Hitman vs. Hit-girl

Started by Robtard14 pages
Originally posted by Lestov16

Hitgirl is clearly the better pistol marksman.

If he used less bullets to kill more opponents, how is she better? That 4-clips to kill 9 men doesn't speak well in marksmanship

Originally posted by Lestov16

Blade fight?

No contest here. Hit Man demolishes. She's good at taking out hookers and goons with her blades. He fights other super-assassins.

Originally posted by Robtard
If he used less bullets to kill more opponents, how is she better? That 4-clips to kill 9 men doesn't speak well in marksmanship

No contest here. Hit Man demolishes. She's good at taking out hookers and goons with her blades. He fights other super-assassins.

The fact that he killed them via ambush as compared to having 10 people simultaneously shooting at him doesn't exactly impress me. Neither does the fact that he had on full body armor

Originally posted by Lestov16
The fact that he killed them via ambush as compared to having 10 people simultaneously shooting at him doesn't exactly impress me. Neither does the fact that he had on full body armor

Look at that Hit Man clip you posted, not every kill is via "ambush" and there's scenes where he's in shoot-outs with people. He is an assassin though, so stalking/ambushing is his thing.

But we're talking about being a better marksman; 4 clips (that's like 36-40 bullets) to kill 9 men isn't good marksmanship. It seems when Hit-Girl doesn't have the luxury of her opponents being effectively blind or when she's under fire/stress, her aim suffers a lot.

Originally posted by Robtard
Look at that very clip you posted, not every kill is via "ambush" and there's scenes where he's in shoot-outs with people.

Do they show him avoiding gunfire while simultaneously making headshots? And I love how he had to wear armor, whereas she shot those dudes with not only no armor, but no cover

edit; and BTW, you want to talk about the stupidity of the shooters, let's talk about those guys in the elevator. Very elite to not notice the roof of their elevator wide open, now weren't they?

Maybe you should watch the clip you posted, the scene where he's in the house(or is it a bar), he's exchanging gunfire with multiple opponents and he's killing them fast enough he doesn't need to tilt his head a bit.

He didn't "have" to wear body-armor, he wore it as a disguise to infiltrate. Also, not sure why you're on this "body-armor" bit, Hit-Girl wears body-armor throughout the film. So if wearing body-armor means you suck, she's the worse of the two by your own account.

To your edit. He opened the roof after they were in there, another ambush. Not sure why they're stupid, they were outclassed, he's a super-assassin after all.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
hey RJ lets just completely ignore this 😊

those head tilts aren't shyt. she did it only what 3 times? not even consecutively 😐.

those goons were not marksmen. did anybody see the paper flying all over the place? they were hitting nothing but books.

47 actually has sense so he'll just wait for her to walk past him & shoot her azz. or they have a shoot out in which she'll lose.

because 1.she used over 4 clips to shot 9 guys (no aim) & she shot guys who were stumbling around in the dark
2. 47 has aim those goons didn't so she'll need to dodge more than just 1 HS at time just.

haermm Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. Whateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever you say 🙄

Originally posted by Lestov16
Do they show him avoiding gunfire while simultaneously making headshots? And I love how he had to wear armor, whereas she shot those dudes with not only no armor, but no cover

edit; and BTW, you want to talk about the stupidity of the shooters, let's talk about those guys in the elevator. Very elite to not notice the roof of their elevator wide open, now weren't they?

They know all of this, dude. They know HG rapes with pistols, they just don't wanna admit it.

They know she's faster. They know she's a better shot. They know she's a bullet/aim dodger. They know she's far more agile. And they know she has better pistol feats.

why exactly was this brought back up???

wasn't already a given that agent 47 wins?

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
why exactly was this brought back up???

wasn't already a given that agent 47 wins?

How? What has he done that shows that he is going tag an agile as shit target who is simultaneously shooting at him and avoiding his headshots?

Originally posted by Robtard
Maybe you should watch the clip you posted, the scene where he's in the house(or is it a bar), he's exchanging gunfire with multiple opponents and he's killing them fast enough he doesn't need to tilt his head a bit.

