Jin and Kazuya Vs Ryu and Akuma Street fighter Versus Tekken

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Darkstorm Zero Master of all Decepticons
Originally posted by crimson_2010
Darkstorm : Bloody hell!! I'm tired of your childish game, i'll just stop here cause we can't comprenhend each other and you're simply a ignorant denial person. Just grow the **** up
Like someone says :"the sage embraces the silence, the fool can be heard for miles".
Oh and i've a life behind my computer unlike others, so don't be surprised.

I'm childish? Explain that, right now.

I denied nothing you two faced troll. I asked a F*@king question and you both jumped on the bandwagon and tried to railroad the thread. And then you spread lies and false accusations in an attempt to avoid answering.

That just about tears it, your being reported for flaming and trolling.

SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Probably because nobody else except for you thinks it's nonsense
That's only possible if they haven't read your posts.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

No Sam, What I did was definitively prove that A, the shit you tried to admit as evidence flies in the face of known plot, and your doing it again here. The technique stuff was simply icing on the cake. The Prologue in question is describing Devil Within itself, how does it's existence justify it's own canonicity?
You doubting Jin's motives and the gameplay attack actually WERE your only reasons. And while that counts as "definite proofs" in your book (seeing how you pull the exact same bullcrap in this debate) the rest of us see it for what it is - your assumptions that arent backed up by anything. While I was basing my opinion on a prologue from the GAME that clearly tied the events of DW with the main storyline. But even that wasnt good enough for you, DZ. You'd rather take your own beliefes over a direct statement from the game.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

A: It's not my opinion.... I just bloody well said that thats Tekken 6 plot you liar.
Great. Please point me exactly where does it say in the plot that "Jin avoided any direct confrontation with Kazuya because otherwise it’d totally ruin all his plans". But this time actually show me where does it say THAT, and not your so called "logical chain" you pull out of your ass to suit your argument.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

B: Jin BROADCAST the announcement GLOBALLY directly in response to the bounty. Your ignorance is blindingly obvious... Besides, Jin would be the one needing to take time to write the letters if that where the case, not Kazuya. Oh, and the fact that he has ownership of frigging labs and office buildings means he could mass print the letters, he certainly didn't need to sit at a desk and personally handwrite any invitations. Your being retarded Sam.
Are you even listening to yourself? He has labs so he MIGHT have printed etc etc? And going by that you actually claim that there was DEFINITELY no time for the fight to happen? Seriously? Lets forget for a second that first they announce the tournament, send invitations, fighters recieve them, takes time for some of them to even hear about the tournament and then they come from all over the world by plains, cars, maybe walk even. Lets forget about all that. There'd STILL be gazillion possible ways for the fight and chase to happen, yet you say it as if your doubts make it completely impossible. I cant tell if you actually are so full of yourself or just messing around. The worst part - you present these doubts of yours as "definite proofs".

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
First they announce the tournament, THEN they send invitations.
Yeah, exactly. And there's absolutely no way in hell the fight between Jin and Kazuya could've happened while they were arranging the tournament, sending invitations, waiting for the fighters to receive them, waiting for the fighters to arrive etc etc no way in hell, right? Seriously, DZ just stop.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

and C: Even if he did have the time, you never answered any point I raised above before you went on your break, you ignoring those means your simply trolling on purpose, and thusly breaking the rules, again.
Never broke the rules and I never troll. Maybe you just didnt get your point across too well, because honestly, so far I only got that you doubt Jin's reasons and you doubt if they had the time. Which again is your opinion to which you're entitled. But not a good enough reason for the rest of us. Your only other point was asking for a direct statement from namco, that says "Yes, its canon". Because we all know that every time someone makes a video for a game they hold a press conference and say this.
Head of namco: Ladies, gentlement, Darkstorm Zero. I gathered you all hear to make a very important announcement. That video we released a few days ago is indeed canon. You know just in case some of you didnt get that already, seeing how its clearly connected to the events of the tekken 6 storyline..
And nothing short of that would convince you that its canon. Yeah, that part of your post I didnt respond to and frankly not going to. Because its not just silly, its retarded.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Copout if there ever was one. Answer my points above or concede.
Concede? You say it like its possible for me to lose this debate. Im not arguing with you if it's canon. Im trying to get you to realise how silly the points you bring are.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

