Originally posted by Golgo13
Vibe is the guardian/gateway to the Multiverse.
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/justice-league-america-vibe-kreisberg-multiverse-interview.html
Not sure that's what it said.
Originally posted by -Pr-It's Will Moss. Don't know anything about the guy.
Is Idelson still editor?
Originally posted by comicfan11Within the Universe, there isn't really anything to say that she is stronger or anything. It's just the [ex]editor's comments and such.
Meh if I remember correctly preboot Supes dispelled that "implication" within some issues.Hopefully this will happen in the DCnU also
This issue was the first time when she was implied to be superior [with a statement that was practically copy/pasted from the Wonder Woman scene in JLA] - but that implication came from her own train of thoughts, so it doesn't really matter.
Originally posted by Zack FairThis week's Supergirl issue.
What issue are are those flash/kara scans?
I never saw it mentioned here, but did anyone else catch the battle between Nu52 Captain Atom and Firestorm? I have to say, it was actually pretty damn good. CA was obviously more powerful, but FS did okay(better than most would have at least.)
In the end, CA willingly overloads himself with energy in order to detonate and scatter his essence throughout the timestream:
"I knew this life was no longer for me."
Originally posted by Philosophía
There's a "McDuffie" scene, where Supergirl implies she is faster than Superman.This just marks another time the writers have tried to copy a plot-point from another writer. And that wouldn't be as bad, if the idea they have for themselves would be good, but they seem to be frustrated to show their toy, Supergirl, is just as good and powaful(!) as the other guy's toy, Superman.
They aren't helping me think that the existence of Supergirl is useless, and deameaning towards the Superman mythos.
I will note waaay back in the old Legion of Superheroes, when they had three Kryptonian types, Supergirl was the fastest, and between Mon-el and Clark... one was toughest and one was strongest, I forgot which is which.
"Supergirl is faster but less powerful," is a very old thing.
Originally posted by Q99If it went like that, Mon-El certainly wouldn't be the toughest. Guy's a glass cannon.
I will note waaay back in the old Legion of Superheroes, when they had three Kryptonian types, Supergirl was the fastest, and between Mon-el and Clark... one was toughest and one was strongest, I forgot which is which."Supergirl is faster but less powerful," is a very old thing.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
So PC Kara was faster than Superman? Was it proven on panel or just assumed/stated by a character?
It would take a longer time to check than seems warranted at the moment, but Supergirl went so fast in on of the DC Comics Presents episodes, whichever one it was in which she and Superman fought Mongul and Warworld, that she crashed through every known barrier.
Superman tried his best to catch her, pouring on speed as he never had before, but it proved useless. Kara, though UNCONSCIOUS from colliding with, and plowing straight on through, Warworld, was STILL going too fast.
In the end, despite shattering every barrier in the known Universe, Kara had to be retrieved by the Spectre, not Superman.
However, like so many stories of this sort, what actually occurred is ambiguous. It is heavily implied that what "really" took place was that Kara was not rendered unconscious but DIED from the head-on collision, that Superman in some way had his "prayer" answered by proving himself ready to risk and sacrifice his life for Kara's own, traditionally held by many as the greatest love one can demonstrate for someone else, and that whoever passes for "god" at DC, resurrected Kara on Superman's behalf.
Taken at face value, without all the meaning alluded to in the paragraph before this one? One could argue Supergirl was indeed faster than Superman. And by quite a margin, at that.
Superman failed to catch her no matter what he did or how long he chased her, even though she had rammed into something that should have slowed her down, and, indeed, at the least, knocked her completely out, meaning she had no more conscious effort to put into maintaining her lead in the race.
Somehow, I think the author was trying to convey a different point, though, whether he believed Kara really did have such a physical speed advantage or not.
It might be interesting to discover the history of the "Black Racer" in conjunction with this. Superman essentially outraced Death through his actions, something I understand the Flash has done at various points in his history as well.
At the least, it might prove interesting to see which of those stories came first ...
