DCU gets remade - all books are #1s, Geoff Johns and Jim Lee on Justice League, more

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Looks like the First Lantern may be the most dangerous being in existence. Or at least one of them.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40795

My theory is that the 1st Lantern is a time displaced Kyle Rayner. Notice that when the Guardians say, 1ST Lantern, it's all white text. In Bedard's interview, he said Kyle will be mastering the entire emotional spectrum or to become a WHITE LANTERN. Just my thoughts.

Ugh. Matt Idelsen.

Originally posted by Galan007
What do you mean?
Originally posted by Galan007
What do you mean?
Well, to shortly break it down..

Superman is, again, starting to get kicked around to pump up the new villain (and hero). Helspont is straight up embarrasing him. In the next few months, there'll be another guy coming around, and apparently beating the utter shit out of the Superman family (looks like Bizarro), and his shtick is that he is "more powerful than Superman". Then Superman will be used to pump up other heroes - like Captain Marvel, apparently - needing to be saved by his girlfriend, Wonder Woman. And that's not the worst part; no, the worst part is that this happened:

That's not Superman. Superman isn't suddenly demoralized, and questions his very purpose just because a guy that's more powerful than him showed up and beat him, nor does he go "what should we do...I don't know what to do next" just because of it. That's exactly the opposite of the optimist, creative, hopeful, capable, confident Superman shown in Action Comics, who has no problem going up against Brainiac, or whomever, even when he's completly out of his comfort area, because he knows he'll find a way - just because he can't outpunch the opponent doesn't mean that he will give up. Creativity. Imagination. Superman shouldn't be about "can I or can I not punch my opponent's face in - and if not, oh shit what will I do" - that's one of the crap that was prevalent in the post-Crisis area.

I mean, just looking at Superman Beyond:

I feel like going crazy.

The problem is that the subsequent writers seem to have completely missed everything Grant Morrison was trying to say (and still is), instead going with one thing only - he's agressive, and he won't take bullshit. They leave out everything else, the positivity (and mistake positivity for "I'll just have him say this old-fashioned, generic crap, surely he'll look positive!"😉, the creativity, the energy, the wonder, everything that makes Grant Morrison's Superman great.

I've already read this shitty Superman for most of the past 25 years. I've had enough of the self-doubting, incompetent cry-baby who can't find his way out of a paper bug unless he can punch out of it. Giving him an agressive edge doesn't suddenly make him Superman, when everything else is just the same as before, missing everything that makes the character great.

I can't believe Grant Morrison, arguably the only writer who completly gets the character leaves.

I can't believe how much of a mess the Superman titles are, with writers who've already had extensive runs on the character in his shitty post-Crisis incarnation (Dan Jurgens) getting called to present him to a new generation in the bland, crap manner that they've done.

I can't believe they're f*cking everything up again.

It's like they simply don't want the character to be great.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He is going to become the punching bag for villains again to show how he isn't that powerful anymore to appease those who already hate superman with the rationalizatio that superman is too powerful and boring. The funny thing is that the same people love sentry, majestic, thor and surfer because they are powerful. DC pandering to these people is the reason superman is in the position he's for years. The sad thing is that there is nothing SUPER about superman anymore.

...so you think DC has this master plan to make Superman less "super" via feats to appease his "haters"?

Really?

Actually, that's been the logic Superman's editor has used, repeatedly.

"We'll make him weaker, so that he's more relatable"

There's a ridiculous amount of idiocy in the Superman office.

Pretty much every character is weaker for the exception of Captain Atom.

Not really, no.
Hal and the Bat-family are basically the same. (with Bruce getting some of the best feats ever)
Superman is developing as more powerful than before under some writers (Grant Morrison, maybe Geoff Johns) and the same ol' under others (George Perez, Dan Jugerns). He's repeatedly called the most powerful being on the planet - a planet with Captain Atom on it.
Wonder Woman is more powerful, more agressive, and with more often display of skill than before (I couldn't see her replicating her recent performance against Hal, the greatest Green Lantern, before the reboot; and now there's also the 'bracelets come off' dynamic).
Barry hasn't had many 'xxxxsecond' statements (though he's been said to have baseline femtosecond reflexes), but he's outraced the Omega Beams (something both he and Wally had a hard time in Final Crisis).
Aquaman has gotten the feats of a career in both JLA and his main title.
Cyborg is now a machine god.
J'onn is almost in CBR mode, with his constant shapeshifting and versatility usage in battles.
Captain Atom -- not much needs to be said.
Deathstroke is now in a better armor, with blatant metahuman abilities.
Green Arrow is back to "I have every plot-device arrow", coupled with some crazy physical feats.
Daxamites are at a level where they're able to break Inertron (the strongest material in the 31st century Universe - basically adamantium, but amped up for an entire futuristic Universe)
Mister Terrific has gotten the push of his existance in terms of genius.
Then there's Jenny in Stormwatch, Superboy who is basically now a telekinesis god, Supergirl who is back to "is she or is she not as or more powerful than Superman" and a lot more.

Sure, there haven't yet been big flashy cosmic cheese feats from everybody (but enough of them to have a basline, and go from there - see Captain Atom, Jenny), but the actual combat demonstrations are high.

In fairness, only a couple of Aquaman's feats are that impressive compared to his pre-reboot stuff. Though his durability one this week is one of my favourites of all time, I have to admit.

I agree in general though.

Don't forget Rose Wilson. She has had some nice showings in Legion Lost.

Also, the Body Doubles as well. They're hard to put down.

Originally posted by -Pr-
In fairness, only a couple of Aquaman's feats are that impressive compared to his pre-reboot stuff. Though his durability one this week is one of my favourites of all time, I have to admit.

I agree in general though.

A couple of feats in 12 issues of his own title + a title where he has to share the spotlight with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Hal and Flash, yet still has time to stab Darkseid, is more than enough.

Unless you're written by Loeb, chances you get multiple feats that are one of the best in your career just in those few issues are close to none.

Originally posted by Philosophía
A couple of feats in 12 issues of his own title + a title where he has to share the spotlight with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Hal and Flash, yet still has time to stab Darkseid, is more than enough.

Unless you're written by Loeb, chances you get multiple feats that are one of the best in your career just in those few issues are close to none.

I never said it wasn't enough; just that it's not like these are the only feats he's ever had.

Johns is doing a good job "showing him off" though, definitely.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I never said it wasn't enough; just that it's not like these are the only feats he's ever had.

Johns is doing a good job "showing him off" though, definitely.

Not the only feats, but a significant concentration of the best ones, in just a (relative) few issues.

His 'average' is now significantly above what it was prior to the reboot.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Not the only feats, but a significant concentration of the best ones, in just a (relative) few issues.

His 'average' is now significantly above what it was prior to the reboot.

If we're talking pre-death, maybe. If we include Brightest Day, not so much imo.

I'm not saying I'm unhappy with the reboot; I am very happy with it. Aquaman's getting a lot of respect nowadays, and the exposure can only be a good thing.

I don't disagree in principle; I just think the disparity isn't as large as you might think.

I don't remember seeing anything in Brightest Day that is comparable to flipping thousands of tons cruise ships, stabbing Darkseid's eyes out, pushing mountain tips or one arm dragging ships through storms by chain.

Meh.

My only problem with DC is that it became so messy for years since 2008 or 2009 maybe a bit sooner that I stopped following it. I hope it won't go there again.

Anyone seen that preview for Green Arrow #0

looks like a Hawkeye style costume to me.

Link? If his costume is the same from the cover #0 he looks like Connor more then anything.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=13476

This one is even better.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=13463

Terry Sloan seems like a bad ass super genius.