Mortal Kombat 9 vs. Twilight Princess

Originally posted by NemeBro
Put on a ****ing 50 pound weight vest.

See if you can lift more than what you normally do right after.

Quan there is no way you can be stupid enough to say that, I DO weight-train, having weight in muscle obviously increases strength, no shit.

Putting heavy boots on will not improve your upper body strength.

If you believe it does, go back to Elementary school and get a ****ing education.

Those are damn big goats, bro. There are some horses that aren't much bigger than those.

A special technique? Yeah. Bracing yourself is oh so special. I don't know how Link would win any fights without knowing such a secret technique.

No Deal, Howie! Give me that damn button! I'm going to flip that banker the bird.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Games/comics/fantasy don't have to follow the rules of physics and all sync up as the creators can do whatever they want. This is painfully clear despite you trying to make sense of every feat in a game it's just an exercise in futility.

Okay.

You are a ****ing idiot.

I'm out.

Originally posted by NemeBro
So what you are saying is that the Iron Boots increase Link's physical strength?

Okay.

You are a ****ing idiot.

I'm out.

Profiled.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Those are damn big goats, bro. There are some horses that aren't much bigger than those.

A special technique? Yeah. Bracing yourself is oh so special. I don't know how Link would win any fights without knowing such a secret technique.

No Deal, Howie! Give me that damn button! I'm going to flip that banker the bird.

Originally posted by NemeBro
So what you are saying is that the Iron Boots increase Link's physical strength?

Okay.

You are a ****ing idiot.

I'm out.

Dude. How do you still not get this? That goat is heavier than Link. Weight still means it can move him, even though he has the strength necessary to stop it's charge.

In addition, there's this thing called leverage. If Link didn't brace himself, he'd just get knocked on his ass. Super strength doesn't mean you're incapable of being tipped over. That's retarded.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Dude. How do you still not get this? That goat is heavier than Link. Weight still means it can move him, even though he has the strength necessary to stop it's charge.

In addition, there's this thing called leverage. If Link didn't brace himself, he'd just get knocked on his ass. Super strength doesn't mean you're incapable of being tipped over. That's retarded.

This isn't about Link being surprised this is about him not being strong enough in the game without the technique needed to stop them. Plain and simple.

Yeah. Because it's a dog. And unless it's ****ing Cerberus, you weigh more than it does. Try that shit a horse, or a raging bull. It'll run your ass over, super strength or not.

I'll even provide you with a raging bull. Where do you live?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Yeah. Because it's a dog. And unless it's ****ing Cerberus, you weigh more than it does. Try that shit a horse, or a raging bull. It'll run your ass over, super strength or not.

I'll even provide you with a raging bull. Where do you live?

The point is if your strength is that much more than what is colliding with you it won't be anything to stop it.

If Link was portrayed as strong as you claim the taming of the horse and actually hacking his enemies to pieces would actually occur in the game. We also see him wield the ball and chain and it doesn't weigh anywhere near 100 tons and we see him struggle with it.

The problem is you have people accepting these unprovable goron feats and trying to make sense of them while dismissing Link's portrayal throughout the actual game.

Chances are, yeah. Maybe it weighed the same as him but had extra force from its running start.

Yes, it will. Ever seen the Fantastic Four movie? If you have I'll expand into yet another example where I will explain things. And if you still don't get it, I'll probably just tell you to **** off and get on with the thread while ignoring you.

Gore. You think there needs to be gore in the game to portray Link as super strong? That's really what this is all about isn't it, Quan? You've got some absurd BT rationality about the game and think it's childish, don't you?

You should go watch My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. If anything will smash that rationale in you, it's that show.

Well, Pokemon might do it too. But that'd mean putting Pokemans up against your favorites in a thread, as you'd inevitably do, and I really don't think I want to know what bull you'd craft to try and get your gore to win.

The goat was the same size as a bull or bigger. It's horns were bigger than he was.

Of course it weighed more than him.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Allankles doesn't know the difference between lifting and throwing, apparently. Link throws that 65ish ton Dangoro like a ragdoll, that's a class 100 feat. It's also piss poor compared to overpowering Ganondorf, which is the feat you need to start focusing on.

Ganon actually does have awesome feats, good enough to allow him to solo this thread and make all your speculation and conjecture about Link pointless.

He didn't toss Dangoro like a ragdoll, in fact he looked to be able to toss him a few meters at most. Also go back and look at Dangoro's size to say he's anything above 20tons is very generous.

Before continuing this go back and look at Dangoro's size, he really shouldn't be above 20 tons. (I just did two minutes before typing this).

Spiderman has better strength feats than Link (and superior physical feats overall) and people put him at the 20-25 ton strength range.

And Ganon wouldn't be able to beat MK without the the triforce i.e. the whole triforce. Combat wise he hasn't proven himself any kind of superior to an elite MK warrior.

He has no feats to suggest that he'd beat a guy who can merge entire planets, nor the billions of warriors at his disposal. Nor does he have feats to suggest that he can survive an empire that can soul steal an entire planet.

A guy whose level of ambition is Hyrule, a single kingdom with no noted competent armies to defend it, let alone ageless sorcerers that can soul steal planets, cannot beat MK by himself (sans Earth realm or otherwise).

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you think the goat weighed more than Link ?

