A Magnaguard vs. Darth Nihilus (Sabers only)

Originally posted by RagingBoner
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May the cleansing wrath of Janus and the German purify your tainted sight.

Every discussion I've had with Nai on the subject has ended the same way.

Nai: Surely you agree that it's not out of the question that "ancient sith" would be possible of _____?

Blax: It's not out of the question. It's also not out of the question for me to shoot flames out of my ass and use the thrust to achieve flight, but "it's possible" doesn't mean much in a debate that is based upon substantiation.

And then we fist bump and either agree to disagree or Beefington says something retarded and Nai's focus changes to that.

The argument is based on inference, however; Nihilus has a powerful connection to the Force and so we infer that it would be advantageous in a duel against an opponent that may have superior skill.

On the other hand, Kas'im's technical skill was sufficient to dominate Bane, despite the latter's vastly superior Force strength. So we also have precedence that might allow a MagnaGuard to defeat someone of Nihilus's caliber.

Personally, I think Nihilus would stomp the MagnaGuard -- but if we go by combat/dueling feats alone (which is what you seem to suggest), Nihilus loses.

If we go by combat feats alone, we come to the conclusion that we have no way of gauging Nihlius lightsaber ability, because he's never been in a situation in which he's had to put them to the test, therefore at best this can end in a no-contest. Similar to my belief in God, I believe that Nilhius could handily defeat a Magnagaurd. You won't see me provide an actual argument for it, though, because there's none to be had.

Blax
Similar to my belief in God, I believe that Nilhius could handily defeat a Magnagaurd. You won't see me provide an actual argument for it, though, because there's none to be had.

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Blax wins this month's award for Best Point made.

What if Nihilus wielded his lightsaber telekinetically. His Force power should compensate his lack of feats with the lightsaber.

Originally posted by DarknessLover
What if Nihilus wielded his lightsaber telekinetically. His Force power should compensate his lack of feats with the lightsaber.

That'd work if he had shown an understanding of lightsaber combat. Using the force to move around a lightsaber in a coherent manner is far harder than having the saber in your hands and twirling it around. Hence why Traya is zomgawesomesauce because she can levitate 3 and fight reasonably well with them, though this perhaps would come under game mechanics.
Since this is saber combat, I'd probably give this to the MagnaGuard.

Sabers only? You want Nihilus to starve to death? 0_o
Unless, he can somehow get power from drinking strongest beverages of cantina, it's just cruel!

This thread shows how the "comparing feats only" argument to decide who is better is flawed.

Yes going by saber feats only a magnaguard would beat any jedi or sith we haven't seen in a Saber fight, until we see them beat someone.

The way I see it is not only is that an obviously flawed assumption, but I could put that same argument the other way:

Any Jedi or Sith who we have not seen in a Saber fight can beat Mace, Sidious or Yoda in a Saber fight, until we see said Jedi/Sith lose a Saber fight.

See how that works.

Why you, guys, say that Nihilus has no lightsaber feats?
In game on hard mode you constantly need to heal yourself and sometimes swap characters to survive his lightsaber attacks!

Not if you set a half hundred mines up before talking to him and then run back past them. Works every time.

Youtube or GTFO.

Originally posted by Arhael
Why you, guys, say that Nihilus has no lightsaber feats?
In game on hard mode you constantly need to heal yourself and sometimes swap characters to survive his lightsaber attacks!

That game should not have ever been difficult.
[Edit: Except for my plasma torch runthrough, that was fairly difficult.]

DE Sidious fights the Magnaguard and wins with difficulty. 😄

Magnaguard solos Nihilus and Vitiate simultaneously in pure sabers.

A MagnaGuard gave Obi a decent fight.
Better than Nihilus, tbh.

A magnaguard in pure sabers is better than Nihilus, but not Vitiate.

Nah, Nihilus would beat one. Dudes way too powerful.

Ehh, probably. Just trying to highlight that Vitiate can indeed duel. 🙂

It doesn't need highlighting. He did a fancy twirl in Act1.

Ziost tbh. 🙂