And about the "tremendous strenght" of Shao Kahn... In MKA intro he threw people like ragdolls with an hit of his Wrtah Hammer, but is nowhere comparable to the strenght that Gouki uses in his CANON endings when he destroys islands, mountains, etc.
And the fact that Raiden has to do a self-destructive attack to do something that freakin' CHUN LI can do without killing herself is quite the ultimate proof that SFverse > MKverse.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You made the claim so the burden of proof is on you not me.
I made a claim? Where?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then it's easy to back up here which you haven't done. Just concede already.
No, it's me not doing the legwork you SHOULD have done before opening this thread mister OP. If you won't do it, then that basically amounts to you just wanting to say MK wins over SFer, which is both spamming and trolling.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I used canon story mode material for shao Kahn with multiple instances. Not my fault you want to disregard it.
You did? Where? you aluded to endings for Shao Kahn and all but one are non-canon.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When did you prove Ryu's ending is canon ? Honestly.
You have reading comprehension difficulty on top of research deficiency then.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When has Akuma ever hit someone with a multilevel psi attack ?
Uh, any battle where he doesn;t hold back the lions share of his power while still in base form. AKA Bison, Gen, Oro, Gill and Gouken.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Raiden has already shown he can hang with Shang Tsung and Quan Chi for a limited time, killed Motaro, killed Liu Kang, and come back from a self destructive attack.
Can you prove he killed Motaro and Liu? Besides, it's irrelevant. Gouki has killed, and has fought resurrectors before.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The sorcery of mk has enthralled earth before so i'd say it more than speaks for itself.
And I'd say your wanking t's potential to try and cover your ass, besides, where's your "Proof?"
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroOh so now you concede the endings aren't canon. K.
I made a claim? Where?No, it's me not doing the legwork you SHOULD have done before opening this thread mister OP. If you won't do it, then that basically amounts to you just wanting to say MK wins over SFer, which is both spamming and trolling.
You did? Where? you aluded to endings for Shao Kahn and all but one are non-canon.
You have reading comprehension difficulty on top of research deficiency then.
Uh, any battle where he doesn;t hold back the lions share of his power while still in base form. AKA Bison, Gen, Oro, Gill and Gouken.
Can you prove he killed Motaro and Liu? Besides, it's irrelevant. Gouki has killed, and has fought resurrectors before.
And I'd say your wanking t's potential to try and cover your ass, besides, where's your "Proof?"
No, I am debating why I feel Mk wins you are acting like it's already been decided street fighter wins and that debate is pointless because the majority here have already decided. Either prove it or concede.
I did that in one post to show you the utter folly and horrible logic that it's in his abilities to do so despite it never occurring canonically.
Insults won't hide the fact you have only speculated his ending is canon.
So every attack in the new upcoming dl content will be a multi psi attack. I look forward to proving you wrong when I play against other fighters as him as he won't be oneshotting anyone.
It's in the story mode of the newest mk. At the end of the game he kills Raiden and during the initial events of mk 3 the invasion he kills Motaro in the latest one.
Which characters has he killed before ?
My proof is in story mode. Not my fault you didn't do your leg work.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Sounds like disdain for SF.And MK being protrayed as more powerful than SF? You kidding me? 😆
Raiden and Shao Kahn are the only ones who show any higher end power and they get their asses kicked by the likes of Liu Lame and Johnny Cage. Akuma would thrash them hard.
And Akuma couldn't beat Ryu.
Shao Kahn would trash him hard. 🙄
Originally posted by Meioh_Hades
And about the "tremendous strenght" of Shao Kahn... In MKA intro he threw people like ragdolls with an hit of his Wrtah Hammer, but is nowhere comparable to the strenght that Gouki uses in his CANON endings when he destroys islands, mountains, etc.And the fact that Raiden has to do a self-destructive attack to do something that freakin' CHUN LI can do without killing herself is quite the ultimate proof that SFverse > MKverse.
No it's not. Chun-Li's explosion wasn't even on the same level as Raiden's.
Besides, it was out of desperation to stop Onaga, that's why it was self-destructive. Chun-Li probably would have died without even doing much damage.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh so now you concede the endings aren't canon. K.
