Five Revelations About Pandora
Cosmic Zealot?
^ That's what i was thinking. Could that really have been Zealot? What is her mysterious connection to Phantom Stranger? I have no idea who the villains were, but one of them reminded me of Metallo for some odd reason.
Darkseid appeared to be a little stronger than Superman, but then again Kal just got finished getting the probe, so you never know. This title is taking a very nice shape, and the art was amazing.
Originally posted by Stoic
^ That's what i was thinking. Could that really have been Zealot? What is her mysterious connection to Phantom Stranger? I have no idea who the villains were, but one of them reminded me of Metallo for some odd reason.Darkseid appeared to be a little stronger than Superman, but then again Kal just got finished getting the probe, so you never know. This title is taking a very nice shape, and the art was amazing.
Zealot has similar markings on her face, too.
I read that one of the villains might be Ra's Al Ghul.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Zealot has similar markings on her face, too.I read that one of the villains might be Ra's Al Ghul.
Ra's Al Ghul with glowing eyes? Yeah the markings made me think that it was Zealot as well. Maybe they went ahead and fused her with Tapestry? She never had those kinds of powers before, plus she appeared to be in league with angels. It didn't really make much sense to me, so I just let it go. Why the gun, and not the sword though?
Originally posted by Stoic
Ra's Al Ghul with glowing eyes? Yeah the markings made me think that it was Zealot as well. Maybe they went ahead and fused her with Tapestry? She never had those kinds of powers before, plus she appeared to be in league with angels. It didn't really make much sense to me, so I just let it go. Why the gun, and not the sword though?
Or maybe Zealot fused with Void! 😛 I sense a Wildstrom connection somehow, mainly because of her weapons and tactics.
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Action Comics #7
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Originally posted by -Pr-
Next week:Action Comics #7
Animal Man #7
Batman #5 second print
Batwing #7
Beyond the Fringe #1
DC Universe Online Legends #25
Detective Comics #7
Detective Comics #7 variant cover
Green Arrow #7 volume 5
Hawk and Dove #7
Huntress #6
Justice League International #7 volume 2
Men Of War #7
Night Force #1 volume 3
Omac #7
Red Lanterns #7
Static Shock #7 volume 3
Stormwatch #7 volume 5
Stormwatch #7 volume 5 variant cover
Supernatural #6
Swamp Thing #7 volume 4
Swamp Thing #7 volume 4 variant cover
det. comics, action comics, huntress
possibly night force
Originally posted by Galan007
*sighs* Well, it appears that even in the new 52 Darkseid doesn't get his proper respect. I'll now be dropping Justice League.
I don't see how him being portrayed as significantly above all of them combined is not giving him the proper respect.
He:
a). Knocked out all of the Justice League with his initial 'flexing' attack.
b). One beam of his Omega Beams made a mess out of Superman, while Flash barely escaped the other one by being smart.
c). No-sold Hal, then completly destroyed him.
d). Had the same Omega Beams deflected back into his face, and shrugged them off, showing himself ridiculously more durable than Superman.
e). Was stabbed in the eye with Wonder Woman's magical sword and Poseidon's Trident, shrugged it off, and moments later was overpowering her with one hand, while the others stood helpless.
f). Superman had his moment when he took him off Diana but he was too physically overpowered immediately thereafter.
On the other hand, good to see Spectre should make Pandora, the same character who was capable of merging the previous DCU, Vertigo and Wildstorm into one, afraid, and that he is also above the 'Circle of Eternity' of which one member is Phantom Stranger. The 'Higher Authority' mentioned is most likely the DCU 'GOD' - with Phantom Stranger being 'Judas', Pandora being taken literally etc.
And is it just me, or has this brought Final Crisis back into canon, with Superman seeing himself stand against Darkseid as he destroys the Multiverse?
Originally posted by PhilosophíaLike I mentioned earlier: Darkseid fought like a brick. That isn't how he should be fighting.
I don't see how him being portrayed as significantly above all of them combined is not giving him the proper respect.He:
a). Knocked out all of the Justice League with his initial 'flexing' attack.
b). One beam of his Omega Beams made a mess out of Superman, while Flash barely escaped the other one by being smart.
c). No-sold Hal, then completly destroyed him.
d). Had the same Omega Beams deflected back into his face, and shrugged them off, showing himself ridiculously more durable than Superman.
e). Was stabbed in the eye with Wonder Woman's magical sword and Poseidon's Trident, shrugged it off, and moments later was overpowering her with one hand, while the others stood helpless.
f). Superman had his moment when he took him off Diana but he was too physically overpowered immediately thereafter.
My God, we've seen him drop guys like Firestorm, Orion, Superman... The entire JLA... With literal gestures. That said, Darkseid opting to physically battle THIS JLA [on fairly equal footing], before getting BFR'd by them is... Pretty weak imo.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaImo the Pandora/PS/Spectre revelation has made 'the new 52' continuum reversible. Meaning, I think DC could revert back to the previous/post-Flashpoint creation if they wanted to.
