Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
So?Vader did not have eyes on at all...he had monitors on.
"Luke....just for once let me look on you with MY OWN eyes" not ring a bell?BEFORE he lifted them...proving my point.
Eye contact is not a factor.
If Vader feels HG's prescence shes screwed.In all three instances feeling them was involved.
Because of the way the force works.
Basic SW knowledge told to use throughout the films. "Feel with the Force, Luke."
Gee, a Jedi can feel others through the force? I didn't know that!!!!!
Question: Why Order 66? Why go through all that trouble? Why didn't Sidious just reach across the galaxy and force choke the Jedi one by one? Why didn't Vader do it? Why go through the trouble of obtaining all those Clones, wait for them to mature and be trained?
The purge would have been much simpler this way. If a Sith can crush windpipes instantly as you guys claim, it would have taken maybe an hour.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Gee, a Jedi can feel others through the force? I didn't know that!!!!!Question: Why Order 66? Why go through all that trouble? Why didn't Sidious just reach across the galaxy and force choke the Jedi one by one? Why didn't Vader do it? Why go through the trouble of obtaining all those Clones, wait for them to mature and be trained?
The purge would have been much simpler this way. If a Sith can crush windpipes instantly as you guys claim, it would have taken maybe an hour.
What does any of that have to do with dodging a Force-attack? Which is how this nonsense of yours started, your claiming that He/She could dodge GCV's force attacks. Focus on that, will ya.
But there's multiple instances when the Force is used as an extra sensory for the user and there wasn't a direct line of sight. Anakin sensing "everything" in the room next door. Vader sensing Luke; Luke sensing Vader. Luke using the Force to aim his shot in the DS, Luke blocking the practice shots while blinded etc.
The Clone wars cartoon series (currently on) expands on this even more.
Originally posted by RobtardJust answer the question?
What does any of that have to do with dodging a Force-attack? Which is how this nonsense of yours started, your claiming that He/She could dodge GCV's force attacks. Focus on that, will ya.But there's multiple instances when the Force is used as an extra sensory for the user and there wasn't a direct line of sight. Anakin sensing "everything" in the room next door. Vader sensing Luke; Luke sensing Vader. Luke using the Force to aim his shot in the DS, Luke blocking the practice shots while blinded etc.
The Clone wars cartoon series (currently on) expands on this even more.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Just answer the question?
Yet another question which is irrelevant to this thread.
HP can't dodge a Force-attack from GCV as if it were some bullet; there's nothing in the films to indicate that the Force could be dodged, the opposite actually. Accept it and move on. You're looking silly.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Honor? Lol at that, dude. Vader showed a lot of honor by killing younglings. Sidious showed a lot of honor when he ordered it.Obi Wan, from ANH: "He ceased being 'Anakin Skywalker' and became 'Darth Vader' ."
By your logic, Palpatine/Darth sidious had to keep dying then being reborn as the pther name everytime he spoke with a croaky voice over an intercom then went back out to be a Chancellor.... 🙄
Anakin and Vader are physically the same person, but until ROTJ, Anakin was dormant. Vader was in control. "Same person", as you are implying, means that both personas co-existed at once. I know it's EU, but look up Kyp Durron.
And....He knew where Ozzel was. Again: If Vader is pissed at some douche across the galaxy, but cannot A: See him, or B: Know his exact location, he cannot force choke him. He is never, not ever, shown doing this, nor is any force user. It's not like he can force choke some random dude in the Outer rims.
So? You could go under the name "King Isosceles the right", but you're still the same consistently-wrong RJ guy who has been typing here. 😛
Nope. Anakin was commanding starships, crushing rebellions etc.
There was never any multiple or disassociative personality issue shown with Vader.
No EU allowed. 🙂
A couldnt see Ozzel.
He could only see a screen showing an electronic display depicting Ozzel.
Thats equivalent to me looking at your photo and being able to force crush you regardless.
Vader feels prescences, then rapes the shit out of those he feels.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Gee, a Jedi can feel others through the force? I didn't know that!!!!!Question: Why Order 66? Why go through all that trouble? Why didn't Sidious just reach across the galaxy and force choke the Jedi one by one? Why didn't Vader do it? Why go through the trouble of obtaining all those Clones, wait for them to mature and be trained?
The purge would have been much simpler this way. If a Sith can crush windpipes instantly as you guys claim, it would have taken maybe an hour.
I think you need to watch ROTS, (Or any other Star Wars).
Vader was taking out the heads of the assembled federations, unions, etc
Palpatine himself after slaughtering 4 jedi, was too busy working the becoming emporer/republic restructuring thing whilst claiming to the victim.
The purge would have been more ****ed up that way: The cleanest way to do it was simultaneous strike.
Or the Jedi would all feel the attacks in the force and escape or warn others....
(Like Yoda felt/did only cause he was meditating)
And that'd mess up the whole "Jedi temple beacon" trap.
Palp's best plan of attack was the one that worked: Which is what he did. The jedi order fell.
Originally posted by RobtardDodge.