Oh quit babbling like a moron Quan, I never conceded anything because I never damn well claimed anything. My report shall be filed with the mods thusly, as you have now proven you are outright trolling.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I am debating why I feel Mk wins you are acting like it's already been decided street fighter wins and that debate is pointless because the majority here have already decided. Either prove it or concede.
I did not say who would win in any post Quan.
You have proven nothing anyway.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I did that in one post to show you the utter folly and horrible logic that it's in his abilities to do so despite it never occurring canonically.
No, your trying to snipe legitimate feats, and you showing endings that are non-canon to the MK's main story arcs prove nothing but your own hypocricy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Insults won't hide the fact you have only speculated his ending is canon.
No, I highlighted a deficiency in your posting. Ryu's ending being the cornerstone of post Alpha 2 story advancement is a well known and established fact as alluded to in Street Fighter Eternal and All About Capcom.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So every attack in the new upcoming dl content will be a multi psi attack. I look forward to proving you wrong when I play against other fighters as him as he won't be oneshotting anyone.
Do you even know what PSI means in the context of this discussion Quan?
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's in the story mode of the newest mk. At the end of the game he kills Raiden and during the initial events of mk 3 the invasion he kills Motaro in the latest one.
Ok, now back it up with proof, and I mean the same proof your demaning from us, youtube clips are not confirmation of canon BTW, as per your own belated logic dictates.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Which characters has he killed before ?
He killed Bison once, and has killed Gill one, and Goutetsu.
Originally posted by quanchi112
My proof is in story mode. Not my fault you didn't do your leg work.
No, your demanding links and other stuff from me, now why don't you lead by example and provide me official statements and links like your asking, otherwise it's your speculation and I can disreguard it according to Quan logic...
See, it hurts to be beaten by your own hypocricy doesn't it?
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroGo ahead and report me while bashing yourself along with it. When you claim akuma has island busting feats that's called a claim. I'd like to see proof of his endings being canon.
Oh quit babbling like a moron Quan, I never conceded anything because I never damn well claimed anything. My report shall be filed with the mods thusly, as you have now proven you are outright trolling.I did not say who would win in any post Quan.
You have proven nothing anyway.
No, your trying to snipe legitimate feats, and you showing endings that are non-canon to the MK's main story arcs prove nothing but your own hypocricy.
No, I highlighted a deficiency in your posting. Ryu's ending being the cornerstone of post Alpha 2 story advancement is a well known and established fact as alluded to in Street Fighter Eternal and All About Capcom.
Do you even know what PSI means in the context of this discussion Quan?
Ok, now back it up with proof, and I mean the same proof your demaning from us, youtube clips are not confirmation of canon BTW, as per your own belated logic dictates.
He killed Bison once, and has killed Gill one, and Goutetsu.
No, your demanding links and other stuff from me, now why don't you lead by example and provide me official statements and links like your asking, otherwise it's your speculation and I can disreguard it according to Quan logic...
See, it hurts to be beaten by your own hypocricy doesn't it?
Drop the tude, please.
I mentioned in one post that all endings with Shao Kahn in them are game according to your logic that it's within the character's abilities. I never once used these feats as a legitimate argument. I only used feats kahn performed due to continuity from past games or in this one. Your lack of comprehending my actual argument is evident.
If it's well known and accepted as canon then prove it. I don't care if many agree it's this simple can you prove it or can't you ?
Yes.
Youtube clips are forms of proof if they occur within the game. the difference between my points and yours are mine occur in game openings/endings(how they establish the previous games' ending) and in the official story mode which is in continuity from the game. I am not searching for stuff from shao Kahn endings from previous mk games as my only source of proof. I don't even use any of his endings unlike you.
Ok, in which game did he kill Bison ? How do you know this ? This is game only version not any anime.
I already explained story mode is different than a characters ending. This is what happens there's no changing the result of what occurs in story mode but in ladder mode you can have any character win but that doesn't make their ending canon despite your attempts to break the rules with Akuma in that regard.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Go ahead and report me while bashing yourself along with it. When you claim akuma has island busting feats that's called a claim. I'd like to see proof of his endings being canon.Drop the tude, please.
And I would like to see proof that you have more than the IQ of a can of pork and beans. I say this because I have already reffereced the souce material 4 goddamn times in these 2 threads alone, nevermind the countless times over the years.
