IIRC in MK1 intro Goro is stated to be 2,000 years old.
Since Shao Kahn conquest of Edenia was about 10,000 years ago, Goro couldn't be the MK champion.
Maybe it was Shao Kahn himself who won 10 MK tournaments in a row, and was able to conquer Edenia.
In MK 2011 we discovered that Sindel committed suicide to prevent Shao Kahn to prevent Shao Kahn to set foot on Earthrealm. Maybe that also prevented Shao Kahn himself to compete in MK tournaments held in Earthrealm.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroIrrelevant as we know Goro's reign is the longest we know which is a fact at this point.
I'm not entirely sure about that either. It's unknown who won the Edenia MKs for Outworld, but I would assume that Goro would be too young at the time, so someone had to have had 1 more MK Belt total than Goro's reign.
IIRC, Shang Tsung's reign (during his original youth) was as long as Goro's. He won 9 MK tournaments (needing just one more victory for Shao Kahn to take over earthrealm), but was defeated by the Great Kung Lao. On that same token, Goro won 9 tournaments when Tsung was hosting them (after the death of Great Kung Lao) but was then defeated by Liu Lame on the 10th. Thus earthrealm was saved by the skin of its teeth once more..
Don't know what y'all are trying to get at with any of this though. Doesn't exactly change the outcome of who would win in this match between Akuma and Shao Kahn.
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeWhen was this stated that Shang Tsung won 9 tourneys ?
IIRC, Shang Tsung's reign (during his original youth) was as long as Goro's. He won 9 MK tournaments (needing just one more victory for Shao Kahn to take over earthrealm), but was defeated by the Great Kung Lao. On that same token, Goro won 9 tournaments when Tsung was hosting them (after the death of Great Kung Lao) but was then defeated by Liu Lame on the 10th. Thus earthrealm was saved by the skin of its teeth once more..Don't know what y'all are trying to get at with any of this though. Doesn't exactly change the outcome of who would win in this match between Akuma and Shao Kahn.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroWhose reign was longer ?
If we know it for a fact, and we know Goro's reign did end up with Earths conquest, then no, Goro's reign was not the longest. Maybe for Earth MKs it is, but it's not THE longest.
Edenia lost ten MK tournaments against Outworld, enabling Shao Kahn to invade and conquer Edenia.
We don't know who was the MK Champion for the "Outworld vs Edenia" MK tournaments, but if is the same fighter (IMHO it could have been Shao Kahn himself), it must have won 10 tournaments. So a longer streak than Goro.
Originally posted by Meioh_HadesThat's why I said the longest reigning mk champion we know of. You speculate which means you don't know.
Edenia lost ten MK tournaments against Outworld, enabling Shao Kahn to invade and conquer Edenia.We don't know who was the MK Champion for the "Outworld vs Edenia" MK tournaments, but if is the same fighter (IMHO it could have been Shao Kahn himself), it must have won 10 tournaments. So a longer streak than Goro.
No one knows really.. But who cares? What was the outcome who can beat who? I'd say since shao kahn is more adept in the black arts (black magic) he can pull some weird crap out of his ass... Does some pretty powerful crap too (not strength feat wise more like supernatural soul ripping related stuff) and is said to be on par with raiden if i remember correctly...
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
But Akuma has a soul "Destroying" attack, something Kahn does not have.
True, though kahn opened up a portal, invaded earthrealm, (defying the rules) and in trilogy netherrealm (which explains scorpion and noob saibot) and started ripping people's souls out.. Millions of them... Something i've yet to see akuma do...
Slightest bit of resistance huh? well i mean sure.. So how long did the ''ritual'' take? Still whether he can do a ''mass soul steal'' or not quickly, is an unanswered question... But kahn like shang tsung can steal souls out of people (yes i know, only if he defeats them..) but he's got the battle experience, sorcery exp., and possibly same strength... So like i've read before, kahn's had his losses and wins but regardless... He's strong.... Not as strong as akuma (physically) but in other feats (supernatural and magical) pretty impressive... It's why he's a boss character....
Originally posted by cdtm
Well, the basis of MK9 is Shao Kahn killing him in combat, forcing him to contact his past self with important information before he died, right?
I think you're right... So with THAT said... It just goes to show that shao kahn can take on and beat raiden, so he must be pretty strong.. Raiden's a thunder god...
It doesn't? Oh well aren't we all just mistaken then?? 😛 and sure it might be just a ''title'' but we should remember raiden imprisoned shinnok (who carries the title of a god but it's only a title apparantley) for about thousands of years... Not only that he's pretty much immortal (since he just reconstructs himself on earth once he's dead or whatever) and sure shao kahn had to fight against blaze and his ''godlike powers'' but he still managed to beat him... I forget whether it's before or after he fights raiden, but anyway, he's obviously able to go toe to toe with very strong opponents, i think he'd be able to hold his own (physically) against akuma...
I didn't say that the title itself was wrong, but your correlating it with some added ability... is Gill a "God?" Is Galactus a "God?" No? Well what abut those "Gods" Kratos fights? "Gods" and "Devils" being defeated by mortals in fiction proves that the title of God is just that, a title. It's used more as a descriptor, or a self claimed title than actually meaning anything in it's own right.
The only actual gods are the ones with TRUE Omnipotence, Omniscience, are Omnipresent, and cannot be destroyed by any means. THAT is what a God is, and not some superpowered being who functions barely at the level of metahumans at best.