Yet another question which is irrelevant to this thread.HP can't dodge a Force-attack from GCV as if it were some bullet; there's nothing in the films to indicate that the Force could be dodged, the opposite actually. Accept it and move on. You're looking silly.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthSure.
So? You could go under the name "King Isosceles the right", but you're still the same consistently-wrong RJ guy who has been typing here. 😛
Nope. Anakin was commanding starships, crushing rebellions etc.As a Sith, he was Vader. As a Jedi, he was Anakin. There is no grey area. Shall I quote Obi Wan again?
There was never any multiple or disassociative personality issue shown with Vader.
A couldnt see Ozzel.He A: Knew right where Ozzel was, and B: Was quite familiar with Ozzel's force signature.
He could only see a screen showing an electronic display depicting Ozzel.Thats equivalent to me looking at your photo and being able to force crush you regardless.
Vader feels prescences, then rapes the shit out of those he feels.See above.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthI've watched SW many more times than you, Champ.
I think you need to watch ROTS, (Or any other Star Wars).
Vader was taking out the heads of the assembled federations, unions, etcPoint?Palpatine himself after slaughtering 4 jedi, was too busy working the becoming emporer/republic restructuring thing whilst claiming to the victim.
The purge would have been more ****ed up that way: The cleanest way to do it was simultaneous strike.Escape? How? Please share with the group.
Or the Jedi would all feel the attacks in the force and escape or warn others....
(Like Yoda felt/did only cause he was meditating)
The purge would have been much more easily executed my way. But my way was not possible. Tell me, IF Sidious chose to do it my way, was he capable?
And that'd mess up the whole "Jedi temple beacon" trap.Ahahahaha and what was the purpose of the trap, Champ?
Palp's best plan of attack was the one that worked: Which is what he did. The jedi order fell.
LOL So Ozzel has to have a force signature now....?
😂
LOL To at your assertion that you've watched them more than me.
A) You dont know how many times Ive seen them,
B) You seem to have absorbed nil knowledge for all your watching.
😂
regarding your questions, Susan: If you've had to ask, you'll never know.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
LOL So Ozzel has to have a force signature now....?
😂LOL To at your assertion that you've watched them more than me.
A) You dont know how many times Ive seen them,
B) You seem to have absorbed nil knowledge for all your watching.
😂regarding your questions, Susan: If you've had to ask, you'll never know.
"Presence in the force." Poor choice of words on my part.
You just can't answer a question, can you? Why can't you just answer the question/s I am asking head on instead of tap dancing?
A tip: I DO know. I wanna hear you say it.
Nope. When you are questioning such basic things as these, I really dont feel obliged to answer, as its a waste of time..
Next you'll be strawmanning asking me what the big grey metal ball was that was in ANH.
The only thing that matters is that when HP/HG is detected, he will know they are there and will kill them.
The only point that matters.
One more time:
Episode IV. Let's say at the very beginning, one of Vader's spies came to him with news that Obi Wan and Yoda were alive. The spy had no clue where they were, just proof of their existence. Now, could Vader have, right then, right there, have force choked them? Without seeing them? Without knowing where they were?
Either answer it head on or don't answer at all.
LOL So Ozzel has to have a force signature now....?
Considering the force is created from the organisms that exist in every living thing how can he not have a force signature?
That said, RJ is clearly talking out of his ass again. Yes clearly he knew right where he was down to the metre from thousands of lightyears distance. 🙄
Originally posted by NephthysK then:
RJ is clearly talking out of his ass again. Yes clearly he knew right where he was down to the metre from thousands of lightyears distance. 🙄
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
One more time:Episode IV. Let's say at the very beginning, one of Vader's spies came to him with news that Obi Wan and Yoda were alive. The spy had no clue where they were, just proof of their existence. Now, could Vader have, right then, right there, have force choked them? Without seeing them? Without knowing where they were?
Either answer it head on or don't answer at all.
Well?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
One more time:Episode IV. Let's say at the very beginning, one of Vader's spies came to him with news that Obi Wan and Yoda were alive. The spy had no clue where they were, just proof of their existence. Now, could Vader have, right then, right there, have force choked them? Without seeing them? Without knowing where they were?
Either answer it head on or don't answer at all.
If he searched for them ala ESB beginning, (Essentially Force-divining) and he could get to within choking range and kill them, were it not for his perchance for f**king around with lightsabre duals... going by screen feats.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
One more time:Episode IV. Let's say at the very beginning, one of Vader's spies came to him with news that Obi Wan and Yoda were alive. The spy had no clue where they were, just proof of their existence. Now, could Vader have, right then, right there, have force choked them? Without seeing them? Without knowing where they were?
Either answer it head on or don't answer at all.
That would depend entirely upon how close they were. As you see in ANH, Vader can feel Kenobi's presence unprompted just because the guy is close, and in ROTJ he feels Luke above Endor, again, merely from proximity. However, the universe is far too vast to feel and pinpoint one specific person (in the movies anyway, they do that shit all the time in the EU) across galactic distances.
Also remember that Jedi can blunt each others senses and stuff. See: the Luke vs Vader ROTJ fight.