Akuma does have that capability as demonstrated in Ryu's ending and every story cinematic he has featured in ever since.
Drop the ability to both suck and blow at the same time and we can deal.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I mentioned in one post that all endings with Shao Kahn in them are game according to your logic that it's within the character's abilities. I never once used these feats as a legitimate argument. I only used feats kahn performed due to continuity from past games or in this one. Your lack of comprehending my actual argument is evident.
My logic? I ask again, where you pulled that erogenous lump of shit from. Wait a minute... GET YOUR HANDS OUT OF YOUR ASS!
Your lack of argument altogether is the problem, and then having the cheek to demand proof from others compounds your moronic stance on the issue.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If it's well known and accepted as canon then prove it. I don't care if many agree it's this simple can you prove it or can't you ?
....... READ MY POSTS YOU GODDAMN LIAR!
4 times... 4 damn times I told you to go read AAC and SFEC you blind dense person...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes.
Amuse me then, what do you think it is?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Youtube clips are forms of proof if they occur within the game. the difference between my points and yours are mine occur in game openings/endings and in the official story mode which is game from the game. I am not searching for stuff from shao Kahn endings from previous mk games as my only source of proof. I don't even use any of his endings unlike you.
The very same thing I damn well posted, a youtube vid of Ryu's ending in A2. I don't care if you use shitty toilet paper, proof is proof, and if it's backed up by statements such as those in-game and by announcements by the developers in SFEC and AAC, then your position has hit the shitpipes faster than that paper mate.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, in which game did he kill Bison ? How do you know this ? This is game only version not any anime.
SF2. because it was alluded to in every game since. and yes, you see it quite clearly before you fight Gouki.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I already explained story mode is different than a characters ending. This is what happens there's no changing the result of what occurs in story mode but in ladder mode you can have any character win but that doesn't make their ending canon despite your attempts to break the rules with Akuma in that regard.
Right, so a game that doesn't have a campaign mode suddenly is non-canon to it's own story in your eyes Quan? My god, thats even more retarded than the crap Addy or gear ever coughed up. I now see why others have real difficulty in dealing with you, your just that "Special".
Calm down DSZ, quan is just having some fun...
Originally posted by Bro SMASHRyu beat Akuma?
And Akuma couldn't beat Ryu.Shao Kahn would trash him hard. 🙄
No it's not. Chun-Li's explosion wasn't even on the same level as Raiden's.
Besides, it was out of desperation to stop Onaga, that's why it was self-destructive. Chun-Li probably would have died without even doing much damage.
Ryu is far more impressive than Liu Lame.
Please control yourself this is a debate over fictional characters. I don't insult your intelligence so please respect the difference of opinion and debate respectfully.
By that same logic all of the mk fighters have the abilities for their endings as well but if it doesn't occur it's not canon but still a possible outcome. I do agree Akuma is one of street fighters stronger/more skilled fighters but he isn't punching people with island shattering attacks. The even thought of it is completely ridiculous.
I already have an argument you just because so obsessed when I tried using noncanon ending as well since you seem to think "Akuma" is special but don't you dare use the same criteria for mk it's not allowed.
Then link me and I will do so. I don't want to go on an internet search and never find this supposed proof just link me and we can move on from there.
Try and be serious for a moment and stick to the debate.
If I post an ending from raiden in ladder mode that doesn't make it canon just like a ryu ending isn't canon unless mentioned in the following game's sequence of events.
From what I remember he just tossed him or beat him. Does it ever state or show Bison's death ?
The game has to make clear what's canon you don't need a story mode as mk didn't have one for many games but made it clear with a sequel how the previous one ended.
There's no need for insulting to get your points across. I simply love to debate and if you get frustrated then just walk away. I;m honestly arguing like I always do and am making legitimate points about endings anyways.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Please control yourself this is a debate over fictional characters. I don't insult your intelligence so please respect the difference of opinion and debate respectfully.
Difference of oppinion? You railroaded this debate with stalling tactics and failing to provide the same level of evidence you demand, and you wanna talk about respect?
