Lions versus Velociraptors

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And? Fact is the lions did it. The raptors had trouble with two kids, dude.

It's math, dude. The Lions outweigh them at least 3 to 1.

K, and the lions were smart enough to have one out in the open munching on a native, and when Kilmer rounded the corner and prepared to shoot it, the other lion was above and behind him on the roof. Classic decoy trap.

Will crush was a bit much I admit. Because the lions have much more muscle mass. It's like comparing Marv to McClane.

PSI. The kids weren't going to die in a PG-13. The raptors are lethal predators; it's shown, just deal with it.

So weight = strength and that's that? Fail.

Not only does that feat not show greater intelligence that the one I mentioned, the raptors did similar in the first film. So no, lions aren't smarter.

Again, we're talking about fictional animals. They could be 200lbs, but be mostly muscle and/or have denser muscle. Granted, I have no idea, but I'm not making claims to fact either way.

Another think we're ignoring (well, I know why you're ignoring it) is natural weaponry. Raptors have a mouth filled with razor teeth made to slice off flesh, not grab and hold. They've also have 6-inch claws on their feet.

(EDIT: Double post)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And? Fact is the lions did it. The raptors had trouble with two kids, dude.

Will crush was a bit much I admit. Because the lions have much more muscle mass. It's like comparing Marv to McClane.

The raptors were hunting on slick polished floors against hacker smartass kids who were able to lock all the doors etc...and if it wasnt for that T-Rex showing up (A TRex that would have swallowed you lion in a couple of gulps, BTW) then those kids, Alan and his Missus, and Goldblum would have been doooooooooooooooomed.

Or McClane to Riggs, for that matter....

And a raptor took two shotgun blasts without dying. I doubt a lion could take that and keep kicking.

A lion could take 100.

Originally posted by Robtard
PSI. The kids weren't going to die in a PG-13. The raptors are lethal predators; it's shown, just deal with it.

So weight = strength and that's that? Fail.

Not only does that feat not show greater intelligence that the one I mentioned, the raptors did similar in the first film. So no, lions aren't smarter.

Again, we're talking about fictional animals. They could be 200lbs, but be mostly muscle and/or have denser muscle. Granted, I have no idea, but I'm not making claims to fact either way.

Another think we're ignoring (well, I know why you're ignoring it) is natural weaponry. Raptors have a mouth filled with razor teeth made to slice off flesh, not grab and hold. They've also have 6-inch claws on their feet.

Originally posted by Mindset
A lion could take 100.

Shut up, Meg.

Originally posted by Mindset
A lion could take 100.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm WOW, dude.....

Sure, these things never come in handy during a fight!!!! 😱

They're at least on par.

K?

K, and the Lions have a bite that'll snap their neck like a twig, as well as claws too. And a longer reach.

What's "wow", how you'll ignore the Raptors top feats and try to bring the debate to "they couldn't kill the children." In that case, the lions where killed by humans. The two raptors I have in mind had to be taken out by a 7 ton T-Rex, ergo by your logic, the raptors "rape" here on that merit alone. /thread

Non sequitor, dude. You made the claim that the lions are stronger. So prove it.

No, they're not on par. Laying a trap that factors in the emotions of your prey shows higher levels of intelligence.

K, make your case, as you're the one making the claims pulled from your ass.

Again, you have yet to prove that a fictional raptors neck would just "snap" instantly from a lions bite.

Originally posted by Robtard
What's "wow", how you'll ignore the Raptors top feats and try to bring the debate to "they couldn't kill the children." In that case, the lions where killed by humans. The two raptors I have in mind had to be taken out by a 7 ton T-Rex, ergo by your logic, the raptors "rape" here on that merit alone. /thread

Non sequitor, dude. You made the claim that the lions are stronger. So prove it.

No, they're not on par. Laying a trap that factors in the emotions of your prey shows higher levels of intelligence.

K, make your case, as you're the one making the claims pulled from your ass.

Again, you have yet to prove that a fictional raptors neck would just "snap" instantly from a lions bite.

The wow is you saying "The raptors didn't do it, but they could if they wanted."

Again, simple math. Is Butterbean stronger than you? I rest my case.

A trap is a trap, dude. The lions knew the hunters would focus on one while the other ambushed them.

I made my case. Go back and read again.

You ever see a lion fight?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The wow is you saying "The raptors didn't do it, but they could if they wanted."

Again, simple math. Is Butterbean stronger than you? I rest my case.

A trap is a trap, dude. The lions knew the hunters would focus on one while the other ambushed them.

I made my case. Go back and read again.

You ever see a lion fight?

Considering they killed greater threats, like a skilled hunter with a spas, I'd say the children surviving was plot and not "the raptors are lame and stupid."

Yeah, except, Robtard and Butterbean aren't fictional genetically engineered creatures. So the case rest on you, which you have yet to properly present.

Yeah, no. One showed greater intelligence. So stop trying to down-play. That's a lame tactic you always resort too.

No, you didn't.

Yes. You've still to prove a lion would just "snap" a raptors neck, should it get that far, which is unlikely.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering they killed greater threats, like a skilled hunter with a spas, I'd say the children surviving was plot and not "the raptors are lame and stupid."

Yeah, except, Robtard and Butterbean aren't fictional genetically engineered creatures. So the case rest on you, which you have yet to properly present.

Yeah, no. One showed greater intelligence. So stop trying to down-play. That's a lame tactic you always resort too.

No, you didn't.

Yes. You've still to prove a lion would just "snap" a raptors neck, should it get that far, which is unlikely.

Unlikely? The Lions, for the umpteenth time, were better hunters. They're on THEIR turf too.

Lions win this.
I'm actually surprised by some of the people here who are definite on the Raptors.

1. The Raptors intellect and adaptibility won't aid them here. The Lions were just as impressive.

2. It's the lions home turf.

3. Raptors shine when in packs of 5 or more. 2 won't cut it here.

4. What can the Raptors do cut the lions throats? those talons are for ripping open stomachs and throats. The Lions are too large. And their jugular is situated bhind/below their MOUTHS.

Lions win this 9/10.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lulz, greater threat. Dude was an idiot, plain and simple.

Nah, it relates. Outweighed over 3 to 1, the Lions are surely far stronger.

Both traps worked just as effectively.

Yes, I did.

Unlikely? The Lions, for the umpteenth time, were better hunters. They're on THEIR turf too.

Greater threats relative to the children. Yeah, I'm sure you would have done better with the spas; I've no doubt you'd have "pwned" all the raptors.

Because bigger = stronger as fact when we're dealing with fiction. Pull your head out of your ass, dude.

Yet one showed a greater level of intelligence. Dance all you like, this is fact. Might as well say a spear is equal to a gun, cos both will kill you the same with a hit through the heart.

No, you didn't.

Non sequiter. How does "better hunter" somehow mean "will snap neck" now? You've also yet to prove the lions are better at hunting.

Weren't the raptors taking out guys less than 10 feet away from each other so silently that no one noticed?

Weren't the Lions sneaking into camps dragging off fully grown men? Camps that had hundreds of people?

Don't know, never saw the movie.

But the Raptors were taking down guys less than 15 feet away from each other, and were actively searching for the Raptors, with firearms. Did any of them even have time to let off a shot to try and survive, or warn the others?

Haven't seen JP in years and the details are fuzzy.

They were.

The raptors were under cover of the tall grass.

I think......

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