Originally posted by quanchi112
The frost giants were super human as they were portrayed as taking on the asgardian army and Odin with the casket of winter. Who has Superman destroyed with his hv again ? What happened to Superman against the super computer again ? He was momentarily overwhelmed.
The Asgardian army consisted of axes and swords? Not really impressed. It was the frost giants vs odin. Really.
Hate to break it to you but Superman 3 and 4 are not canon to Superman 1/2/Returns.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman never fought anyone at Thor's level because based off of portrayal he was simply above races of superhuman beings, Loki with gungir, and the Destroyer
What? Superman is above any of those super human beings.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman tricked all of them and was unable to beat any of them. That's not the same as easily destroying your foes like Thor did while at the same time trying to save Loki's life time after time. Superman tricking them into becoming mortal men isn't physically beating anyone it's outsmarting them. LOL.
Superman couldn't beat them by himself because they were as powerful as him. No one looked as powerful as Thor, but then again none of them looked as powerful as movie Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Destroyer armor was portrayed and showed he was above everyone he encountered save Thor. His abilities made the destroyer beatable but direct physical assault did very little to the destroyer based off of it's ability to reconstruct itself.
The destroyer armor was a complete disappointment. The only reason I don't hate it is because it was used as a plot device for Thor recovering his powers.
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Game counting towards canon sounds interesting. if only that saved it from being a sucky game. Heard it was ok for Wii but not much for PS3/360.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The dependency on Mjolnir in the movie was crazy imo. I have no idea where Thor started and it ended. After this, people will probably believe his power all comes from the hammer. Just watch
They did this to the Silver Surfer as well. Anyway it certainly seems to be Odin's spell that did this rather than the loss of his hammer. Hence why he is surprised when he is unable to break through his restraints or when he complains about being locked into this "mortal form".
Anyway, one thing I liked was how Odin was presented as some omnipotent god. Sure he was far more powerful than the average Asgardian, but even he was unable to defeat the troll legions by himself. In fact, Thor seemed superior to his father, which is more in league with the legends than the comics but I liked it.
Originally posted by Zack FairSo ? These beings were super human. They weren't all Thor level beings but these guys could definitely go to war and rip Odin's eye out. It also wasn't just Odin vs. them if you think it was I suggest watching the movie again.
The Asgardian army consisted of axes and swords? Not really impressed. It was the frost giants vs odin. Really.Hate to break it to you but Superman 3 and 4 are not canon to Superman 1/2/Returns.
What? Superman is above any of those super human beings.
Superman couldn't beat them by himself because they were as powerful as him. No one looked as powerful as Thor, but then again none of them looked as powerful as movie Superman.
The destroyer armor was a complete disappointment. The only reason I don't hate it is because it was used as a plot device for Thor recovering his powers.
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Game counting towards canon sounds interesting. if only that saved it from being a sucky game. Heard it was ok for Wii but not much for PS3/360.
Superman 2 is which showed him not beat any super being under his own power.
Movie Superman didn't look that powerful or beyond or even at Thor's level. Thor was screwing around most of the time while Superman was desperate, retreated, and had to outsmart to beat three beings his own level. Hell, the other guy save Zod was just a dumb brute yet Superman failed to even best him under his own power.
I don't think so. You saying Superman being above everyone isn't really a debating tactic since you haven't proven it.
Destroyer armor isn't as powerful as in the comics but none of these characters are.
He was fighting 3 kryptonians who could shrug off getting smashed through buildings or taking punches that could send them flying several blocks. They didn't need healing chambers every time they got hit by something major.
By contrast everytime a jotun got hit, they died.
Supes himself was getting driven through several feet of concrete and showing no signs of damage.
He was also concerned with the innocent bystanders. In one instance after he threw Zod into a skyscraper he had to use his super speed to save a bystander from the falling debris. All of this just meant he couldn't win a direct physical fight without destroying more than he was willing to sacrifice.