Originally posted by quanchi112
By that same logic all of the mk fighters have the abilities for their endings as well but if it doesn't occur it's not canon but still a possible outcome. I do agree Akuma is one of street fighters stronger/more skilled fighters but he isn't punching people with island shattering attacks. The even thought of it is completely ridiculous.
No, the logic is entirely different Quan. I use known plot chain of events which substatiate the feat. What you just said implies that every character killed Bison, or killed Seth or defeated Gill. Not once did I say this was true or what actually happened. I TOLD you, follow the chain of events.
Why is it ridiculous?
Originally posted by quanchi112
I already have an argument you just because so obsessed when I tried using noncanon ending as well since you seem to think "Akuma" is special but don't you dare use the same criteria for mk it's not allowed.
See, this is pissing me off right here. WE OUTRIGHT TOLD YOU IT'S CANON AND PROVIDED SOURCES AS WELL AS INGAME EVIDENCE! Your the one railroading this and trying to snipe legitimate endings to suit yourself.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then link me and I will do so. I don't want to go on an internet search and never find this supposed proof just link me and we can move on from there.
Paper medium mate, you have to buy it, they are sourcebooks.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Try and be serious for a moment and stick to the debate.
I would if you would stop trolling.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If I post an ending from raiden in ladder mode that doesn't make it canon just like a ryu ending isn't canon unless mentioned in the following game's sequence of events.
Which it has been, in every game since the Satsui No Hadou was introduced as a story arc
Originally posted by quanchi112
From what I remember he just tossed him or beat him. Does it ever state or show Bison's death ?
Yes, he used the Shun Goku Satsu. He didn't throw or beat him up, it was a single move, and he killed Bison with it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The game has to make clear what's canon you don't need a story mode as mk didn't have one for many games but made it clear with a sequel how the previous one ended.
Which is exactly what SFer does. You not bothering to research is taking it's toll on you.
Originally posted by quanchi112
There's no need for insulting to get your points across. I simply love to debate and if you get frustrated then just walk away. I;m honestly arguing like I always do and am making legitimate points about endings anyways.
There has not been a legitimate thing you've said since the OP Quan... All you have done is snipe and troll. And you doing so while trying to dictate terms and debate at the same time is frankly aggrivating.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroI've already explained the differences in what I have offered as proof and what you have offered as proof.
Difference of oppinion? You railroaded this debate with stalling tactics and failing to provide the same level of evidence you demand, and you wanna talk about respect?No, the logic is entirely different Quan. I use known plot chain of events which substatiate the feat. What you just said implies that every character killed Bison, or killed Seth or defeated Gill. Not once did I say this was true or what actually happened. I TOLD you, follow the chain of events.
Why is it ridiculous?
See, this is pissing me off right here. WE OUTRIGHT TOLD YOU IT'S CANON AND PROVIDED SOURCES AS WELL AS INGAME EVIDENCE! Your the one railroading this and trying to snipe legitimate endings to suit yourself.
Paper medium mate, you have to buy it, they are sourcebooks.
I would if you would stop trolling.
Which it has been, in every game since the Satsui No Hadou was introduced as a story arc
Yes, he used the Shun Goku Satsu. He didn't throw or beat him up, it was a single move, and he killed Bison with it.
Which is exactly what SFer does. You not bothering to research is taking it's toll on you.
There has not been a legitimate thing you've said since the OP Quan... All you have done is snipe and troll. And you doing so while trying to dictate terms and debate at the same time is frankly aggrivating.
Like I said even though it stands to reason that is most likely what has occurred we don't take Liu Kang's endings as 100 percent factual despite him winning 4 tournaments. This has derailed the thread enough let's just assume for the sake of argument Akuma's endings stand what does it really prove anyways ?
Akuma doesn't win the tournament so why are his endings canon ?
These books have to be online somewhere.
I am not trolling this is how I debate. I challenge everything you know and make you doubt yourself. That's what it takes to face Quan. Now aside from the joking let's continue this charade.
I have part four when does it establish what happened in the previous game in part 4 ? What am I missing ?
So the game makes it clear he's dead or does he just look ko'd ?
Playing sf4 I see no real references in the game for how the other one ended.
Not trying to troll I debate mainly off of portrayals, abilities, with minor feat wanking here and there.