On the other hand, good to see Spectre should make Pandora, the same character who was capable of merging the previous DCU, Vertigo and Wildstorm into one, afraid, and that he is also above the 'Circle of Eternity' of which one member is Phantom Stranger. The 'Higher Authority' mentioned is most likely the DCU 'GOD' - with Phantom Stranger being 'Judas', Pandora being taken literally etc.And is it just me, or has this brought Final Crisis back into canon, with Superman seeing himself stand against Darkseid as he destroys the Multiverse?
He wasn't terribly interested in fighting them, until they attacked him, at which point he was mostly "bugs, gtfo".
At no point did it seem that he needed anything else other than physical strength to beat the shit out of them, simultaneously.
The 3 times he used energy attacks he:
a). Knocked the whole Justice League in one attack.
b). Pulverized Superman and had the Flash, with all his speed, barely able to outrace it, with smarts.
c). Had the aforementioned attack deflected back in his face, and went on like nothing happened.
I don't see how Darkseid not even being interested to fighting to his full potential, yet treating them like annoying children until they luckily BFR is a bad showing for him..at all.
On Pandora: Sure, they could write it back, but there's no chance they will, at least for a LONG time.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaJust saying that if we are portraying Darkseid 'correctly', he is a high-order God who thinks physical battles are beneath him--he only resorts to those means when he absolutely HAS to. Otherwise he, almost exclusively, uses energy attacks. He doesn't pop in and start going UFC on everyone right out of the gate. Don't get me wrong, the battle was okay... I just thought it could have been a LOT better.
At no point did it seem that he needed anything else other than physical strength to beat the shit out of them, simultaneously.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaYeah, sales are way too good now... But they've given themselves the option to revert back if they needed to.
On Pandora: Sure, they could write it back, but there's no chance they will, at least for a LONG time.
If you're talking about characterization, I agree, but if we get to that point, then he shouldn't have been there personally in the first place - Kalibak, Mantis or whomever would have been better suited. But as it is, "I am Darkseid, rargh" was pretty much as deep as this would get.
I'm saying that as far as power is concerned - Darkseid was portrayed as really uber, made even moreso by the fact that he was beasting on them without even touching on his myriad of capabilities (which, at the same time, is a mischaracterization). His entrance itself made it clear that once the fight gets there, they'd all be unconconscious or worse.
Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't see how him being portrayed as significantly above all of them combined is not giving him the proper respect.He:
a). Knocked out all of the Justice League with his initial 'flexing' attack.
b). One beam of his Omega Beams made a mess out of Superman, while Flash barely escaped the other one by being smart.
c). No-sold Hal, then completly destroyed him.
d). Had the same Omega Beams deflected back into his face, and shrugged them off, showing himself ridiculously more durable than Superman.
e). Was stabbed in the eye with Wonder Woman's magical sword and Poseidon's Trident, shrugged it off, and moments later was overpowering her with one hand, while the others stood helpless.
f). Superman had his moment when he took him off Diana but he was too physically overpowered immediately thereafter.On the other hand, good to see Spectre should make Pandora, the same character who was capable of merging the previous DCU, Vertigo and Wildstorm into one, afraid, and that he is also above the 'Circle of Eternity' of which one member is Phantom Stranger. The 'Higher Authority' mentioned is most likely the DCU 'GOD' - with Phantom Stranger being 'Judas', Pandora being taken literally etc.
And is it just me, or has this brought Final Crisis back into canon, with Superman seeing himself stand against Darkseid as he destroys the Multiverse?
This x10.
DS is back to uber beast status. Not cared much for the actual level of writing, but DS just wrecked house. Best part has to be Superman double page rush to DS only to get overpowered twice seconds later. And crushing WW with one hand. And seemingly not being physicaly hurt... you get my point.
This DS didn't have the awe factor of FC DS but as team wreckers go this was a great appearance.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaThe former would have been one of the better routes to travel.
If you're talking about characterization, I agree, but if we get to that point, then he shouldn't have been there personally in the first place - Kalibak, Mantis or whomever would have been better suited. But as it is, "I am Darkseid, rargh" was pretty much as deep as this would get.
Like I said I thought the battle was decent, but it wasnt as good as it could have been. Imo.
Originally posted by Galan007On the Final Crisis being canon again - seeing as how that's Darkseid's true form, and Earth 2 teasers have shown it as being invaded by Parademons aswell, could it be possibly that it all ties in to Morrison's Multiversity, and Darkseid will launch a Multiversal attack by projecting himself using Avatars on different Universes and conquering them, a Multiversal army (not unlike that in Final Crisis) being needed to fight him everywhere?
The former would have been one of the better routes to travel.Like I said I thought the battle was decent, but it wasnt as good as it could have been. Imo.