Originally posted by truejedi
exactly.Doesn't the DE comic say something like "the most powerful Sith who ever lived?" about sidious?
I honestly don't remember any such line. The closest I remember is Sidious indicating a man who had Plagues' knowledge would be the most powerful and immortal in the RotS novelization.
There's some excerpts from the Wiki. I only included those with references noted at the bottom:
In Star Wars fiction, Palpatine is a manipulative politician, a ruthless emperor, and an evil Sith Lord. The Star Wars Databank describes him as "the supreme ruler of the most powerful tyrannical regime the galaxy had ever witnessed" and Stephen J. Sansweet's Star Wars Encyclopedia calls him "evil incarnate."
And...
The apprentice of Darth Plagueis, Palpatine is "the most powerful practitioner of the Sith ways in modern times."
And also...
Darth Sidious was the most powerful Dark Lord of the Sith in the history of the Sith Order—something he himself firmly believed and he was the only Sith Lord in a thousand years to achieve the ultimate goal of the Sith: to eradicate the Jedi Order and bring the galaxy under the rule of the Sith.
Nothing definitive besides those that I could find, and I can't find the actual canon quote to support this last one.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
The apprentice of Darth Plagueis, Palpatine is "the most powerful practitioner of the Sith ways [b]in modern times."And also...
Darth Sidious was the most powerful Dark Lord of the Sith in the history of the Sith Order—something he himself firmly believed and he was the only Sith Lord in a thousand years to achieve the ultimate goal of the Sith: to eradicate the Jedi Order and bring the galaxy under the rule of the Sith.
Nothing definitive besides those that I could find, and I can't find the actual canon quote to support this last one. [/B]
Hm, seems like the two quotes contradict each other.
And at the risk of sounding like one of those Debators that challenges something that probably carries already obvious meaning:
Darth Sidious was the most powerful Dark Lord of the Sith in the history of the Sith Order
Could that indicate political power or actual personal power in combat?
That's what's not entirely clear. Instances where Sidious is claimed to be most powerful always march right into the fruits of his scheming. No one ever posts "Sidious was most powerful because he was undefeated in combat" or "He knew every single Sith sorcery ritual ever". The big point that he's the most powerful practitioner in modern times is really telling -- there's barely any Sith to compete against.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
That's what's not entirely clear. Instances where Sidious is claimed to be most powerful always march right into the fruits of his scheming. No one ever posts "Sidious was most powerful because he was undefeated in combat" or "He knew every single Sith sorcery ritual ever". The big point that he's the most powerful practitioner in modern times is really telling -- there's barely any Sith to compete against.
Hm. Astute points.
Originally posted by NowYouRemember
😛I can see Traya perhaps beating either of them in one on one combat.
Together they'd own her, and if it were DE Sids, she wouldn't have much of a chance.
Now if this were NIHILUS on the other hand... 😛
"It is a technique that is almost as old as the Sith themselves…it is a means of severing connections between life, the Force, and feeding upon the death it causes. It cannot be taught…it can only be gained through instinct, through experiencing its effects, first-hand."
―Kreia
How often has Yoda been Force drained, I wonder? I might argue that Sidious could have some knowledge of it, though could he defend or not is questionable. Kreia herself taught Nihilus how to refine it and he overpowered her with it, so knowledge itself is not as crucial as raw power.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
"It is a technique that is almost as old as the Sith themselves…it is a means of severing connections between life, the Force, and feeding upon the death it causes. It cannot be taught…it can only be gained through instinct, through experiencing its effects, first-hand."
―KreiaHow often has Yoda been Force drained, I wonder? I might argue that Sidious could have some knowledge of it, though could he defend or not is questionable. Kreia herself taught Nihilus how to refine it and he overpowered her with it, so knowledge itself is not as crucial as raw power.
I'm guessing if he underestimated Kreia and took a blast of Drain the same way he took a blast of Sid's lightning initially, then he'd pretty much be dead as a doorknob.
And from what we've seen lately, after looking into things, is that the Force Drain that Nihilus and Kreia use might be unblockable - except for another Force Wound.
But it'll take some time to reach any kind of confirmation.
If it is unblockable and insta-kill, I don't know what, if anything, Sid's could do to win the duel.
Originally posted by NowYouRemember
I'm guessing if he underestimated Kreia and took a blast of Drain the same way he took a blast of Sid's lightning initially, then he'd pretty much be dead as a doorknob.And from what we've seen lately, after looking into things, is that the Force Drain that Nihilus and Kreia use might be unblockable - except for another Force Wound.
But it'll take some time to reach any kind of confirmation.
If it is unblockable and insta-kill, I don't know what, if anything, Sid's could do to win the duel.
Shhhh, don't start talking like that around here. They'll inform on you!
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Originally posted by Stealth Moose
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Awesome. 😆