Let's just assume Akuma's endings count what does it really prove.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I've already explained the differences in what I have offered as proof and what you have offered as proof.
And what you explained was a huge steaming pile of crap.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Like I said even though it stands to reason that is most likely what has occurred we don't take Liu Kang's endings as 100 percent factual despite him winning 4 tournaments. This has derailed the thread enough let's just assume for the sake of argument Akuma's endings stand what does it really prove anyways ?
First, it was Ryu's ending, not Akuma's. Second, it proves that Akuma physically is beyond his competition by several orders of magnitude.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Akuma doesn't win the tournament so why are his endings canon ?
The feat was in Ryu's ending Quan...
Originally posted by quanchi112
These books have to be online somewhere.
Really? Why is that?
3 seconds of googling it....
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not trolling this is how I debate. I challenge everything you know and make you doubt yourself. That's what it takes to face Quan. Now aside from the joking let's continue this charade.
So essentially, your admitting to trolling on purpose...
Originally posted by quanchi112
I have part four when does it establish what happened in the previous game in part 4 ? What am I missing ?
Bison's resurrection, Charlie's death, Akuma still trying to force Ryu into using the Satsui No Hadou... Basically everyone who didn't debut in SF4 has the backstory in their intro.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So the game makes it clear he's dead or does he just look ko'd ?
Bison requiring a new body to revive does not make this clear enough for you?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Playing sf4 I see no real references in the game for how the other one ended.
Then you need glasses stronger tha the ones I wear....
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not trying to troll I debate mainly off of portrayals, abilities, with minor feat wanking here and there.
I already explained what you where actually doing. And if portraylas are a part of your debating strategy, then why the unrealistic level of expectation of proof reguarding a well known cornerstone of SFer plot?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Let's just assume Akuma's endings count what does it really prove.
It was not Akuma's ending, it was Ryu's...
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroYou tried but failed.
And what you explained was a huge steaming pile of crap.First, it was Ryu's ending, not Akuma's. Second, it proves that Akuma physically is beyond his competition by several orders of magnitude.
The feat was in Ryu's ending Quan...
Really? Why is that?
3 seconds of googling it....
So essentially, your admitting to trolling on purpose...
Bison's resurrection, Charlie's death, Akuma still trying to force Ryu into using the Satsui No Hadou... Basically everyone who didn't debut in SF4 has the backstory in their intro.
Bison requiring a new body to revive does not make this clear enough for you?
Then you need glasses stronger tha the ones I wear....
I already explained what you where actually doing. And if portraylas are a part of your debating strategy, then why the unrealistic level of expectation of proof reguarding a well known cornerstone of SFer plot?
It was not Akuma's ending, it was Ryu's...
He may be stronger than his competition but he's not unbeatable and at no point is he channeling this amount of power in a vs. match in street fighter or is he portrayed as such.
Did Ryu win that tournament ?
Are these 100 percent canon to the games ?
No, I was joking and even told you as much. Let go of this internet hatred.
Bison creates alternate bodies but I can pop it back in I don't remember him being rezzed.
I thought Bison always made replacement bodies in the chance he needs one.
They each have opening movies but they don't really tell me how it ended.
Because it's the same proof I use for mk and I always have thought the feat type debating is dismissing 99 percent of the portrayal of the character throughout the game.
K.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I challenge everything you know and make you doubt yourself. That's what it takes to face Quan.
LOL, That was good!
The little troll had a delirium of omnipotence!
Originally posted by quanchi112
Did Ryu win that tournament ?
Since SF Alpha was NOT a tournament, Ryu couldn't have won a non-existing tournament. And, for the 1000th time, anyone with a basic knowledge of SF would know that in the 3 SF Alpha games there's no tournament (yay, quanchi112 gave us "PROOF" that he doesn't know anything about SF storyline).
Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't remember him being rezzed.
About Dictator being rezzed. He was rezzed TWICE: between SF Alpha 3 and SF 2, and between SF 2 and SF 4 (hell, just look at his SF 4 cinematic intro: that WAS "Dictator got rezzed by technology"😉.
Originally posted by Meioh_HadesSays the guy who responds to an earlier quote to stir something up.
LOL, That was good!The little troll had a delirium of omnipotence!
