Heihachi vs. Ryu

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
What the living blue hell are you on about now? Not recognised? That one event sparked off Ryu's journey to discover the truth about Satsui No Hadou within himself, which has been his primary story arc throughout the series, including the current SF4... This one event in A2, his fight with Gouki, thats how he discovered what happened during the fight with Sagat. Gouki's demonstration of the Satsui No Hadou's potential is what caused him to question his path, and lead to him losing later matches in the same game to Ken and Sagat.

Geez, the very fact that I have to BABYSTEP you through this is attrocious Quan.

True, but you picking and choosing what is conveniant despite being told what the actual chain of events are is despicable on your part Quan.

I never said all endings are canon... Name me ione time I have said as such please.

And while your at it do some goddamn research on Street fighters plot if you EVER plan on debating it. otherwise kindly leave it alone, as ignorance is no excuse for what you did.

You are just speculating though. You do seem to have a point but I don't see any solid factual data.

I know you didn't say all endings are canon which makes it worse you want to pick and choose which ones count.

I've just simply asked for proof not speculation.

Originally posted by Ban Mido
I see Heihachi as a great fighter and I truly respect him and how many times he's avoided death, he's actually one of my top 3 favorite Tekken characters but on that note I just can't see him taking Ryu :/... Although from reading everything that's been going on I'm surprised someone hasn't been like "Heihachi would just sidestep the HadouCAN'T and punish him..Ryu can only move two ways ;P" x]

😂

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Nobody directly.

You must have never read my profile. I used to get into it quite a bit back in the day, ask Darkstorm.

To the point where members made illegal threads just to display their hatred for you. 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then when is it mentioned ? Him having doubts about himself doesn't have to sync up with an ending or that sequence of events. This has been my entire point that despite Liu's victories his endings aren't always canon from the games.

HE MENTIONS IT TO KEN AND SAGAT! for ****s sake Quan, GO AND RESEARCH! I am not walking you through the goddamn proccess that you SHOULD HAVE DONE AS THE MAKER OF THESE TWO THREADS!

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are just speculating though. You do seem to have a point but I don't see any solid factual data.

How the hell is it speculation on my part when it's back by in-game evidence and developers word?! See, this is what I'm saying, unrealistic expectation of proof. You have the video, you have the chain of events, you have the proof, I'm not combing the internet to give you a blow-by-blow signed afidavit that is legally binding from Capcom.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I know you didn't say all endings are canon which makes it worse you want to pick and choose which ones count.

*Bangs head on desk repeatedly*

And you wonder why I give you the flame stick.... I DID NOT PICK AND CHOOSE THE ENDING!!! IT IS A CORNERSTONE TO THE CHAN OF EVENTS!!! Apparently you cannot put 2 and 2 together....

Originally posted by quanchi112
I've just simply asked for proof not speculation.

No, you've asked for an unrealistic level of proof because you don;t want to use your brain.

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It truly seems like you're arguing with a child, DSZ......Or a clown. I really don't understand what he's asking from you.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
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It truly seems like you're arguing with a child, DSZ......Or a clown. I really don't understand what he's asking from you.

I see...mmm

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
😂

To the point where members made illegal threads just to display their hatred for you. 😆

to-dsz
overrated in terms of ,sorry but i dont read shitty fighting games comics,especially capcom ones,but i like the games
and so to see akuma doing stuff like this ,without any logical reasons
i mean cmon, a red head black african skin japanese guy.
im not hates or noob but its very funny

What is this I don't even...

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Originally posted by samirerre
to-dsz
overrated in terms of ,sorry but i dont read shitty fighting games comics,especially capcom ones,but i like the games
and so to see akuma doing stuff like this ,without any logical reasons
i mean cmon, a red head black african skin japanese guy.
im not hates or noob but its very funny

*Shrugs*

Your oppinion kid, but it does make you a hater, and an uninformed one at that.

If you do not like Street Fighter, then why do you debate in threads involving them?

And you still have not explained what you mean by overrated, if this above is your reason, then it is oppinionated and biased.

People wonder why I say there are racists on this board lol.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Not at all, because there are different types of damage. There's blunt, piercing, slashing, energy, etc.

Ryu has taken hits from all types of damage from high end characters and has been fine. Akuma wasn't in his Shin form but he only fights those who are worthy and he doesn't hit that lightly. They are rivals of sorts after all. It's not like people throw islands at each other in the game. But was the punch Akuma did casual? Yes, and unless you can find something to go against the canon source material (you can't) then you have no point. SF characters are on average more powerful. Don't be a fanboy. What have they done in canon that could surpass regular Akuma? Much less Shin or Oni?