It's a testament to how powerful the 3 kryptonians were that a guy who can reverse time on a planetary scale with sheer speed and who can prevent tectonic plates from sinking needed a clever ruse to win.
Originally posted by AllanklesWell Thor never had to use the Healing Chambers at all.
He was fighting 3 kryptonians who could shrug off getting smashed through buildings or taking punches that could send them flying several blocks. They didn't need healing chambers every time they got hit by something major.By contrast everytime a jotun got hit, they died.
Supes himself was getting driven through several feet of concrete and showing no signs of damage.
He was also concerned with the innocent bystanders. In one instance after he threw Zod into a skyscraper he had to use his super speed to save a bystander from the falling debris. All of this just meant he couldn't win a direct physical fight without destroying more than he was willing to sacrifice.
It's a testament to how powerful the 3 kryptonians were that a guy who can reverse time on a planetary scale with sheer speed and who can prevent tectonic plates from sinking needed a clever ruse to win.
The only time we see him get hit from the Jotuns he laughed it off. He also took attacks from Odin's spear.
Plus while the Jotun obviously aren't near Zod in power they were still very dangerous beings. Their touch instantly froze off Loki's armor. Their mere presence caused solid objects to ice over with ease. And the ice weapons they formed were strong enough to counter asgardian metal for a time.
Plus Thor did survive that big explosion at the end unscathed.
Thor I think was shown to be pretty tough in his own right in this movie.
Originally posted by AllanklesWhen did Thor have to use the healing chambers ? So Heimdall after being completely frozen through by the casket of winters is somehow proof of what in regards to Thor ? LOL.
He was fighting 3 kryptonians who could shrug off getting smashed through buildings or taking punches that could send them flying several blocks. They didn't need healing chambers every time they got hit by something major.By contrast everytime a jotun got hit, they died.
Supes himself was getting driven through several feet of concrete and showing no signs of damage.
He was also concerned with the innocent bystanders. In one instance after he threw Zod into a skyscraper he had to use his super speed to save a bystander from the falling debris. All of this just meant he couldn't win a direct physical fight without destroying more than he was willing to sacrifice.
It's a testament to how powerful the 3 kryptonians were that a guy who can reverse time on a planetary scale with sheer speed and who can prevent tectonic plates from sinking needed a clever ruse to win.
Thor was basically laughing off attacks by the destroyer, frost giants, Odin's spear, etc. and still easily dominating anyone in his path.
Reversing time has nothing to do with how he is portrayed in combat. Nothing. You bringing this up proves nothing other than when he's really upset because his gf died he can reverse time by flying over an dover earth at his fastest speeds.
It shows Superman was an equal to them all and needed to outsmart them to defeat any of them.
Originally posted by Newjak
Well Thor never had to use the Healing Chambers at all.The only time we see him get hit from the Jotuns he laughed it off. He also took attacks from Odin's spear.
Plus while the Jotun obviously aren't near Zod in power they were still very dangerous beings. Their touch instantly froze off Loki's armor. Their mere presence caused solid objects to ice over with ease. And the ice weapons they formed were strong enough to counter asgardian metal for a time.
Plus Thor did survive that big explosion at the end unscathed.
Thor I think was shown to be pretty tough in his own right in this movie.
No one ever denied Thor was tough in his own right. He is pretty much 2nd to Supes in overall impressive feats in comic book movies IMO.
Originally posted by CosmicCometIf I'm not mistaken he takes down pretty much his entire villain roster. Which would be retarded if he really does all that shit before the actual movie. At least imo.
That it's canon to the movie? Why is that hard to believe?I think Rage said it's supposed to take place before the movie.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
I have a hard time believing this.
I read or heard it an interview. If I'm right, Thor definitely has some impressive feats to add to his name.
He has various shit like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YrzHOvHP0E&feature=watch_response#t=08m30s
http://www.youtube.com/user/wajinshu#p/u/4/B9J-CNwv6Hs#t=07m18s