Lions versus Velociraptors

Originally posted by dadudemon
Here I come to shit on your parade.

Lions use decoy tactics as well as Leopards.

Additionally, house cats and dogs can open doors. As far as tricks go, you can train a Lion to do far more complex tasks than opening doors.

I still think the Raptors take it because they are actually warm blooded and are far more equipped for a fight (meaning, they could fight for a while longer than most lizards.)

Hardly a shit.

Training, exactly. Far different than learning alone by watching a few times.

Because you're sensible.

I watched The Ghost and the Darkness recently and wasn't all that impressed by the lions. In many occasions they have the lions in the sights or in an easy trap but the hunters freak out everytime and screw up.
Even Val Kilmer's character freezes and misses an easily shot.
The fear of the Lions was their greatest weapon.

The Raptors were far more impressive. But there's only 2 of em.
This fights isn't as one sided as many think here.
The Lions in the film are far more formidable in close combat.
The Raptors would definitely have to lure them into the bushes.
I'm not decided on the victor.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
You forgot the part where the wicked sharp inches long claw digs into the back of the Lion's neck.

Oh, and two raptors took down one T. Rex. They opened doors, cupboards, jumped suddenly and swiftly and... deadly.

You remember the beginning of JP? When the archaologist was like "T.Rex, Shmee Rex, but what about those RAPTORS?"

Originally posted by siriuswriter B]
Lions are neither the fastest big cat nor the bravest. The males leave all the dirty work to the females. They wouldn't even know what to do with a raptor. [/B]

True, actually! 😆

I forgot that Lionesses are the true badasses of that particular species.

If two were in their physical prime, and in peak size whilst also having good motivation (hunger, for instance) then I still say it would be a challenge for the dinosaurs.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
Oh, and two raptors took down one T. Rex.

Hm. When? At the end of JP, two Raptors attacked a T-Rex, and one got picked up in it's jaws and hurled into a wall, and the other got it's neck snapped, I think.

I don't recall a pair of raptors ever beating a T-Rex.

I've heard of cases where a Lion or pair of lions have beaten an elephant, though.

Originally posted by NowYouRemember

I've heard of cases where a Lion or pair of lions have beaten an elephant, though.

A baby or sick elephant. A healthy adult, it takes a pack of lions and at night.

Originally posted by Robtard
A baby or sick elephant. A healthy adult, it takes a pack of lions and at night.

Now that would be interesting to look into. 😉

Originally posted by siriuswriter
You forgot the part where the wicked sharp inches long claw digs into the back of the Lion's neck.

Oh, and two raptors took down one T. Rex. They opened doors, cupboards, jumped suddenly and swiftly and... deadly.

You remember the beginning of JP? When the archaologist was like "T.Rex, Shmee Rex, but what about those RAPTORS?"

Lions are neither the fastest big cat nor the bravest. The males leave all the dirty work to the females. They wouldn't even know what to do with a raptor.

Now let's talk size.

The Raptor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velociraptor

Velociraptor was a mid-sized dromaeosaurid, with adults measuring up to 2.07 m (6.8 ft) long, 0.5 m (1.6 ft) high at the hip, and weighing up to 15 kg (33 lb).

The Lion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion

The lion (Panthera leo) is one of the four big cats in the genus Panthera, and a member of the family Felidae. With some males exceeding 250 kg (550 lb) in weight.

As for the T Rex being taken down by the raptors, the Lions are far quicker than a damn T Rex. The raptor's try clawing them, they're gonna have their heads caved in by a Lion paw. One Lion bite is gonna crush any part of the Raptors.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Now let's talk size.

The Raptor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velociraptor

Velociraptor was a mid-sized dromaeosaurid, with adults measuring up to 2.07 m (6.8 ft) long, 0.5 m (1.6 ft) high at the

The Lion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion

The lion (Panthera leo) is one of the four big cats in the genus Panthera, and a member of the family Felidae. With some males exceeding 250 kg (550 lb) in weight.

As for the T Rex being taken down by the raptors, the Lions are far quicker than a damn T Rex. The raptor's try clawing them, they're gonna have their heads caved in by a Lion paw. One Lion bite is gonna crush any part of the Raptors.

LoL, EPIC FAIL.

I'll give you 15mins to figure it out, if so, I'll edit this out. YOU CAN DO IT!

Seriously RJ, are you trying to use actual Raptor specs, when actual raptors were basically tiny, scaly birds?

Deinonychus is actually the species they were calling velociraptor in the movie, and they are not the same. But they were in the same genus at the time, and the Deinonychus is much more dangerous.

Let's see, 6 feet tall on average, 9 feet long, and 200lbs. And if we use the Alpha female, the one who killed 5 raptors by herself, and was a f*cking super genius...yes the raptors win.

And let's not forget the Alpha Female, aka the Big One took 2 spas 12 shots and didn't die.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
A pack of JP raptors would annihilate any one of those animals you listed, except the aquatic ones. Packs of wolverines can scare off Polar bear, ffs.

Uh, no, you may have seen a wolverine scare off a small black bear, as I have, but not a polar bear.

Also, I am just gonna point out that killing the lions via going for the neck is relatively unlikely, their mane kind of gets in the way of such things.

Unless these are wmn lions or something.

The Ghost and The Darkness were maneless males, at least in real life. I don't recall if the film captured this.

Maneless males?

That takes one of their best defense mechanisms away from them, lol.

Oh yeah and RJ the Velociraptors in Jurassic Park made Paleontologists cry. They are not really accurate to what they were IRL, lol. They were smaller and had feathers.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Maneless males?

That takes one of their best defense mechanisms away from them, lol.

Oh yeah and RJ the Velociraptors in Jurassic Park made Paleontologists cry. They are not really accurate to what they were IRL, lol. They were smaller and had feathers.

Utah raptors are around JP size.

I WASNT ****ING TALKING ABOUT UTAH RAPTORS!

Originally posted by NemeBro

Oh yeah and RJ the Velociraptors in Jurassic Park made Paleontologists cry. They are not really accurate to what they were IRL, lol. They were smaller and had feathers.

YEah, the JP raptors were based more on Deinonychus, and they were pretty big

Why wouldn't you talk about Utah Raptors? They're only like the best raptors ever!

I just kinda assumed the Jurassic Park people didn't give a shit and made the dinosaurs look however the hell they wanted. Although IIRC that was carried from the book.

It could also be a case of Science Marches On.

Originally posted by KingD19

Deinonychus is actually the species they were calling velociraptor in the movie, and they are not the same. But they were in the same genus at the time, and the Deinonychus is much more dangerous.

Let's see, 6 feet tall on average, 9 feet long, and 200lbs. And if we use the Alpha female, the one who killed 5 raptors by herself, and was a f*cking super genius...yes the raptors win.

And yeah, like I said, at the time Deinonychus was a part of the raptor genus, so they used the obviously more dangerous/scary/bigger one.

You're talking to yourself, bro.