No dude, it's called logic. Your entire premise hinges on the fact that Jin would suddenly go off in a tirade and try to end everything he fought for since Tekken 5, simply because you want 1 little feat to be admissable as evidence.
Noooo, it is called imagination. Because if I were to use my imagination the same way you use yours i could say "Maybe Jin got bored and decided to throwdown" or "Jin got pissed at Kazuya for coming after him and decided to beat the crap outta him and then just leave so it in no way would've ruined his big plan for a prolonged war". See, that's how your so called "logic" works. Unlike you I do not do that because I dont know why he went there. But I DO know that there could be gazillion reasons for him to do that, so im fine with it happening. While you choose to completely excluse the possibiity of it happening because YOU THINK it was a wrong thing do. The level of arrogance ive never seen before... Oh and dont even bring up the feat, Jin and Kazuya's got plenty to use already, so for me one more, one less doesnt matter. But I am pretty sure you only argue because the very idea of the feat being canon is a pain in you ass. And in attempt to prove that its not canon you're willing to come up with any nonsense like the points you've been bringing this whole time.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Your assumption that the intro video is also 100% accurate to canon storyline is a much more glowing representation of spindoctor tactics and fanfic writing. I don't support a blatantly obvious self contradiction like you do. It was not my oppinion that Jin started a war, it's not my oppinion that he needed to prolong the war to expose Azazel, and it is not my oppinion that he needs Kazuya [b]Alive to do this. What my oppinion is, is that that video contradicts these facts, and that oppinion is backed by proof, thusly, it is no longer an oppinion, but a fact.
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I was wrong before. You'd make a bad fanfic writer. Because it takes some level of understanding of the source material while you it seems just randomly bring up facts from the game thinking is somehow backs up your false opinion and assumptions. You see, Jin starting a war - fact. The idea that Jin throwing down with Kazuya or being chased throughout the city will (in your opinion) "DEFINITELY" ruin his plans and so it's a "definite proof" that the whole thing could not possibly happen - your assumption and total bullcrap. Again, could be 10000000 thousand reasons for it to happen and 10000000 thousand scenarios in which this chase and this fight wont interfere in Jin's plans and Mr. Darkstorm Zero of the KMC games vs forum doubting that doesnt make it any less possible.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Thus, Your oppinion = the video portrays canon feat.

Whereas My fact = the feat displayed in the video did not happen canonically, and thus cannot be used as representation of the feat therein.

Fact>oppinion, therefor, you have lost this point.


Cute. Now you’re gonna pretend that the game backs up your conclusions. You actually did name few facts - about the prolonged war and Azazel. And I never argued those because I value facts. I only argued that other part of your posts, the one you tried to pass as a fact when it's actually your twisted opinion. And the part i was actually arguing against i already proved to be beyond ridiculous.
So far we've got your baselss conclusions VS me pointing out that this video, that is developed by namco and released by namco - is definitely connected to the Tekken 6 main storyline which is clear because the envents shown in the video were described in the main storyline ie bounty on Jin's head and the war. So the feat is very much usable. With the arguments you bring, you've lost this debate before we even started, DZ.

Darkstorm Zero Master of all Decepticons
Originally posted by SamZED
That's only possible if they haven't read your posts.

Only in your limited imagination kid.

Originally posted by SamZED
You doubting Jin's motives and the gameplay attack actually WERE your only reasons. And while that counts as "definite proofs" in your book (seeing how you pull the exact same bullcrap in this debate) the rest of us see it for what it is - your assumptions that arent backed up by anything. While I was basing my opinion on a prologue from the GAME that [b]clearly tied the events of DW with the main storyline. But even that wasnt good enough for you, DZ. You'd rather take your own beliefes over a direct statement from the game.[/B]

Incorrect. I doubted it's place due to.... again, known plot. You couldn't reconcile the differences, thus your endless tirade to try and get me to back off AGAIN backfired spectacularly.

Who is the "rest of us" praytell? You, crimson (Who shares the boat of blatant trolling and denial syndrome) and a banned member wou couldn't pull a fact if his life depended on it? You need glasses, because NOBODY else agrees with you, and you know what? it wouldn't matter if they did or not, Ad Populem is not a substitute for being correct you facist.

No, you solely relied on DWs own prologue, it's existence does not justify it's own canonicity. I guess TEKKEN Force and Tekken Bowling and even Tekken Ball are also canon according to your schewed version of events then. Have fun.

Originally posted by SamZED
Great. Please point me exactly where does it say in the plot that "Jin avoided any direct confrontation with Kazuya because otherwise it’d totally ruin all his plans". But this time actually show me where does it say THAT, and not your so called "logical chain" you pull out of your ass to suit your argument.

