Originally posted by KingD19
Seriously RJ, are you trying to use actual Raptor specs, when actual raptors were basically tiny, scaly birds?Deinonychus is actually the species they were calling velociraptor in the movie, and they are not the same. But they were in the same genus at the time, and the Deinonychus is much more dangerous.
Let's see, 6 feet tall on average, 9 feet long, and 200lbs. And if we use the Alpha female, the one who killed 5 raptors by herself, and was a f*cking super genius...yes the raptors win.
No, just quoting actual raptor and lion specs. The JP raptors are obviously bigger, as are the lions.
Super genius? Lulz. I started the thread with just two run of the mill JP raptors, you know. I was thinking the ones killed by the T Rex in JP1.
But OK, use the chick. She's on unfamiliar ground being hunted by Lions who are just as quick, stronger, bigger and have far superior stealth. And yes, they are smart enough to lay traps for her.
One Lion bite and a raptor is done. Lions have longer reach from what I can tell. One paw swipe and their head is caved in.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm Sure, with those stubby little arms. Even so, the raptor's neck will be snapped instantly.
"Stubby little arms?"
Silly rabbit, don't you know that raptors fight with their legs and feet?
Lion moves to "hug" raptor with front paws to get close enough to wrap jaws around neck... but the raptor flips under the lion and digs those two wicked talons on the back of their feet into lion's back. Lion paralyzed. Lion dead.
That's because the Raptors were like......inside the building......It was more capable of pursuit.
Oh. 'Cause I was talking about the beginning, before they got to the island. When he was teasing the fat kid, and took his little talon talisman and raped him with it.
And thanks for ceding the point that raptors adapt to their environments lots quicker.
Originally posted by siriuswriter"Stubby little arms?"
Have you looked at a sketch of even just the skeleton of a raptor?
Lion moves to "hug" raptor with front paws to get close enough to wrap jaws around neck... but the raptor flips under the lion and digs those two wicked talons on the back of their feet into lion's back. Lion paralyzed. Lion dead.
Not gonna happen, bro. The raptors are never gonna see the lions. The lions displayed far superior stealth. This is fact and you need to accept it. All the raptor can do is feel it's neck snap. Lion= Stronger, quicker, longer reach, superior stealth.
Oh. 'Cause I was talking about the beginning, before they got to the island. When he was teasing the fat kid, and took his little talon talisman and raped him with it.I did? haermm I was talking about them being smaller, doofus.And thanks for ceding the point that raptors adapt to their environments lots quicker.
Originally posted by Rogue JediSuper genius? Lulz. I started the thread with just two run of the mill JP raptors, you know. I was thinking the ones killed by the T Rex in JP1.
She was one of the raptors killed by the T-Rex. And yes, she displayed outstanding problem solving skills. For a dinosaur who'd never been exposed to any of this before hand, that's pretty smart. She was the one who killed the hunter, the one who figured out the door, the one who killed 5 other raptors with no help, the one who coordinated every raptor kill and attack in the first movie.
Originally posted by KingD19Not a math quiz, dude.
She was one of the raptors killed by the T-Rex. And yes, she displayed outstanding problem solving skills. For a dinosaur who'd never been exposed to any of this before hand, that's pretty smart. She was the one who killed the hunter, the one who figured out the door, the one who killed 5 other raptors with no help, the one who coordinated every raptor kill and attack in the first movie.
Originally posted by ImpedimentI know, right? When you consider:
I seriously cannot believe that this thread made it past one page.
1. The Lions outweigh the raptors at least 3 to 1
2. The lions showed superior stealth
3. The lions are stronger
4. The lions have stronger bites
5. The lions have longer reach
6. The lions have home field advantage
7. The lions had better screen feats
Lions rape.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not gonna happen, bro. The raptors are never gonna see the lions. The lions displayed far superior stealth. This is fact and you need to accept it. All the raptor can do is feel it's neck snap. Lion= Stronger, quicker, longer reach, superior stealth.
Do you actually believe the shit you spew? Serious question.
Stealth at hiding from people, the raptors are full blown predators themselves.
How do you know a lion would just "snap" a Raptor's neck?
How do you know a lion is stronger? The JP Raptors are fictional.
The lions certainly aren't quicker. The JP Raptors were running 50-60 mph in the second film.
The lions certainly aren't smarter
Reach? Maybe. Also, those front limbs are tiny or useless, they're claws.
Originally posted by RobtardCalm down.
Do you actually believe the shit you spew? Serious question.
Stealth at hiding from people, the raptors are full blown predators themselves.And the lions showed superior predatory skills.
How do you know a lion would just "snap" a Raptor's neck?Because the raptors have skinny necks and the Lions in question were shown ripping humans apart with ease.
How do you know a lion is stronger? The JP Raptors are fictional.Going by what I saw onscreen.
The lions certainly aren't quicker. The JP Raptors were running 50-60 mph in the second film.Combat speed.