Hitgirl's feat was more impressive because she used handguns instead of more effective automatic weapons and grenades, and he had cover. she did a Pickett Charge and landed on top

and I love how you guys are acting like all she did was tilt her head. That bullet, no matter from who was shooting it,was fired about 6 feet from her and was on a direct collision course with her head and she consciously moved her head to avoid it. That is pure and utter bullet timing, and I'd love to hear anyone's explanation on how it's not.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Hitgirl's feat was more impressive because she used handguns instead of more effective automatic weapons and grenades, and he had cover. she did a Pickett Charge and landed on top

and I love how you guys are acting like all she did was tilt her head. That bullet, no matter from who was shooting it,was fired about 6 feet from her and was on a direct collision course with her head and she consciously moved her head to avoid it. That is pure and utter bullet timing, and I'd love to hear anyone's explanation on how it's not.

He was standing in the middle of the room for the most part. The shooters trying to kill him had cover.

That scenes been dissected numerous times in here, some believe it's greater than it was, some believe lesser than it was. She's good, no doubt.

But why are we ignoring her 30-40 bullets to kill 9 men and why are we now ignoring that she wears body-armor, when before Agent 47 wearing it once to infiltrate was someone a negative against him?

Originally posted by Robtard
why are we now ignoring that she wears body-armor, when before Agent 47 wearing it once to infiltrate was someone a negative against him?

because had on full body armor and she had a bullet-proof vest?

i'll discuss the rest later, but right now I must go to lil bro's graduation, so when I return (which should be 9:00 EST), I am really looking forward to debating this with you

Until then.......

💃

-He had full-body(was it full?) for one scene, then he lost all of it except the vest. He had no armor/vest for every other fight, iirc.

-Hit-Girl's costume consisted of a vest as standard.

So if wearing protective gear is a measure of being lesser now, she's the one not looking so hot; not him.

As far as the better marksman, she turns to jelly when she's under fire/stress. In cover of darkness, she popped fools no problem, put her in a pinch, she's averaging 4 handgun bullets per death, that's not great.

Cool, enjoy the event.

Originally posted by Robtard

As far as the better marksman, she turns to jelly when she's under fire/stress.

AAAAAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAAA yeah she really punked out in the hallway scene yeah? 🙄

In cover of darkness, she popped fools no problem, put her in a pinch, she's averaging 4 handgun bullets per death, that's not great.
Fail. When firing at targets her pistol marksmanship was better than 47's. (If you need video evidence of this, let me know.)

Thing is, when her targets took cover, she blasted away at what they were hiding behind. She did this knowing that she had more ammo to work with/attain. (If you need video evidence of this, let me know.)

She's faster. I can provide video evidence of this.

She's a better shot. I can provide video evidence of this.

She's a bullet/aim dodger. I can provide video evidence of this.

She's far more agile. I can provide video evidence of this.

She has better pistol feats. I can provide video evidence of this.

Fun fact: HM never, not once, displayed he has the speed to dodge her projectile weapons (knives, shurikens, etc). One throw and he's done.

Another fun fact? HM killed 47 people in his movie, HG 42. Thing is, he used sniper rifles and automatic weapons. HG used pistols and a shitload of blades.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Hitgirl's feat was more impressive because she used handguns instead of more effective automatic weapons and grenades, and he had cover. she did a Pickett Charge and landed on top
Mhm ✅

This in itself shows she rapes HM.

and I love how you guys are acting like all she did was tilt her head. That bullet, no matter from who was shooting it,was fired about 6 feet from her and was on a direct collision course with her head and she consciously moved her head to avoid it. That is pure and utter bullet timing, and I'd love to hear anyone's explanation on how it's not.
There were three of them ✅

Both points will fall upon deaf ears, bro.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
AAAAAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAAA yeah she really punked out in the hallway scene yeah? 🙄

Fail. When firing at targets her pistol marksmanship was better than 47's. (If you need video evidence of this, let me know.)

Thing is, when her targets took cover, she blasted away at what they were hiding behind. She did this knowing that she had more ammo to work with/attain. (If you need video evidence of this, let me know.)

She's faster. I can provide video evidence of this.

She's a better shot. I can provide video evidence of this.

She's a bullet/aim dodger. I can provide video evidence of this.

She's far more agile. I can provide video evidence of this.

She has better pistol feats. I can provide video evidence of this.

Fun fact: HM never, not once, displayed he has the speed to dodge her projectile weapons (knives, shurikens, etc). One throw and he's done.

Another fun fact? HM killed 47 people in his movie, HG 42. Thing is, he used sniper rifles and automatic weapons. HG used pistols and a shitload of blades.