Uh, Jin and Kazuya's prologue, and the Campaign modes dialogue. Specifically Jin's spech after you defeat him.

Originally posted by SamZED
Are you even listening to yourself? He has labs so he MIGHT have printed etc etc? And going by that you actually claim that there was DEFINITELY no time for the fight to happen? Seriously? Lets forget for a second that first they announce the tournament, send invitations, fighters recieve them, takes time for some of them to even hear about the tournament and then they come from all over the world by plains, cars, maybe walk even. Lets forget about all that. There'd STILL be gazillion possible ways for the fight and chase to happen, yet you say it as if your [b]doubts make it completely impossible. I cant tell if you actually are so full of yourself or just messing around. The worst part - you present these doubts of yours as "definite proofs".[/B]

Do you even try to comprehend the medium for which you debate Sam? All of this basically amounts to you drooling all over your keyboard. Why should I forget the fact that they sent the announcement first, because that is what happened. Secondly you STILL have refused to answer any point I raised. Concession accepted. My point stands.

Originally posted by SamZED
Yeah, exactly. And there's absolutely no way in hell the fight between Jin and Kazuya could've happened while they were arranging the tournament, sending invitations, waiting for the fighters to receive them, waiting for the fighters to arrive etc etc no way in hell, right? Seriously, DZ just stop.

No Sam, you stop. Concede that you cannot answer my two raised points, or be reported.

Originally posted by SamZED
Never broke the rules and I never troll. Maybe you just didnt get your point across too well, because honestly, so far I only got that you doubt Jin's reasons and you doubt if they had the time. Which again is your opinion to which you're entitled. But not a good enough reason for the rest of us. Your only other point was asking for a direct statement from namco, that says "Yes, its canon". Because we all know that every time someone makes a video for a game they hold a press conference and say this.
Head of namco: Ladies, gentlement, Darkstorm Zero. I gathered you all hear to make a very important announcement. That video we released a few days ago is indeed canon. You know just in case some of you didnt get that already, seeing how its clearly connected to the events of the tekken 6 storyline..
And nothing short of that would convince you that its canon. Yeah, that part of your post I didnt respond to and frankly not going to. Because its not just silly, its retarded.

Bullshit, trolling is exactly what you are doing now, and by doing so, you are also breaking forum rules.

Here, I will repost them again because you fail to read:

#1: Prove that the announcement of the tournament was not immediate as was said during both Kazuya and Jin's prologues.

#2: If Jin is aware that there is a price on his head, and made the announcement based on that fact, then why oh why did he charge out on his own to G-Tek, nearly get charblasted by rocket artillery, then charge up the tower despite all his plans to the contrary to awaken Azazel... This point is actually VERY IMPORTANT. he stated as such during the story mode. Why would he risk getting killed, or killing Kazuya for that matter before Azazel's resurrection? He had been aware of Azazel ever since Tekken 5, so any excuse you could conjure would defy this fact, as in Jin's entire reason for starting the war would be completely null and void by this one action.

There. There is no excuse for ignoring this Sam, this is your last chance before I declare a concession accepted and you are left holding whats left of your E-Penis.

Originally posted by SamZED
Concede? You say it like its possible for me to lose this debate. Im not arguing with you if it's canon. Im trying to get you to realise how silly the points you bring are.

Trolling on purpose then? Even though what I raised was perfectly legal? And is 100% correct?

You are a sad sorry excuse for a debater

Originally posted by SamZED
Noooo, it is called imagination. Because if I were to use my imagination the same way you use yours i could say "Maybe Jin got bored and decided to throwdown" or "Jin got pissed at Kazuya for coming after him and decided to beat the crap outta him and then just leave so it in no way would've ruined his big plan for a prolonged war". See, that's how your so called "logic" works. Unlike you I do not do that because I dont know why he went there. But I DO know that there could be gazillion reasons for him to do that, so im fine with it happening. While you choose to completely excluse the possibiity of it happening because YOU THINK it was a wrong thing do. The level of arrogance ive never seen before... Oh and dont even bring up the feat, Jin and Kazuya's got plenty to use already, so for me one more, one less doesnt matter. But I am pretty sure you only argue because the very idea of the feat being canon is a pain in you ass. And in attempt to prove that its not canon you're willing to come up with any nonsense like the points you've been bringing this whole time.

Right, because Jin doesn;t have a character storyline thats well established, right? GTFO!

