DCU gets remade - all books are #1s, Geoff Johns and Jim Lee on Justice League, more

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I agree with everything you said - but you say this like this is a bad thing 😛

It really isn't when you look at the fact that:

A.) Green Lantern and Batman were two of DC's biggest and most popular properties prior to the reboot, so it makes sense for Johns' to focus primarily on them.

B.) Johns' has experience writing both of them.

But really, I paid to see the rest of the League, too, and it just seems weird that out of everyone, it feels like Superman got the least amount of play present. Sure, he was portrayed as the single most powerful member of the team and took it to Darkseid directly, but he didn't feel like...well, Superman. Even a corny never give up never say die line of dialogue or two in opposition to Darkseid, or him rallying the troops behind him would have been appreciated. He just seemed lost in the shuffle as it were. At least to me.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
just a few things:

1St geoff has already stated he doesnt get the new gods. so i wasnt expecting morrison quality or even simonson.

it was just an introduction for something much bigger down the road. whether that be morrisons Multiversity or whatnot remains to be seen. Caldwello shinted that he will be doing a new gods project.

last, darkseid didnt really want to fight. he was mainly looking for "her". was it Pandora? who knows, but for someone who didnt care for the league, he made the justice league look like flies.

Him not getting the New Gods is one thing. But even people who don't get them in the vein of Morrison or Simonson have portrayed Darkseid better than this. Introducing him is well and good, but what does Darkseid's debut have over say, Perrikus or whomever that showed up in JLI? Or that Invictus guy in New Guardians? He just seems like a random ass bad guy looking to own people, and tbh, I feel that is beneath Darkseid, new continuity or not. I wouldn't expect Thanos to just show up and beat up people, even though he certainly could; he's beyond just the immediate physical threat and Darkseid should be too (regardless of how you feel he's inferior or superior to Thanos).

If he wanted to show Darkseid making the League look like flies, he could have easily shown up - not Kool-Aid Man arrived via Boom Tube - and presented him better. Him actually fighting the League on their terms was a mis-step, imho.

1st people complain that there is too much superman. now too little superman. the final issue had every league member shine in one way or another. it was good, imo.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
1st people complain that there is too much superman. now too little superman. the final issue had every league member shine in one way or another. it was good, imo.

When you reformat your entire continuity to make Superman the center of everything once more - as if he already wasn't - and then do a less than stellar job showcasing him in your flagship title, it's not a very good thing, imo.

The issue wasn't bad, but really, I expected more from Johns. We know he can handle team books and can write virtually everyone, but this just left me unsatisfied. Content, I suppose, but that's about it. Maybe if the sixth issue was double sized, we could have had a more enjoyable resolution to the first arc, but really, Darkseid essentially being BFRed by Cyborg doesn't strike me as a great ending. At all. My favorite issue thus far of Justice League was #2.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank Him not getting the New Gods is one thing. But even people who don't get them in the vein of Morrison or Simonson have portrayed Darkseid better than this. Introducing him is well and good, but what does Darkseid's debut have over say, Perrikus or whomever that showed up in JLI? Or that Invictus guy in New Guardians? He just seems like a random ass bad guy looking to own people, and tbh, I feel that is beneath Darkseid, new continuity or not. I wouldn't expect Thanos to just show up and beat up people, even though he certainly could; he's beyond just the immediate physical threat and Darkseid should be too (regardless of how you feel he's inferior or superior to Thanos). If he wanted to show Darkseid making the League look like flies, he could have easily shown up - not Kool-Aid Man arrived via Boom Tube - and presented him better. Him actually fighting the League on their terms was a mis-step, imho.

the only 2 darkseid i liked was under morrison and or simonson. johns was better than most, imo.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank When you reformat your entire continuity to make Superman the center of everything once more - as if he already wasn't - and then do a less than stellar job showcasing him in your flagship title, it's not a very good thing, imo. The issue wasn't bad, but really, I expected more from Johns. We know he can handle team books and can write virtually everyone, but this just left me unsatisfied. Content, I suppose, but that's about it. Maybe if the sixth issue was double sized, we could have had a more enjoyable resolution to the first arc, but really, Darkseid essentially being BFRed by Cyborg doesn't strike me as a great ending. At all. My favorite issue thus far of Justice League was #2.

under the circumstances. i thought it was fine. the league just formed for the 1st time and they couldnt handle darky physically? so what happens? cyborg gets played up and bfr him.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
1st people complain that there is too much superman. now too little superman. the final issue had every league member shine in one way or another. it was good, imo.

👆 I think we'll get a better understanding of why Darkseid showed up when he did more of why he was there at the point in time, looking for her (his daughter) is later on into the story (like they said). Fighting the JLA wasn't something he was to interested in doing, but when he did, he dominated them.