Calm down, I didn't say she "punked out", but you could see her resolve tested and her aim suffered from it, ie "jelly". As noted and you'll ignore, 36-40 bullets for 9 men. She might as well been firing blind and chance would have killed those 9 with so many bullets.

This is why she needed 4 clips to kill 9 men? As noted and dodged.

Fun fact, Agent47 never needed to dodge, cos he kills his targets fast; usually with one bullet and he's the far superior stalker and tactician. All he has to do is stay calm (something he excels at) and wait for her to foolishly unload both her clips, which will be quick.

Originally posted by Robtard
Calm down, I didn't say she "punked out", but you could see her resolve tested and her aim suffered from it, ie "jelly". As noted and you'll ignore, 36-40 bullets for 9 men. She might as well been firing blind and chance would have killed those 9 with so many bullets.
She was running straight at them, bro. She was always within 5-6 feet of whoever was firing at her. She was dodging gunfire from 10 men and returning fire at the same time.

This is why she needed 4 clips to kill 9 men? As noted and dodged.
Lulz, nah, just covered that. Wanna talk about a dodge? You failed to address 90% of my post.

Fun fact, Agent47 never needed to dodge, cos he kills his targets fast; usually with one bullet and he's the far superior stalker/tactician.
Fun fact, he took cover because he is not as fast and agile as HG.

Stalker? Read the OP, man, there's no stalking here.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
She was running straight at them, bro. She was always within 5-6 feet of whoever was firing at her. She was dodging gunfire from 10 men and returning fire at the same time.

Lulz, nah, just covered that. Wanna talk about a dodge? You failed to address 90% of my post.

Fun fact, he took cover because he is not as fast and agile as HG.

Stalker? Read the OP, man, there's no stalking here.

And we're discussing her aim here, remember. Still about 40 bullets to kill 9 guys (or was it 10), either way, that's about 4 bullets to take down one target. Or about 25% accuracy when she's under stress.

No, it was not covered, it's been avoided over and over, her aim suffers greatly when the heat is on. 90% of your post was irrelevant.

At times he's taken cover, other times no. He usually kills too fast to need cover.

I did and why you avoided the "tactician" part of what I said. He can merely wait for her to unload 2 clips, as she's fond of doing.

Originally posted by Robtard
And we're discussing her aim here, remember. Still about 40 bullets to kill 9 guys (or was it 10), either way, that's about 4 bullets to take down one target. Or about 25% accuracy when she's under stress.
K, here we go. Observe:

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I count 20 bullets fired by HG. I count 13 kills by HG. That's 65% accuracy.

Add on the lobby scene where she fired 4 times, killing 3 bad guys, that's 24 shots, 17 kills. That's 68% accuracy.

No, it was not covered, it's been avoided over and over. 90% of your post was irrelevant.
I see. So the fact that she is faster, more agile, a better shot AND a bullet dodger is irrelevant?

Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. I smell butthurt.

At times he's taken cover, other times no. He usually kills too fast to need cover.
He's not near as fast as Mindy, dude. It's not even close. Prove it with a clip or concede.

I did and why you avoided the "tactician" part of what I said. He can merely wait for her to unload 2 clips, as she's fond of doing.
Or she can just run at him, round the corner, and when he fires, she dodges (which she is very fond of doing), and head shots him.

-Seems like another one of these cases where you see what you want to see. She unloads both her guns(2clips), re-loads and unloads again(2-clips), so depending whether her gun holds 9 or 10 bullets per clip, that's about 36-40 bullets.

-There where 9(maybe 10) guys total she killed in that scene. You've been told before, some of the kills are re-shown from a different angle; you're counting some kills twice. Ain't fanboyism grand?

So you "pwned" yourself again it seems.

She's a bit faster and more agile in that she can do flips. Not a better shot, she's a bullet waster, keep ignoring this. And moving out of the guns path is a great skill to have in a fight. But that's not winning it here against the likes of Agent 47, he's not some goon, hooker, druggie or pimp.

Prove that he kills his opponents quickly? Go look at the clip on the page before this. He usually uses one bullet to take down one target. He's efficient and keeps his cool.

He's got two guns he can (and does) fire simultaneously, so that 'head-tilt' maneuver is likely going to end her a ventilated cranium, moved out the one of one bullet and into the path of the other.