All of which is speculatory entirely Sam, at least I have the storyline backing me up.

Your acting retarded again by accusing me of using an oppinion as fact, even though Jin HIMSELF stated what he did in Campaign mode. Campaign mode trumps intro cinema in terms of canonicity sam, learn this, realise this, and stop posting bigoted bullshit.

Hah! YOUR the one relies on a poster who has even more aschewed logic than you who posted the video you liar.

Darkstorm Zero Master of all Decepticons
Originally posted by SamZED
I was wrong before. You'd make a bad fanfic writer. Because it takes some level of understanding of the source material while you it seems just randomly bring up facts from the game thinking is somehow backs up your false opinion and assumptions. You see, Jin starting a war - fact. The idea that Jin throwing down with Kazuya or being chased throughout the city will (in your opinion) "DEFINITELY" ruin his plans and so it's a "definite proof" that the whole thing could not possibly happen - your assumption and total bullcrap. Again, could be 10000000 thousand reasons for it to happen and 10000000 thousand scenarios in which this chase and this fight wont interfere in Jin's plans and Mr. Darkstorm Zero of the KMC games vs forum doubting that doesnt make it any less possible.

Are you telling me that Jin wasn't going for a killshot at Kazuya? Are you so dense as to even attempt to call what I say "Oppinion" and yet still spount off complete lies, contradictions and oppinionated crap? Go away Sam, you are entirely no longer credible in this or any debate.

Originally posted by SamZED
Cute. Now you’re gonna pretend that the game backs up your conclusions. You actually did name few facts - about the prolonged war and Azazel. And I never argued those because I value facts. I only argued that other part of your posts, the one you tried to pass as a fact when it's actually your twisted opinion. And the part i was actually arguing against i already proved to be beyond ridiculous.
So far we've got your baselss conclusions VS me pointing out that this video, that is developed by namco and released by namco - is definitely connected to the Tekken 6 main storyline which is clear because the envents shown in the video were described in the main storyline ie bounty on Jin's head and the war. So the feat is very much usable. With the arguments you bring, you've lost this debate before we even started, DZ.

Pretending alludes to me not presenting truth. This is a false assumption on your part. If you value facts sam, then reconcile the differences accurately as I did. Both sets of events cannot be official at the same time if they contradict eachother. I did pass a fact Sam, the facts are that Jin, who commands Mishima Zaibatsu and it's military power in the Tekken Force, suddenly galivanting off on his own, to face G-Tek military solo, charge up that glass tower, and tackle Kazuya and a few armed guards with full intent to kill. This however contradicts EVERYTHING he had done since Tekken 5 and everything else since. His entire reason for starting a war was not nessisarily to clash with Kazuya, but to draw out Azazel. To do this he needed Kazuya ALIVE and strong enough to fight and command G-Tek's military. You stupidly beleive the intro over the plot and you have the audacity to claim I am making assumption? AND then you say that it doesn't contradict because it's war? Now your trying to claim victory in this debate? Your logic is so aschewed I have to assume your in some kind of mental institution that allows internet access...

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SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Only in your limited imagination kid.
Well, you've got plenty of imagination for both of us clearly. All the stories you come up with...

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Incorrect. I doubted it's place due to.... again, known plot. You couldn't reconcile the differences, thus your endless tirade to try and get me to back off AGAIN backfired spectacularly.
... what now? The known plot was well connected to the events of the game, thanks to the prologue. It doesnt matter it's DW's prologue as long as there are refeences to the events of the main storyline. And in this case they not only reference the storyline, they say exactyly when the events took place. All you got was a "wrong move". 👆

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Who is the "rest of us" praytell? You, crimson (Who shares the boat of blatant trolling and denial syndrome) and a banned member wou couldn't pull a fact if his life depended on it? You need glasses, because NOBODY else agrees with you, and you know what? it wouldn't matter if they did or not, Ad Populem is not a substitute for being correct you facist.
Cool, now you're changing the subject and calling me names. First sign of desperation when you realize how ridiculous your so called argument are.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

