Multiverse fight: Hit-Potter Vs Grammaton Vader

Started by Nephthys21 pages

Precog. He can react before they even move. A Jedi's reactions are beyond bullet-timing.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Precog. He can react before they even move. A Jedi's reactions are beyond bullet-timing.

A Jedi's precog reaction is very much tiered, depending on how powerful they are.

On top of that, even Jedi Council Masters can be overtaxed quite quickly by bullets.

The numbers worked out showing that only one or two hand guns is all it would take to overtax a Jedi's precog...and that's for a Jedi Council Master...much less the lower level Jedi.

That's the high-end.

Some people brought up points like how slowly the lightning traveled or how long it took for Palpitine to react to a force push. I consider those low-end feats: I wanted the fastest precog reaction times so I do not count those.

That isn't their reactions, thats just because in the movie the actors can't move fast enough (and for some insane reason George never had tehm utilise their super-speed outside of one scene 🙄 ) to get their saber in the way of several bullets in quick succession. Their reactions are still top tier.

Also as I said, Jedi can block each others precog, hence the Force push bit.

If Vader is force choking, Hit Potter hits him with a non verbal spell.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That isn't their reactions, thats just because in the movie the actors can't move fast enough (and for some insane reason George never had tehm utilise their super-speed outside of one scene 🙄 ) to get their saber in the way of several bullets in quick succession. Their reactions are still top tier.

Also as I said, Jedi can block each others precog, hence the Force push bit.

While I agree that George could have done much better with the Jedi's abiliies in the PT, we have what we have and cannot use something beyond what is in the films.

Additionally, there's a very specific reason I found and measured a scene that did not include another force user over-taxing a Jedi: it removes the technique I've seen used (which is baseless and has no place in the movies: battle precog is not far-seeing) by supporters of the force users and forces the point of a direct reaction/precog measure preventing any sort of skirting around the point of overtaxing.

Originally posted by dadudemon
A Jedi's precog reaction is very much tiered, depending on how powerful they are.

On top of that, even Jedi Council Masters can be overtaxed quite quickly by bullets.

Since Anakin was born from the force itself and no one else is, I'd say he gets his own teir.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Since Anakin was born from the force itself and no one else is, I'd say he gets his own teir.

Tell his missing biological legs and arms, burnt up lungs, and scarred body that it's in a tier of it's own. 🙂

Ha. They lack the comprehension to be jealous.

(Anakin's butt was toasted, so butthurt is still a literal possibility there.)

But it matters not: "Luminous beings are we" etc
And his limbs were clearly there in his force spirit form later on..
I bet kirlian photography tests on Vader's stumps would have been fascinating.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If Vader is force choking, Hit Potter hits him with a non verbal spell.
only to have his wand snatched via force

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Alderaan was lightyears away from Kenobi when he felt Alderaan destroyed.
Do you really think that your above post doesnt sound silly/gimpish?

Something to think about.

something else to think about..

Yoda was on kashyyk during order 66 and he felt jedi being killed

more awesomeness due to the power of the force

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If Vader is force choking, Hit Potter hits him with a non verbal spell.

nah , all in one motion GV takes wand then chokes Hit-Potter out

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
something else to think about..

Yoda was on kashyyk during order 66 and he felt jedi being killed

more awesomeness due to the power of the force

nah , all in one motion GV takes wand then chokes Hit-Potter out

Mhm, they felt that, no use denying it. How's this gonna help them in a fight? Feeling someone dying is not an offensive force attack.

How Vader gonna do that when HP apparates? Dooooooooooooh.

But it demonstrates the true range' of the force.
The grab would occur just before apparation takes place, of course, having anticipated when the apparation was to occur.

He'd laugh, complete in his victory, then go for space-donuts.

True range, yes. The force is everywhere in SWverse. But it can only used to a certain degree when it comes to attacking someone with it.

Force chokes cannot be done from across the galaxy. The force user must see his victim.

Luckily, galactic distance is not an issue here.
Weve already proved, with a little basic SW knowledge, that despite what you say, eye contact is not required also.

What's shown onscreen is that Vader must be looking at his victim, whether it be directly or through a video monitor.

Also, this is pre-suit Vader. Observe:

YouTube video

She was 5 feet away and he had eyes on. Can't go comparing ESB Vader to ROTS Vader.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ha. They lack the comprehension to be jealous.

😆

Honestly, I thought my reply was "Sadako" level whit. I was rather proud of myself. 😄

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
(Anakin's butt was toasted, so butthurt is still a literal possibility there.)

lol. I just had this conversation with my coworker. I said the same thing. But what happened to his cock and balls? They burn up, too?

Well if your nutsack was burned off in such fashion, I'd predict three things:

1) You'd definitely turn to the darkside through anger.

2) You'd probably need a speech processor to make you sound like James Earl Jones, due to your new lowest/manliest speaking pitch being rankable along Meatwad from ATHF.

3) At least it'd make being in a permanent armoured suit a lot less of a problem, with no piss breaks, sexy encounters, or random "shaking hands with the wookie" to do anymore.

At least your cock and balls'd still be there sorta...... judging by Anakin force ghost's appearance.
"Luminous Joysticks/beanbag's have we" etc

Ergo: That suit was haunted by The ghost of Anakin's departed ballbag. 😖

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What's shown onscreen is that Vader must be looking at his victim, whether it be directly or through a video monitor.

Also, this is pre-suit Vader. Observe:

YouTube video

She was 5 feet away and he had eyes on. Can't go comparing ESB Vader to ROTS Vader.

Whats shown on screen is Vader looking.

Not that he HAS to be looking. 🙂

You clearly havent seen any of Luke's training or force usage or the fact that Suited Vader only ever saw computer readouts in side his helmet....therefore line of sight was not an issue.

Please feel free to stop embarrassing yourself at any time with assertions like that, and also to change your screenname to something more apt like "Wizard nosher" or "Bandwagon boy". 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Whats shown on screen is Vader looking.

Not that he HAS to be looking. 🙂

You clearly havent seen any of Luke's training or force usage or the fact that Suited Vader only ever saw computer readouts in side his helmet....therefore line of sight was not an issue.

Please feel free to stop embarrassing yourself at any time with assertions like that, and also to change your screenname to something more apt like "Wizard nosher" or "Bandwagon boy". 🙂

Nice try, but no. Sith and Jedi get more powerful as they age, Vader was more powerful in ESB when he choked Ozzel.

His best Pre-suit choke feat is from 5 feet away with eyes on.

Accept it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nice try, but no. Sith and Jedi get more powerful as they age, Vader was more powerful in ESB when he choked Ozzel..

Get more powerful as they age?!

new one to me i thought it had more to do with the training 😬