hours... who knows. Its also not good to rely so much on one high end feat because if that's the case, Gladiator is the fastest person on KMC if we actually base speed off of quotes. If we go by panels, well, he did fly across the universe in seconds which again would put his speed above anyone on KMC.
Now if we actually took cis into play and actually look at how he fight in comics and in a CIS environment then you could hold up an argument but debating in your type of fashion... Gladiator wins a 10/10 against anyone minus Galactus, since, well, again, he was CLOCKED at going 100 times the speed of light and his speed was still increasing
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganThen it's not superman it's his powers let loose against Thor but couldn't Thor's powers stamp the hammer on the ground and bfr him him ?
I already state that only thing stoping superman is cis. However this thread is about speed and if superman was willing he could complete blizt the shit out of Thor. There really nothing Thor could do about it.
I disagree I think Superman can initially blitz him but I think Thor has the reflexes to tag him or prevent the barrage from continuing.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then it's not superman it's his powers let loose against Thor but couldn't Thor's powers stamp the hammer on the ground and bfr him him ?I disagree I think Superman can initially blitz him but I think Thor has the reflexes to tag him or prevent the barrage from continuing.
Based on what? Thor has almost zero FTL feats. I highly doubt he could stop superman who not holding back and using his speed.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
It his power set true, but he also done this in comics. It is well within his abilities. The debate here is speed, he does posses the speed to blizt the shit out of thor.Based on what? Thor has almost zero FTL feats. I highly doubt he could stop superman who not holding back and using his speed.
So you would give a none holding back Supes a 10/10 against a none holding back Thor?
Originally posted by praying-mantis
not to be off subject but someone once told me that for 2 characters to
"fight" that is they each land blows id say since thors hammer is magical
and superman is hurt by magic and thor has many many strength
enchantments when he hit superman imo itd kill him and we know thor
does and will kill
Naah, a single attack from Thor isn't killing Supes... no matter how much magic he dips into it.
Originally posted by TazerAre you sure he doesn't have to just tap his hammer off the ground ?
Yo.IIRC Thor has to generate his portals by spinning Mjolnir........
Tazer
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganVery rarely and not right out of the gate so him pouring on speed from the start of the bell isn't likely at all to happen. That's the point. If you alter Superman's personality then you just have his powers unless the situation calls for it.
It his power set true, but he also done this in comics. It is well within his abilities. The debate here is speed, he does posses the speed to blizt the shit out of thor.Based on what? Thor has almost zero FTL feats. I highly doubt he could stop superman who not holding back and using his speed.
Yes, he does but Thor has the reflexes to counter.
Also how fast can superman blitz someone at ? What's his top confirmed speed ?
Originally posted by praying-mantisI don't get why people think that magic is the be all end all. for sure I think thor could beat and likely take a majority depending on the superman but magic is not a be all end all against supes. Yes it is a weakness and a vulnerability but it is by no means the instant KO many people seem to think it is.
not to be off subject but someone once told me that for 2 characters to
"fight" that is they each land blows id say since thors hammer is magical
and superman is hurt by magic and thor has many many strength
enchantments when he hit superman imo itd kill him and we know thor
does and will kill
Originally posted by quanchi112Hmm. I'm thinking back to the Bart vs Nova debate where someone said Bart would prevent Rich from flying, hit him with millions of infinite mass punches and steal all of his speed. Naturally, I said that it was ridiculous to assume he'd use such tactics in character on another hero.
That's how Superman is normally portrayed. Even Superman fans agree he lets his opponents strike him so it's quite accurate. This whole Superman blitzes right after the bell sounds isn't like Superman at all and imo is only thread specific or situational say if lives are at stake.We take personality into this, dum dum. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you sure he doesn't have to just tap his hammer off the ground ?Very rarely and not right out of the gate so him pouring on speed from the start of the bell isn't likely at all to happen. That's the point. If you alter Superman's personality then you just have his powers unless the situation calls for it.
Yes, he does but Thor has the reflexes to counter.
Also how fast can superman blitz someone at ? What's his top confirmed speed ?
Lets see some evidence then.
Originally posted by Uriel005
I don't get why people think that magic is the be all end all. for sure I think thor could beat and likely take a majority depending on the superman but magic is not a be all end all against supes. Yes it is a weakness and a vulnerability but it is by no means the instant KO many people seem to think it is.
superman is suseptable to magic like spiderman is to bullets but for as tough as superman is one good attack like one good bullet and hes done for i do not think magic is the end all but it is certainly an equalizer