Marvel speed vs DC speed

Originally posted by dmills
Hmm. I'm thinking back to the Bart vs Nova debate where someone said Bart would prevent Rich from flying, hit him with millions of infinite mass punches and steal all of his speed. Naturally, I said that it was ridiculous to assume he'd use such tactics in character on another hero.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
except this thread is about speed. It not about how a fight between the two would go. It about the speed between the two universe. I honestly dont understand why you keep trying to argue cis. It has nothing to do with this debate.

Lets see some evidence then.

I mean he's taken the surfer out before on his board with a hammer toss, withstood bursts of speed from Gladiator, etc.

There's no question Gladiator and Superman are leaps and bounds faster than Thor but we've seen Thor match up against both quite nicely on panel.

Just let it go this will slowly devolve the entire thread into a thor/superman debate.

Superman is far faster and his speed greatly outclasses Thor but ho wThor can compensate is another matter entirely.

Originally posted by quanchi112

You switched it into a debate between the two characters. I fully agree Superman has Thor in speed and then some. I simply said Thor has the reflexes hewn into him required to deal with insane speed.

I mean he's taken the surfer out before on his board with a hammer toss, withstood bursts of speed from Gladiator, etc.

There's no question Gladiator and Superman are leaps and bounds faster than Thor but we've seen Thor match up against both quite nicely on panel.

Just let it go this will slowly devolve the entire thread into a thor/superman debate.

Superman is far faster and his speed greatly outclasses Thor but ho wThor can compensate is another matter entirely.

Yes prove that thor has the reflexes. You keep saying this, but it not true. He does not have the reflexes to keep up with superman who utilizing his speed.

Throwing a hammer has nothing to do with reacting to light speed attacks. He reacted to gladiator moving at light speeds? prove it.

Which you started. We were argueing speed, and you kept bring up cis.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No i dident, you kept trying to make this into thor vs superman. Kept argueing cis. Which has nothing to do with this thread.

Yes prove that thor has the reflexes. You keep saying this, but it not true. He does not have the reflexes to keep up with superman who utilizing his speed.

Throwing a hammer has nothing to do with reacting to light speed attacks. He reacted to gladiator moving at light speeds? prove it.

Which you started. We were argueing speed, and you kept bring up cis.

did this turn into a sup/thor rant? i can squish that ez superman is worthy
so when thor tossed the hammer superman would keep it on his mantle
after he gave thor a proper beating
without needing the hammer sups can fly superfast baking thor with
heat vision avoiding him and hammer all day

Originally posted by quanchi112
Bump the appropriate thread for this. You keep on repeating yourself and never prove anything you continually ask for others to do so. In fact I will do it as I won't be letting you off the hook at all. Time to ante up, dum dum.

I have to becuase your so dam dense. If Thor has the feats bring them forth. But as it stands DC upper guys have significantly better speed then marvel characters like Thor.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
antee up what? we argueing speed. I dont care at all about superman vs Thor.

I have to becuase your so dam dense. If Thor has the feats bring them forth. But as it stands DC upper guys have significantly better speed then marvel characters like Thor.

You always get so riled up and cannot even articulate your points or even understand mine.

Superman is faster than Thor for the tenth time. I agree. Wow. Now if you want to continue the discussion of these two in the proper thread I am more than willing otherwise quit derailing this topic with this nonsense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have stated superman is far faster than Thor and you call someone else dense ?

You always get so riled up and cannot even articulate your points or even understand mine.

Superman is faster than Thor for the tenth time. I agree. Wow. Now if you want to continue the discussion of these two in the proper thread I am more than willing otherwise quit derailing this topic with this nonsense.

Dude I think ive debate you once. Your a clown. I dont care what you think about me. You are trying to argue that Thor has the reflexes but not the speed capable of dealing with light speed. Prove it.

I dont care, about dicussing there fight. Becuase it has nothing to do with my argument. I arguing that thor does not posses the speed level include reflexes of individuals like superman not even close.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
And yet you still think Thor has the reflexes capable.

Dude I think ive debate you once. Your a clown. I dont care what you think about me. You are trying to argue that Thor has the reflexes but not the speed capable of dealing with light speed. Prove it.

I dont care, about dicussing there fight. Becuase it has nothing to do with my argument. I arguing that thor does not posses the speed level include reflexes of individuals like superman not even close.

It's not relevant here. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I will continue this discussion in the thor/superman thread not here.

It's not relevant here. 🙂

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
except it is relevent here and not revent in superman vs thor. I not argueing who would win, nor cis. I am argueing that Thor does not posses the speed capable of dealing with light speed including his reflexes. That has nothing to do with How fight with CIS on what go against superman and Thor and frnakly I dont give a shit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I won't discuss who wins there either just compare thor's reflexes to superman's speed. It's not relative here as this topic only pertains to speed not reflexes to counter said speed.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
except reflexes are part of speed and are quite relevant to this discussion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree and will continue this discussion in thor/superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I will continue this discussion in the thor/superman thread not here.

It's not relevant here. 🙂

gracias.

i think the heart of why smurph and i--and i guess quan as well--seem to think the way we do is because it seems..... wrong to remove the character from what are comicbook CHARACTERS. you can argue that we're NOT just using powersets, that the characters must still fight in character, however, all 'heroes' under this format will essentially be the same. NONE will blitz-to-kill. so when we say 'fighting in character' what we're really saying is--no good guy will kill, but using all their powers in any other way is fine. in that sense, there is no real differnce in 'character' among any of the heroes. aa general rule that covers all heroes NOT killing at the outset would cover this as well as the 'fighting in character' fallacy. fighting in 'character' would take into account the vast wealth of evidence that supports how characters are usually depicted.

the high-end feats are really all that are used. high-balling and low-balling occur ALL the time. but.... if low-balling is pis, why not high-end feats? what makes them immune to the pis moniker? maybe a high-end feat is performed strictly for sake of plot. instead though, high-end feats are seen as 'full-capacity', and low-end feats are tossed out. not sure--never really understood--the disparity in relevence.

and quan, you're right--great to see a flame-free thread.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I dont care, were you discuss your nonsense, I not fallowing you.

So here's a helping hand.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t481668.html

DC has overall faster people, with faster combat speeds.

And they have Zoom and the flashes.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
DC has overall faster people, with faster combat speeds.

And they have Zoom and the flashes.

They have a whole small army of good flash's and bad flash's. And that's not counting the bricks and cosmic beings.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Judging from your grammar I bet you can't back back to the other thread.

So here's a helping hand.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t481668.html

Just so you understand. I NOT GOING TO DEBATE THOR VS SUPERMAN WITH YOU. I DONT CARE, YOU ARE ANNOYING AND A WASTE OF MINE AND EVERYONES TIME. GOT IT CHAMP?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
How nice, another ignorant fool, who believes that grammar equates to intelligences. How wonderful.

Just so you understand. I NOT GOING TO DEBATE THOR VS SUPERMAN WITH YOU. I DONT CARE, YOU ARE ANNOYING AND A WASTE OF MINE AND EVERYONES TIME. GOT IT CHAMP?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession accepted.

Now I understand why some many people dislike and make fun of you. Your just plain awful.