Don't debate characters you're ignorant about.

So show me all those types of damage that Ryu has taken?

You keep saying Akuma's punch was casual and still have yet to prove it, just like you did just now. And I know you yourself can't find not one canon source that said that Ryu took an island-destroying punch from Akuma because it's obvious that it doesn't exist. So really, you got no business talking about canon sources.

Just look at the SFIV fight between Ryu and Akuma. Those definitely weren't island-destroying punches he was using against Ryu. So give me one good reason why he would punch like that in one fight against Ryu and not in another one?

What SF4 fight against Ryu?

Originally posted by Bro SMASH
So show me all those types of damage that Ryu has taken?

You keep saying Akuma's punch was casual and still have yet to prove it, just like you did just now. And I know you yourself can't find not one canon source that said that Ryu took an island-destroying punch from Akuma because it's obvious that it doesn't exist. So really, you got no business talking about canon sources.

Just look at the SFIV fight between Ryu and Akuma. Those definitely weren't island-destroying punches he was using against Ryu. So give me one good reason why he would punch like that in one fight against Ryu and not in another one?

Because he wasn't at full power. Learn about the character.

Based off of what?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
HE MENTIONS IT TO KEN AND SAGAT! for ****s sake Quan, GO AND RESEARCH! I am not walking you through the goddamn proccess that you SHOULD HAVE DONE AS THE MAKER OF THESE TWO THREADS!

How the hell is it speculation on my part when it's back by in-game evidence and developers word?! See, this is what I'm saying, unrealistic expectation of proof. You have the video, you have the chain of events, you have the proof, I'm not combing the internet to give you a blow-by-blow signed afidavit that is legally binding from Capcom.

*Bangs head on desk repeatedly*

And you wonder why I give you the flame stick.... I DID NOT PICK AND CHOOSE THE ENDING!!! IT IS A CORNERSTONE TO THE CHAN OF EVENTS!!! Apparently you cannot put 2 and 2 together....

No, you've asked for an unrealistic level of proof because you don;t want to use your brain.

You've told me to purchase some kind of canon street fighter books but that's neither here nor there with this particular thread so let's just leave the mk vs. sf debate for the other thread.

I've already explained myself with this a few times over and allowing it to leak into a thread minus a mk fighter isn't helping anyone out.

I just wanted direct confirmation is all. If the end result is 4 there are a lot more ways to 4 then just 2+2.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
What SF4 fight against Ryu?

The anime fight scene.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea, I'm not about to prove that Ryu has been cut, punched, sliced, and hit by energy attacks. That's general knowledge.

Because he wasn't at full power. Learn about the character.

Based off of what?

These are all rather poor responses.. It's "general knowledge" so you're not gonna prove it? That's a really weak excuse.

Just because he wasn't at full power, doesn't mean it was a casual punch. Besides, it's already said that he doesn't go all out in his FIGHTS.

What do you mean "based off of what"?

??? Which one because I don't recall ever watching them duke it out. All I remember is Ryu laying flat on his ass and Gouken somehow removing the Satsui No Hadou from Ryu and Akuma getting his panties in a bunch.

I don't know what he's talking about off of the top of my head.

Originally posted by Bro SMASH
The anime fight scene.

These are all rather poor responses.. It's "general knowledge" so you're not gonna prove it? That's a really weak excuse.

Just because he wasn't at full power, doesn't mean it was a casual punch. Besides, it's already said that he doesn't go all out in his FIGHTS.

What do you mean "based off of what"?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
??? Which one because I don't recall ever watching them duke it out. All I remember is Ryu laying flat on his ass and Gouken somehow removing the Satsui No Hadou from Ryu and Akuma getting his panties in a bunch.

...😐 I'm talking about this video right here, dude:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfxVKlRUjJg

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I don't know what he's talking about off of the top of my head.

It's not an excuse. When I say casual I mean it didn't take him much effort. He wasn't using a special technique, just a normal punch. Does that make sense?

So did he hit Ryu with this "normal punch"?

ohhh that video that made me hyped for the SF4 anime only to find out the thing was shit.

Thanks for ruining my day. over

Is that thing even canon? None of those events are ever mentioned in the game as far as I can tell.