The point is if your strength is that much more than what is colliding with you it won't be anything to stop it.

If Link was portrayed as strong as you claim the taming of the horse and actually hacking his enemies to pieces would actually occur in the game. We also see him wield the ball and chain and it doesn't weigh anywhere near 100 tons and we see him struggle with it.

The problem is you have people accepting these unprovable goron feats and trying to make sense of them while dismissing Link's portrayal throughout the actual game.

Link is strong but to say he's a 100 tonner is way way off. It's reasonable to accept that Link would struggle with the ball and chain but also be able to lift Dangoro, why... because both are gameplay, and they both communicate both Link's strength and his limitations.

It's safe to say that Link is a 5-10 tonner at his best.

Quan, weights on your leg will not help your arms lift anything. Why would it?

Originally posted by Allankles
It's safe to say that Link is a 5-10 tonner at his best.

Though no, if you are under the impression Dangoro weighs 5-10 tons, you need to leave now.

The weight class system in comics is often broken due to misnomers.

Absolutely no one in class 100 is an actual class 100. They are all vastly above it. I've always said class 100 is more like class 100,000, as an absolute bare minimum for entry into the roster.

100 tons is nothing special. Moderate sized boulders that visually would seem suitable for spiderman to lift can weigh 100 tons.

Those slabs of stone in stone henge, would weigh around 50 tons a piece.

Spiderman has lifted or braced things over 100 tons in the past.

At actual values, yes, Link can toss dangoro around, who would definitely weigh a fair bit into the double digit tons.

I dont recall an in-game LoZ quote that says Gorons are solid rock, where does it say this? they look mostly flesh based on images with rock outcroppings. They also have a digestive system, and I assume they have brains so theres organic features there that suggests their not "solid" in any sense.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Chances are, yeah. Maybe it weighed the same as him but had extra force from its running start.

Yes, it will. Ever seen the Fantastic Four movie? If you have I'll expand into yet another example where I will explain things. And if you still don't get it, I'll probably just tell you to **** off and get on with the thread while ignoring you.

Gore. You think there needs to be gore in the game to portray Link as super strong? That's really what this is all about isn't it, Quan? You've got some absurd BT rationality about the game and think it's childish, don't you?

You should go watch My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. If anything will smash that rationale in you, it's that show.

Well, Pokemon might do it too. But that'd mean putting Pokemans up against your favorites in a thread, as you'd inevitably do, and I really don't think I want to know what bull you'd craft to try and get your gore to win.

So a guy who can lift over 200,000 pounds should struggle with something that at best weighs less than 200 pounds at best ? LOL and you want to ignore me get over yourself, mewtwo.

No, I just don't tend to overanalyze a feat or so without any real proof other than speculation and view all these characters how they are portrayed including mk characters. I do the same for all these guys and I have given an example from a comic book writer in the past in how he explained how nonsensical feats are despite fans obsessing over them.

Gore doesn't always win the mk feats are even greater and are portrayed as vastly superior based off the fact they can hammer a modern day earth that is also backed up by fictional magic as well.

Originally posted by Allankles
He didn't toss Dangoro like a ragdoll, in fact he looked to be able to toss him a few meters at most. Also go back and look at Dangoro's size to say he's anything above 20tons is very generous.

Before continuing this go back and look at Dangoro's size, he really shouldn't be above 20 tons. (I just did two minutes before typing this).

Spiderman has better strength feats than Link (and superior physical feats overall) and people put him at the 20-25 ton strength range.

And Ganon wouldn't be able to beat MK without the the triforce i.e. the whole triforce. Combat wise he hasn't proven himself any kind of superior to an elite MK warrior.

He has no feats to suggest that he'd beat a guy who can merge entire planets, nor the billions of warriors at his disposal. Nor does he have feats to suggest that he can survive an empire that can soul steal an entire planet.

A guy whose level of ambition is Hyrule, a single kingdom with no noted competent armies to defend it, let alone ageless sorcerers that can soul steal planets, cannot beat MK by himself (sans Earth realm or otherwise).

Overpowering Ganondorf end game puts TP Link above OoT Link with the GG's in terms of strength. This makes him incredibly physically powerful.

A guy whose level of ambition is Hyrule, a single kingdom with no noted competent armies to defend it, let alone ageless sorcerers that can soul steal planets, cannot beat MK by himself (sans Earth realm or otherwise).

None of the fighters have any feats that would allow them to hurt Ganondorf.

Originally posted by Allankles
Link is strong but to say he's a 100 tonner is way way off. It's reasonable to accept that Link would struggle with the ball and chain but also be able to lift Dangoro, why... because both are gameplay, and they both communicate both Link's strength and his limitations.

It's safe to say that Link is a 5-10 tonner at his best.

In mk you realize who the strong characters are by size and feats in comparison to each other. We see Shao Kahn bat around elite fighters showing he is vastly stronger when he hits them or like a Goro or Kintaro who also displayed they are stronger than most of their mk counterparts.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Quan, weights on your leg will not help your arms lift anything. Why would it?

It's like Thanos in comics being cut by Wolverine despite not being affected by someone with the power to destroy an entire planet.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Funnily enough that would still make Link demonstratably stronger than everyone in MK.

Though no, if you are under the impression Dangoro weighs 5-10 tons, you need to leave now.