No, you solely relied on DWs own prologue, it's existence does not justify it's own canonicity. I guess TEKKEN Force and Tekken Bowling and even Tekken Ball are also canon according to your schewed version of events then. Have fun.
Tekken prologue that connected the story of DW to the CANON events of the TEKKEN STORY. But you're to dense to even understand that. And changing subject again, tekken ball had nothing to do with any story, while DW was clearly said to take place after the canon events shown in tekken 5 and just because its DW's prologue that doesnt make it any less true. But good try.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Uh, Jin and Kazuya's prologue, and the Campaign modes dialogue. Specifically Jin's spech after you defeat him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTEMPZnbFaU Kazuya's prologue. Nothing. Couldnt find the rest in the net but nowhere does it say anythig close to that. So fail again. Let me guess, now you're gonna point me at some part of the video and come up with more of your "logical" conclusions calling them a definite proof.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Do you even try to comprehend the medium for which you debate Sam? All of this basically amounts to you drooling all over your keyboard. Why should I forget the fact that they sent the announcement first, because that is what happened. Secondly you STILL have refused to answer any point I raised. Concession accepted. My point stands.
Your point fails so bad you're even trying to avoid openly discussing it. Think im making myself pretty clear here. One of your points was - there was no time. And since you can't possibly know that, you just choose to assume so and act as if its a fact.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

No Sam, you stop. Concede that you cannot answer my two raised points, or be reported.
Go ahead. Didnt do anything wrong. You're the one calling me a nazi and a retard. Id love to answer your points, but you're not givving any. The two assumptions you've made I already answered. There was plenty of time for the fight to happen and there could be thousands of scenarios where Jin goes and beats Kazuya up without ruining his big plan in the process. So you're just wrong, feel free to admit it any time you want.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Bullshit, trolling is exactly what you are doing now, and by doing so, you are also breaking forum rules.
Im only explaining to you why you're wrong, its not trolling. Insulting members, that is against rules.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Here, I will repost them again because you fail to read:
face meet palm. Those are the points I "ignored"? This whole time all ive been doing is explaining why those "points" of yours have nothing to do with anything and in no way prove that the video isnt canon. So it is you who failed to read my response. But let me try again.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
#1: Prove that the announcement of the tournament was not immediate as was said during both Kazuya and Jin's prologues.
The announcement was immediate. I NEVER argued that it was announced immediately. I called BS on your assumption that it somehow proves that there was no time for Jin and Kazuya to fight. Because as I already said, there was plenty of time for it to happen while they were sending invitations, arranging the tournament and waiting for the fighters to arrive. Could take days, weeks. Heck one day is all the time they needed for the chase and the fight to happen. So, yes this point I disproved a long time ago. Done. Next.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

#2: If Jin is aware that there is a price on his head, and made the announcement based on that fact, then why oh why did he charge out on his own to G-Tek, nearly get charblasted by rocket artillery, then charge up the tower despite all his plans to the contrary to awaken Azazel... This point is actually VERY IMPORTANT. he stated as such during the story mode. Why would he risk getting killed, or killing Kazuya for that matter before Azazel's resurrection? He had been aware of Azazel ever since Tekken 5, so any excuse you could conjure would defy this fact, as in Jin's entire reason for starting the war would be completely null and void by this one action. [/B]
That point ive also addressed. That's the thing, its NOT important because its - you (an ordinary fan) questioning Jin's (a videogame character) motives and doubting if he did the right thing. "Why oh why" Who gives a crap if you do not think it was the right thing to do? Why was he riding a bike? We can only speculate, the point is - he DID and obviously had his own reasons. It in NO WAY controdicts the storyline. And you not knowing Jin's reasons for riding a bike or disagreeing with him doesnt make a difference and in NO way proves that the video isnt canon.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

There. There is no excuse for ignoring this Sam, this is your last chance before I declare a concession accepted and you are left holding whats left of your E-Penis.
Whatever makes you better sleep at night, DZ. You've made several points, all of them come down to you doubting Jin's motives. And as I already told you, that is not a good enough reason to claim that the video isnt canon. While the bounty and the war being shown in the video is a pretty good reason to believe it is.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Trolling on purpose then? Even though what I raised was perfectly legal? And is 100% correct?

You are a sad sorry excuse for a debater

Because I am the one who label a video "non-canon" based on my own judgment of what a videogame characters in my opinion should do? You should open a school, share your debating skills with people. Gonna be hillarious.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Right, because Jin doesn;t have a character storyline thats well established, right? GTFO!
Yes he does. And NOTHING in that story prevents him from riding a frikkin bike or having in a fights.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