The lions certainly aren't smarterThey are at least on par.
Reach? Maybe. Also, those front limbs are tiny or useless, they're claws. [/B][/QUOTE] Mhm, and one swipe of a lion's paw is gonna clean a raptors clock.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Calm down.And the lions showed superior predatory skills.
Because the raptors have skinny necks and the Lions in question were shown ripping humans apart with ease.
Going by what I saw onscreen.
Combat speed.
They are at least on par.
Mhm, and one swipe of a lion's paw is gonna clean a raptors clock.
Oh boy, another one of these threads.
How? Both stalked humans and were successful.
Those necks aren't that skinny. The JP Raptors were shown ripping apart humans with ease, Samuel Jackson was eaten with only his arm left remaining.
What did you see on screen that makes the lions stronger? In JP3, a Raptor snaps a man's neck with a simple little twist.
Where did the lions show superior "combat speed"? Show or name the scene(s).
"At least on par"? The Raptors have shown high primate intelligence. Setting traps, playing on human emotions, figuring out doors, testing the weakness of their prison etc. Helps if you've seen all the JP films. Name the scene(s) where the lions showed this in kind of IQ?
Where do you get "one swipe will kill a raptor" from?
Originally posted by Robtard
Oh boy, another one of these threads.How? Both stalked humans and were successful.
Those necks aren't that skinny. The JP Raptors were shown ripping apart humans with ease, Samuel Jackson was eaten with only his arm left remaining.
What did you see on screen that makes the lions stronger? In JP3, a Raptor snaps a man's neck with a simple little twist.
Where did the lions show superior "combat speed"? Show or name the scene(s).
"At least on par"? The Raptors have shown high primate intelligence. Setting traps, playing on human emotions, figuring out doors, testing the weakness of their prison etc. Helps if you've seen all the JP films. Name the scene(s) where the lions showed this in kind of IQ?
Where do you get "one swipe will kill a raptor" from?
Indeed, my response was retaliatory. I heart you heartbeat
Because the Lions did so over at least a year, killing more than 100. 100 natives who knew the land, who were as efficient with their weapons as we are with guns, who knew they were being hunted. The Lions lasted that long without being caught.
The Lions are way bigger, more muscle mass. The V-Raptors weighed 200ish pounds, the Lions around 650-700. Do the math.
Man's neck FTW? Hell, Riggs does the same.
I'm talking about Lions in general. These lions are far faster than regular lions.
The scene where the lions laid the trap and killed the curly haired faggy looking guy, I posted it.
Well, at the very least, a paw swipe will knock a raptor on it's ass.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Indeed, my response was retaliatory. I heart you heartbeatBecause the Lions did so over at least a year, killing more than 100. 100 natives who knew the land, who were as efficient with their weapons as we are with guns, who knew they were being hunted. The Lions lasted that long without being caught.
The Lions are way bigger, more muscle mass. The V-Raptors weighed 200ish pounds, the Lions around 650-700. Do the math.
Man's neck FTW? Hell, Riggs does the same.
I'm talking about Lions in general. These lions are far faster than regular lions.
The scene where the lions laid the trap and killed the curly haired faggy looking guy, I posted it.
Well, at the very least, a paw swipe will knock a raptor on it's ass.
Sure, if we ignore that JP took place in an isolated preserve, the Raptors where initially caged and there where only a handful of human.
Bigger yes, but these Raptors are fictional; I have no idea how strong they're supposed to be. I do recall a raptor smashing through plate glass. So again, where did the lions show greater strength?
I rarely watch your clips, as most of the time you see something completely different than what is actually shown. The raptors were smart enough to wound a man and leave him as bait, preying on human emotions that someone would come in to save the guy and fall prey themselves. Did the lions do anything like this?
Again, where do you get "a swipe will knock a raptor on its ass" from? Also a far cry from the previous "will crush."
Originally posted by Robtard
Sure, if we ignore that JP took place in an isolated preserve, the Raptors where initially caged and there where only a handful of human.Bigger yes, but these Raptors are fictional; I have no idea how strong they're supposed to be. I do recall a raptor smashing through plate glass. So again, where did the lions show greater strength?
I rarely watch your clips, as most of the time you see something completely different than what is actually shown. The raptors were smart enough to wound a man and leave him as bait, preying on human emotions that someone would come in to save the guy and fall prey themselves. Did the lions do anything like this?
Again, where do you get "a swipe will knock a raptor on its ass" from? Also a far cry from the previous "will crush."
And? Fact is the lions did it. The raptors had trouble with two kids, dude.
It's math, dude. The Lions outweigh them at least 3 to 1.
K, and the lions were smart enough to have one out in the open munching on a native, and when Kilmer rounded the corner and prepared to shoot it, the other lion was above and behind him on the roof. Classic decoy trap.
Will crush was a bit much I admit. Because the lions have much more muscle mass. It's like comparing Marv to McClane.