Originally posted by bluewaterrider👆
It would take a longer time to check than seems warranted at the moment, but Supergirl went so fast in on of the DC Comics Presents episodes, whichever one it was in which she and Superman fought Mongul and Warworld, that she crashed through every known barrier.Superman tried his best to catch her, pouring on speed as he never had before, but it proved useless. Kara, though UNCONSCIOUS from colliding with, and plowing straight on through, Warworld, was STILL going too fast.
In the end, despite shattering every barrier in the known Universe, Kara had to be retrieved by the Spectre, not Superman.
However, like so many stories of this sort, what actually occurred is ambiguous. It is heavily implied that what "really" took place was that Kara was not rendered unconscious but DIED from the head-on collision, that Superman in some way had his "prayer" answered by proving himself ready to risk and sacrifice his life for Kara's own, traditionally held by many as the greatest love one can demonstrate for someone else, and that whoever passes for "god" at DC, resurrected Kara on Superman's behalf.
Taken at face value, without all the meaning alluded to in the paragraph before this one? One could argue Supergirl was indeed faster than Superman. And by quite a margin, at that.
Superman failed to catch her no matter what he did or how long he chased her, even though she had rammed into something that should have slowed her down, and, indeed, at the least, knocked her completely out, meaning she had no more conscious effort to put into maintaining her lead in the race.Somehow, I think the author was trying to convey a different point, though, whether he believed Kara really did have such a physical speed advantage or not.
It might be interesting to discover the history of the "Black Racer" in conjunction with this. Superman essentially outraced Death through his actions, something I understand the Flash has done at various points in his history as well.
At the least, it might prove interesting to see which of those stories came first ...
So after reading JLA #16, and what had come before it, I don't think there can be really any doubt that Aquaman is now a solid herald. Low to be on the safe side, but I can see him going mid if Johns keeps pushing him.
In this issue alone, we saw him:
Tank an explosive Batman had believed would put him down (at least temporarily).
Punch Superman with at least enough force to take him out of the fight for a few minutes.
Tackle Wonder Woman with speed and strength causing impressive collateral damage, without the lasso affecting him.
Take a punch from Wonder Woman that at most gave him a bloody lip.
Stun a group of Atlantean soldiers with a kind of "telepathic shockwave".
That's a very impressive list for one issue.
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Also, who is Element Woman?
Originally posted by -Pr-
So after reading JLA #16, and what had come before it, I don't think there can be really any doubt that Aquaman is now a solid herald. Low to be on the safe side, but I can see him going mid if Johns keeps pushing him.In this issue alone, we saw him:
Tank an explosive Batman had believed would put him down (at least temporarily).
Punch Superman with at least enough force to take him out of the fight for a few minutes.
Tackle Wonder Woman with speed and strength causing impressive collateral damage, without the lasso affecting him.
Take a punch from Wonder Woman that at most gave him a bloody lip.
Stun a group of Atlantean soldiers with a kind of "telepathic shockwave".That's a very impressive list for one issue.
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Also, who is Element Woman?
I agree of course.
AQ had shown strength and durability before, but the most important feat I believe is the superspeed like charge at WW.
Most of his speed feats were underwater/swimming , but this is on the surface and it was a good one.
Originally posted by -Pr-
TBH, I would say that his showings in the issue were among his best strength and durability wise. The tackle was good though.
Oh of course I agree. Without a doubt.
I was just making a point that his strength and durability had been shown on land before, but his speed on land was far less shown.
That's why I'm more impressed with the speed feat, because a) It's high level and b) It's more rare.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
mhmm Wife of the Molecule Man. Got to be.
Don't care if they're from different companies or not ...
lol
Originally posted by comicfan11
Oh of course I agree. Without a doubt.
I was just making a point that his strength and durability had been shown on land before, but his speed on land was far less shown.That's why I'm more impressed with the speed feat, because a) It's high level and b) It's more rare.
true, even if it's hard to quantify. i liked the collateral damage too.