All of which is speculatory entirely Sam, at least I have the storyline backing me up.
You dont. I only speculated to give you a taste of your own medicine. That's what you've been doing this whole time. Ive got a video that's clearly connected to the main storyline.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Your acting retarded again by accusing me of using an oppinion as fact, even though Jin HIMSELF stated what he did in Campaign mode. Campaign mode trumps intro cinema in terms of canonicity sam, learn this, realise this, and stop posting bigoted bullshit.
And he stated EVERYTHING he's done since Tekken 5? Every little detail? The intro mentions that there's a war and a bounty and a tournament, while THE VIDEO shows some particular events, and it is made clear that these events are connected to the main story, it shows the war and Jin being hunted which fits the storyline. While in your oh so humble opinion it controdicts the main events. And that is the only reason you call BS on the video. So yes, your OPINION. Your opinion vs my.. no. Not my.. vs FACTS shown in the video.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Hah! YOUR the one relies on a poster who has even more aschewed logic than you who posted the video you liar.
What now? What poster? I call things like I see them. And I see evidence that the video is connected to the main storyline and I see you try to ignore it because you doubt Jin's actions. So yeah, excuse me if im not ok with your nonsense.

SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Pretending alludes to me not presenting truth. This is a false assumption on your part. If you value facts sam, then reconcile the differences accurately as I did. Both sets of events cannot be official at the same time if they contradict eachother. I did pass a fact Sam, the facts are that Jin, who commands Mishima Zaibatsu and it's military power in the Tekken Force, suddenly galivanting off on his own, to face G-Tek military solo, charge up that glass tower, and tackle Kazuya and a few armed guards with full intent to kill. This however contradicts EVERYTHING he had done since Tekken 5 and everything else since. His entire reason for starting a war was not nessisarily to clash with Kazuya, but to draw out Azazel. To do this he needed Kazuya ALIVE and strong enough to fight and command G-Tek's military. You stupidly beleive the intro over the plot and you have the audacity to claim I am making assumption? AND then you say that it doesn't contradict because it's war? Now your trying to claim victory in this debate? Your logic is so aschewed I have to assume your in some kind of mental institution that allows internet access...
That's the problem with you, DZ. You THINK it controdicts the main events because you dont know Jin's motives. Ill seperate the video into pieces and take it slowly so you even you can understand there time.
Jin riding a bike. A risky thing to do? Yes. But an impossible scenario? No. And itself in no way controdicts the storyline. Point for me. Bounty on Jin's head? A clear reference to the main storyline. Another point for me. Jin wanting to teach Kazuya a lesson for sending assasins after him. An arrogant thing to do? Yes. An impossible scenario? Hell no. You would've had the point if Jin actually killed Kazuya in the video but all they did was fight a little. Again, in no way controdicts the main storyline despite your speculations. One more point for me. And lastly, the war between the the two being shown in the video is another clear reference to main storyline. Last point for me. And you expect me to concede? So far everything speaks in my favor.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

[QUOTE=13409689]Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
[B]Are you telling me that Jin wasn't going for a killshot at Kazuya? Are you so dense as to even attempt to call what I say "Oppinion" and yet still spount off complete lies, contradictions and oppinionated crap? Go away Sam, you are entirely no longer credible in this or any debate.
My credibility is known on this forum thank you very much. Cant say the same about you. First of all, Jin had the chance to kill Kazuya and he didnt take it when he had a free shot. I am not telling you what Jin was going for or what he was thinking when he attacked Kazuya because I do not make stuff up, i am not you. Im only saying that Jin having a short throwdown with Kazuya doesnt ruing his plans. You can say it does all you want, itd still only be your speculation. And since we're on the subject, they are currently making a CGI movie, canon to tekken storyline, the events of the movie happen between tekken 5 and 6 and the trailer already shows Jin and Kazuya fighting. So we know for a fact they fought more than once even. Didnt ruin Jin's plans then, wouldnt ruin his plans now. So far, not a single reason to doubt that the video is canon. But please continue to speculate.

SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
To sum it all up in one sentence - what Jin did in the video does NOT
prevent the rest of the story from taking place and so the video itself does not controdict the storyline.

Darkstorm Zero Master of all Decepticons

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SamZED Senior Member

Fine by me, DZ. Was getting sick of yur speculations anyway. Return to your world of ignorance. Wont hear from me again.

Darkstorm Zero Master of all Decepticons
Originally posted by SamZED
Fine by me, DZ. Was getting sick of yur speculations anyway. Return to your world of ignorance. Wont hear from me again.

Speculation on your part anyway. And ignorance is yours kid for blind faith. Either way, I'm too busy with RL to continue.

SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Speculation on your part anyway. And ignorance is yours kid for blind faith
Yeah yeah whatever.

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