🙂

Originally posted by kevdude 👆 I think we'll get a better understanding of why Darkseid showed up when he did more of why he was there at the point in time, looking for her (his daughter) is later on into the story (like they said). Fighting the JLA wasn't something he was to interested in doing, but when he did, he dominated them. 🙂

i hope philo is right. that it was just one of darlseids avatars. and that hes spreading his power across the multiverse. which means the new gods will have a bigger role than we thought. and PLEASE give Orion another series. for phuck sake!

Also another cap marvel series would be cool too. 🙂

The new Captain Marvel...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/shazam_electrifies_again_puMbHg6BYwirdrl3U9BYwL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=International

Bad ass pic, IMO.

Aside from the rename this looks quite promising.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
The new Captain Marvel...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/shazam_electrifies_again_puMbHg6BYwirdrl3U9BYwL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=International

Bad ass pic, IMO.

Not bad.

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Also, seriously, comparing Johns to BENDIS?

I have to ask people: Are you ****ing high? I don't wish to cause offence, but are people really comparing the guy who wrote GL Rebirth, Sinestro Corps War and Infinite Crisis to the dude who falls short on EVERY event he's ever written?

Yes, Johns hit a high with his Sinestro Corps books, but for me, Blackest Night was also a very good book, and his recent arc with Hal and Sinestro is as good as any of his "non-event" arcs on Green Lantern. I don't think he's losing his touch at all, and he's still to this day one of the few writers that for me, writes a believable romantic relationship.

Aquaman? He's written the character exceptionally well, with a bunch of little touches that really do add to the book. And the whole "public hating Aquaman" thing? It's not been a central plot since the second issue, and is now a sub-plot. And as far as it being necessary?

Hell yes. Most people still think Aquaman is lame. Johns said it himself that when he was telling people he was going to write Aquaman, they looked at him like he wasn't serious, and said "the guy that talks to fish?". I know people, people I respect that read comics, and when I mentioned that they should try Aquaman, the response was the same. Even people on THIS FORUM for the most part still think he's lame, and instead of just ignoring it like other writers have (and done well too), Johns is meeting it head-on, which is really what the character needed imo. He's never going to break this stigma around him until it's confronted and defeated.

As far as JLA goes:

I can understand why some people don't like it. You don't like how Darkseid is portrayed? Fair enough, but for me, this was a snapshot. A quick introduction that showed us why the League got together in the first place. The first four issues of the book were, to me, stellar, and it was only the last two that really dropped off (though I believe issue 6 was better than 5).

Someone mentioned Superman needing character development. Honestly, I don't agree. He's getting that in Action and Superman (to a lesser extent). Yes, they could have shown a bit more of his interactions with everyone, but for me, Superman needed one thing in JLA and one thing above all else: To make an impact. To show why he's considered the powerhouse of the team.

Johns did that in JL, and after two, three years of Robinson f*cking up Superman and making him stale as shit, we needed to see Superman just straight up kick some ass for once in his life. We got that.

And as far as dialogue goes, I honestly thought there was more good than bad over the course of the issues. He's not Bendis level. not nearly. He's far above it imo.

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Originally posted by Prep-Man
The new Captain Marvel...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/shazam_electrifies_again_puMbHg6BYwirdrl3U9BYwL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=International

Bad ass pic, IMO.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
The new Captain Marvel...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/shazam_electrifies_again_puMbHg6BYwirdrl3U9BYwL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=International

Bad ass pic, IMO.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
The new Captain Marvel...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/shazam_electrifies_again_puMbHg6BYwirdrl3U9BYwL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=International

Bad ass pic, IMO.

Looks cool.

I hope he'll be able to say his own name without triggering a transformation unless he wills it, though, and not have the problem Captain Marvel, Jr. had.

He'll always be Captain Marvel to me, though.

The direction is also a good thing, something they really should have done years ago. Writers didn't know how best to portray Marv or how to use him in the DCU when the answer was really quite clear. I just hope they don't make Billy/Captain Marvel too dark or edgy for "today's audience" and keep him at core the same likeable and fairly optimistic youth he's always been. People forget that like many heroes, he lost his family at a young age, and instead of being looked after by a butler or having a nice aunt and uncle to watch over him, he had to make it on the streets by himself for most his young life and somehow it didn't turn him into a jaded young man.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
The new Captain Marvel...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/shazam_electrifies_again_puMbHg6BYwirdrl3U9BYwL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=International

Bad ass pic, IMO.

Love it^^.

So if Cap's name is Shazam, then what's the Wizard's name? Is there a wizard?

There will be a Wizard, and I his name will be Shazam too, iirc.

Sounds like Shazam will be more than a name, and more like a title than anything.

Captain Marvel has been called Shazam here and there since his debut. This is nothing new.

In terms of marketing and product licensing and the fan base, sure, but he's always been referred to as Captain Marvel in the context of the actual stories in-universe with the exception of Freddy Freeman who was actually called Shazam.

All I'm saying is that, regardless of context, Captain Marvel being referred to as "Shazam" isn't unprecedented--it's been going on for decades. This is nothing new.