Since SF Alpha was NOT a tournament, Ryu couldn't have won a non-existing tournament. And, for the 1000th time, anyone with a basic knowledge of SF would know that in the 3 SF Alpha games there's no tournament (yay, quanchi112 gave us "PROOF" that he doesn't know anything about SF storyline).
About Dictator being rezzed. He was rezzed TWICE: between SF Alpha 3 and SF 2, and between SF 2 and SF 4 (hell, just look at his SF 4 cinematic intro: that WAS "Dictator got rezzed by technology"😉.
Yes, I get that there have only been tournaments basically for true sequels I just meant part 3 you silly goose.
I will have to rewatch the opening cinema as I don't recall it off hand.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You tried but failed.
😆 Your delusions are getting worse.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He may be stronger than his competition but he's not unbeatable and at no point is he channeling this amount of power in a vs. match in street fighter or is he portrayed as such.
I didn't claim he is unbeatable. However, it's up to you to prove that Shao Kahn can actually withstand such attacks. And Akuma does portray this power, repeatedly when Game Restrictions are not in place. Which is the defeault setting of any theoretical debate, because game mechanics eschew how a battle would truly play out.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Did Ryu win that tournament ?
Alpha 2 was not a tournament.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Are these 100 percent canon to the games ?
They show what canonically happens within the story setting of Street Fighter as per word of god (AKA the game developers.)
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I was joking and even told you as much. Let go of this internet hatred.
How do you expect me to act when you come up with lines like the one I quoted at the top of this post?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Bison creates alternate bodies but I can pop it back in I don't remember him being rezzed.
On 2 separate occasions has Bison had to actually use an alternate body, and Gouki was responsable for the death of SF2 Bison, hence why Bison's opening cinematic has bim being revived in a new body in SF4
Originally posted by quanchi112
I thought Bison always made replacement bodies in the chance he needs one.
He did, but has only ever rezzed into a new body twice canonically, once after A3 and once after SF2
Originally posted by quanchi112
They each have opening movies but they don't really tell me how it ended.
Then read the books I mentioned, or even *Shudders* Read Tiamat's plot guide on Game FAQS... (I'm going to regret that...)
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because it's the same proof I use for mk and I always have thought the feat type debating is dismissing 99 percent of the portrayal of the character throughout the game.
Feats are a fairly accurate way to guage a characters capability though, portrayals only tell part of a characters overall capability. Feat Schewing does even more to damage to this complete picture. Besides, Mortal Kombats Canon policy is different from Street Fighters, you cannot disreguard canon policy set by the game developers because a different company has a different canon policy.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroMy thinking is level headed and quite logical.
😆 Your delusions are getting worse.I didn't claim he is unbeatable. However, it's up to you to prove that Shao Kahn can actually withstand such attacks. And Akuma does portray this power, repeatedly when Game Restrictions are not in place. Which is the defeault setting of any theoretical debate, because game mechanics eschew how a battle would truly play out.
Alpha 2 was not a tournament.
They show what canonically happens within the story setting of Street Fighter as per word of god (AKA the game developers.)
How do you expect me to act when you come up with lines like the one I quoted at the top of this post?
On 2 separate occasions has Bison had to actually use an alternate body, and Gouki was responsable for the death of SF2 Bison, hence why Bison's opening cinematic has bim being revived in a new body in SF4
He did, but has only ever rezzed into a new body twice canonically, once after A3 and once after SF2
Then read the books I mentioned, or even *Shudders* Read Tiamat's plot guide on Game FAQS... (I'm going to regret that...)
Feats are a fairly accurate way to guage a characters capability though, portrayals only tell part of a characters overall capability. Feat Schewing does even more to damage to this complete picture. Besides, Mortal Kombats Canon policy is different from Street Fighters, you cannot disreguard canon policy set by the game developers because a different company has a different canon policy.
You don't use feats like so to debate or I can do just the same as Shao Kahn has shown the ability to soul steal from a safe distance away. When has Akuma shown the ability the protect against this attack ?
When has Akuma ever killed someone with an island busting attack ?
It's like me running around since Shang Tsung downed a chopper with one fireball and screaming Johnny Cage is more durable than a chopper.
Part 3.
But where does it state this those books you linked me to ?
