Manchester Black vs Gladiator

Started by carver917 pages

TP wouldn't work.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/71744606.jpg/

Is Rachel really the equal of MB?

Or even a peer?

She is powerful but if you look at her fight with Emma Frost she is quite lacking in the skill department. As for that scan from what I can remember it was something to do with the gun in the illusion that tipped off Glads that something was wrong.If not for that I don't know he would have known something was off.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
She is powerful but if you look at her fight with Emma Frost she is quite lacking in the skill department. As for that scan from what I can remember it was something to do with the gun in the illusion that tipped off Glads that something was wrong.If not for that I don't know he would have known something was off.

Uuummm... Emma is one of the most powerful TP in Marvel and would RAPE chester in a TP fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Uuummm... Emma is one of the most powerful TP in Marvel and would RAPE chester in a TP fight.

No she wouldn't.

Beat possibly, but she's not "raping" him.

Put down the Marvel crack pipe.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No she wouldn't.

Beat possibly, but she's not "raping" him.

Put down the Marvel crack pipe.

Gotcha...

As long as we are on the same page that he would lose.

Originally posted by carver9
Uuummm... Emma is one of the most powerful TP in Marvel and would RAPE chester in a TP fight.

I am talking about skill and training the fight make it clear the difference between the two and how far Rachel still needed to go.She certainly does not lack power but when we are talking about telepathy skill is almost as important.

BTW shame on you for trying to past of the non cannon scan earlier I would never have guessed that you would be a guy you would have to go back and check the scans everything you made a claim.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I am talking about skill and training the fight make it clear the difference between the two and how far Rachel still needed to go.She certainly does not lack power but when we are talking about telepathy skill is almost as important.

BTW shame on you for trying to past of the non cannon scan earlier I would never have guessed that you would be a guy you would have to go back and check the scans everything you made a claim.

What non-canon scan?

mb.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Is Rachel really the equal of MB?

Or even a peer?

In power? Probably?

Skill wise? Not a chance.

TP is a method MB could use to win.

Originally posted by leonidas
huh? i was talking specifically about his vision feats. his favourite feat of mine was the vulcan feat. i loved vulcan, but glads got some respect there. beating the phoenix shard wielder was pretty cool too. contrary to your assumption i don't hate him. but i do see him as he is and what he was craeted as.

Half of what he just said wasn't true anyway, or just twisted to sound better than it was.

Originally posted by -Pr-
In power? Probably?

Skill wise? Not a chance.

TP is a method MB could use to win.

no doubt. it's hard to say how black would compare with emma. i'd say he has more power overall, and clearly he has some uber skill. not sure who'd win that fight. she's devious and might be able to beat him strictly via tp battle, but he has more than just tp.

Half of what he just said wasn't true anyway, or just twisted to sound better than it was.

yeah, i know all the instances he was talking about but bringing them all up seemed pointless. attempting to falsify scans is NOT cool though. 😬

The Elite are supposed to be (individually) a match for Superman in terms of their power levels. Their meta human ratings rival his according to Waller.

Originally posted by Simbon
And in comics, for whatever reason, TP tends to be faster.

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Depends on who the TP is, and who the speedster is.

Case in point:


What IS an established fact is that once a TP command has been given, it travels faster than light. But the reaction time of tp-ers (aka the time it takes them to form the thought of launching a TP attack, up until they launch it) <<<< speedsters.

I'm gathering up more scans like this from my (mostly DC) collections, and I will in the end make an official speedsters vs. tp-ers topic. Meanwhile though I'm re-reading the Morrison Animal Man run just cause it's awesome 🙂

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~

What IS an established fact is that once a TP command has been given, it travels faster than light. But the reaction time of tp-ers (aka the time it takes them to form the thought of launching a TP attack, up until they launch it) <<<< speedsters.

I'm gathering up more scans like this from my (mostly DC) collections, and I will in the end make an official speedsters vs. tp-ers topic. Meanwhile though I'm re-reading the Morrison Animal Man run just cause it's awesome 🙂

cool. should be a good thread. and i've never read that run. where does it start and end? i've heard a lot of great things about it.

Originally posted by leonidas
cool. should be a good thread. and i've never read that run. where does it start and end? i've heard a lot of great things about it.

Grant Morrison revival
In the late 1980s, following the slate-cleaning Crisis on Infinite Earths event, DC began employing innovative writers to revamp some of their old characters. In the period that saw Alan Moore reinvent Swamp Thing, and Neil Gaiman do the same with The Sandman, Animal Man was reimagined by Scottish writer Grant Morrison. Morrison wrote the first 26 issues of the Animal Man comic book, published between 1988 and 1990, with art by Chas Truog and Doug Hazlewood; Brian Bolland provided the covers.

Although the series was initially conceived as a four-issue limited series, it was upgraded into an on-going series following strong sales. Consequently, Morrison developed several long-running plots, introducing mysteries, some of which were not explained until a year or two later. The title featured the protagonist both in and — increasingly — out of costume.

Morrison made the title character an everyman figure living in a universe populated by superheroes, aliens, and fantastic technology. Buddy's wife Ellen, his son Cliff (9 years old at the beginning of the series), and his daughter Maxine (5 years old) featured prominently in most storylines, and his relationship with them, as husband, father, and provider, was an ongoing theme.

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Buddy fought several menaces, such as an ancient, murderous spirit that was hunting him; brutal, murderous alien Thanagarian warriors; and even the easily-defeated red robots of an elderly villain who was tired of life. The series made deep, sometimes esoteric, references to the entire DC canon, including B'wana Beast, Mirror Master, and Arkham Asylum.

It is awesome. Animal Man is cool, Morrison is awesome. Totally recommended 👆

Yo.

Originally posted by carver9
Reed boosted their speeds at Hyper speed levels which is basically thousands of times FTL and Glads was able to match their speeds and even follow their movements before busting in there to engage Thor. One of the best speed feats in comics minus the Zoom and Flash fight and that is a pure indication of what you said. The writer made that scene as an indication of Gladiators power buuuuut.....

where was "hypers speed levels = 1000's of times FTL" actually said??

in the same comic the feat took place in, or was that *yur* estimation of said?

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by carver9
TP wouldn't work.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/71744606.jpg/

thats dishonest carver, as that page was the tail-end of a fight where Glads was being made to think he was being blasted by an energy cannon by Rocket, when in fact it was a tp-ploy by Rachel which he only came to figure out cuz of some little factoid they'd gotten wrong; Rocket had gotten in quite a few "blasts" b4 he figured out the deception.

so yea, tp WOULD work on him.

Tazer

You know I hate agreeing with carver, but isn't it pretty much decided that Kallark takes this?

yea i think this has pretty much turned into a debate over superspeed and tp in general

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~

What IS an established fact is that once a TP command has been given, it travels faster than light. But the reaction time of tp-ers (aka the time it takes them to form the thought of launching a TP attack, up until they launch it) <<<< speedsters.

I'm gathering up more scans like this from my (mostly DC) collections, and I will in the end make an official speedsters vs. tp-ers topic. Meanwhile though I'm re-reading the Morrison Animal Man run just cause it's awesome 🙂

I said "tends to be faster," not is always faster; and we both know that reaction times in comics are not as keyed to super-speed as they should be.