I expect you to control yourself and act accordingly.
I will rewatch it later.
I can probably find the books for free somewhere but I hope it mentioned they are canon in there.
Not trying to disregard it just making it clear an ending from a previous game isn't canon unless the game developers make it evident in the next one or clarify it in some other fashion.
Originally posted by quanchi112
My thinking is level headed and quite logical.
Oh right, that why you resorted to trying to cheapshot and destroy credibility instead of actually providing evidence.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't use feats like so to debate or I can do just the same as Shao Kahn has shown the ability to soul steal from a safe distance away. When has Akuma shown the ability the protect against this attack ?
When has Kahn canonically ever done this? It didn't work on Stryker, who'se only claim to defence was a strong warriors spirit, of which Akuma and most SFers have in spades.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When has Akuma ever killed someone with an island busting attack ?
Uh, never?
That however is beside the point, almost all opponents who fell to Gouki ave been due to SGS. Does that mean we disreguard the feat of him sinking the island altogether? thats retarded.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's like me running around since Shang Tsung downed a chopper with one fireball and screaming Johnny Cage is more durable than a chopper.
Cage probably is, considering he survived worse. That still doesn't detract from the feat we are discussing does it?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Part 3.
We're not talking about SF3.
Originally posted by quanchi112
But where does it state this those books you linked me to ?
In the character profile sections...
Originally posted by quanchi112
I expect you to control yourself and act accordingly.
Don't type stull that makes me roll my eyes at their audacity and lack of general knowlege and I wouldn't have to babysit you through absolutely everything.
BTW, you still have not answered my earlier question, why didn;t you do your research as the OP of these threads? And while we are on the subject of OP, why didn't you describe the scenarios in the OP as per forum rules? Peach went into great length about not throwing a vs debate together simply by stating "Who Wins".
Originally posted by quanchi112
I will rewatch it later.
Good.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I can probably find the books for free somewhere but I hope it mentioned they are canon in there.
Read the disclaimers and the interviews at the back of the books, then read the information in the character profile sections, and then read it cover to cover.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not trying to disregard it just making it clear an ending from a previous game isn't canon unless the game developers make it evident in the next one or clarify it in some other fashion.
Which it has, many times over. Most endings are not official, but using your brain and the information we have provided, you can see what happens via Chain Of Events, and when the next game comes out, plotpoints are easily established both in game, and in the sequels. SFA2 has had... what 4 official sequels now?
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroI did provide evidence and canon events in mk. Yours is still mainly a theory.
Oh right, that why you resorted to trying to cheapshot and destroy credibility instead of actually providing evidence.When has Kahn canonically ever done this? It didn't work on Stryker, who'se only claim to defence was a strong warriors spirit, of which Akuma and most SFers have in spades.
Uh, never?
That however is beside the point, almost all opponents who fell to Gouki ave been due to SGS. Does that mean we disreguard the feat of him sinking the island altogether? thats retarded.
Cage probably is, considering he survived worse. That still doesn't detract from the feat we are discussing does it?
We're not talking about SF3.
In the character profile sections...
Don't type stull that makes me roll my eyes at their audacity and lack of general knowlege and I wouldn't have to babysit you through absolutely everything.
BTW, you still have not answered my earlier question, why didn;t you do your research as the OP of these threads? And while we are on the subject of OP, why didn't you describe the scenarios in the OP as per forum rules? Peach went into great length about not throwing a vs debate together simply by stating "Who Wins".
Good.
Read the disclaimers and the interviews at the back of the books, then read the information in the character profile sections, and then read it cover to cover.
Which it has, many times over. Most endings are not official, but using your brain and the information we have provided, you can see what happens via Chain Of Events, and when the next game comes out, plotpoints are easily established both in game, and in the sequels. SFA2 has had... what 4 official sequels now?
He did so in the latest game on Shang Tsung. He didn't specifically seek out Stryker it was mainly an attack that decimated the population whereas he used it right on Shang to take his soul.
The feat is about as consistent as Shang's fireball downing a chopper. It's nice window dressing but not something to take seriously in a vs. debate.
Most feats don't link up with the games and are inconsistent.
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I've been here before and I don't recall this.
Still not definitively proven just likely to have occurred or something similar.