Mortal Kombat 9 vs. Twilight Princess

Started by quanchi11227 pages

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
1) Your focusing on Dangoro, who is a [b]low showing. Why you choose to focus on a feat that occurs early on in the game, when Link has a better one, I don't know.
2) Stop guesstimating and do some actual math, if you just want to throw numbers around, boyo. Show your work.
3) Drop the preconceived notions, and pay attention to feats.

Overpowering Ganondorf end game puts TP Link above OoT Link with the GG's in terms of strength. This makes him incredibly physically powerful.

By feats, yes he can. Ohnoes, ageless sorcerers. A meaningless title, and something that can also be applied to Ganon, who has impressive feats. Ganon can whip up his own army to troll MK into submission if he feels so inclined. The fact that he could physically fly through and punch them all to death (read, hit them once) adds to the awesome.

None of the fighters have any feats that would allow them to hurt Ganondorf. [/B]

He just says that can soul steal planets after the title so immediately after he says something to back them up on top of the fact they have experience on mostly everyone in hyrule.

Dorf didn't beat any army in twilight princess on his own. Zant and the twilight beasts beat a lackluster one but Dorf on his own failed against 7 sages despite being backed by the triforce of power yet you continue to claim he can solo armies whereas mk has actually hammered modern day earth which would mop the floor with hyrule without breaking a sweat.

Saying dorf can solo an army despite losing in the game to 7 guys and not doing so is wishful thinking.

Quanchi your taking events out of context, Ganon being imprisoned by the sages do not= "just 7 guys", their powerful sorcerors using context specific equipment that MK does not have (the mirror of twilight if I am not mistaken?). They did not beat him into submission....

I dont know if Dorf can solo an army, let alone a MK one because I dont know MK that well however baseing your belief on one context important to low ball dorf is logically fallacious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't think it weighed more than he does. Even if it was around his weight I don't see it being anywhere near a challenge considering where you feel his strength is at.

So a guy who can lift over 200,000 pounds should struggle with something that at best weighs less than 200 pounds at best ? LOL and you want to ignore me get over yourself, mewtwo.

No, I just don't tend to overanalyze a feat or so without any real proof other than speculation and view all these characters how they are portrayed including mk characters. I do the same for all these guys and I have given an example from a comic book writer in the past in how he explained how nonsensical feats are despite fans obsessing over them.

Gore doesn't always win the mk feats are even greater and are portrayed as vastly superior based off the fact they can hammer a modern day earth that is also backed up by fictional magic as well.

**** off bro. You still don't get it. And I'm sick of your trolling.

Bro, ****ing finish High School. If one can lift 200,000 pounds while weighing as much as Link. That goat would still be capable of pushing that person across the ground. Even if he braces himself. Because that dude still weighs less than the goddamn goat. We're not talking about the 200,000 ton bench pressing guy pushing back or anything. He's standing there trying to stop it.

You've got BT telling you to stop downplaying shit. That's serious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Games don't have to have everything sync up to physics/reality it's entirely fictional.

Obviously, by why should an instance which already follows physics be disregarded? There is no other reason to do that except to take away a strength feat from Link. A feat which he currently has until you prove that wearing heavy boots can make you lift heavy things. Fiction is fiction and physics don't have to apply all the time. But instances where there is no reason for them not to apply are perfectly valid as far as I'm concerned.

Just a question, but if Link needs the extra weight to stop Dangoro, but can stop Ganon's sword and beat him in a swordlock just fine, what does that say about Ganon's strength? Surely that would indicate that Ganon can produce much less Force than Dangoro's charge, correct?

I'm not that good at physics or math so I'm seriously asking.

Just a question, but if Link needs the extra weight to stop Dangoro, but can stop Ganon's sword and beat him in a swordlock just fine, what does that say about Ganon's strength? Surely that would indicate that Ganon can produce much less Force than Dangoro's charge, correct?

Ganondorf, while large, is not as heavy as a Goron made of stone, and Link in that cutscene jump attacks into the charge, introducing his own mass to the equation. Technically, in every fight between characters with superstrength, both should fly all over the place. It's sort of Like Kratos stopping the BoO blow from Zues and not flying into the horizon. Very common in videogames. While Zelda atleast tries to adhere to physics with the boots and shit, having the climax of the game send both Ganon and Link flying would kinda ruin it.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RequiredSecondaryPowers

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool

Super anchoring happens in most super-human fights. /Shrug.

To my knowledge... MK characters aren't even strong compare to other verses.

Actually Kratos and Zeus after punching eachother both were sent flying backwards by the force. Or something.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Actually Kratos and Zeus after punching eachother both were sent flying backwards by the force. Or something.
But it doesn't happen consistently, is my point, with Kratos able to stop the BoO with his bare hands and not fly off. 😛 Besides, there are millions of examples that can be made. /Shrug.

Why aren't you on MSN? ._.

Ganondorf, being huge, is mostly pushing downwards on Link and Link can brace himself there. In any case, some feats:

Link throwing Dangoro.

Link throwing Blizzeta.

For this, BloodRain math'd it maybe a year ago and I assume he doesn't want to do so again:

Originally posted by BloodRain
I just made it a sphere for quickness sake. Its around 8m around the waist ring, 4/3 πR3 (r=400cm [I work in cm >>]) = 268082573.333*0.92 [ice density] = 246635967 g
= 272 tons, rounded up due to it being more egg then ball in shape. One throw of the Ball&Chain being able to knock this weight across the room at a good speeds more or less confirms Goron lifting without Boots.

Link getting fired out of a sky cannon directly into water. That should, of course, be fatal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp5_8WdNXa8#t=2m6s
Ganondorf's execution. After being stabbed, Ganondorf receives the Triforce of Power, and ignores the Sage's Sword, breaks the chains and disintegrates the Sage of Water with a touch. After which he finally removes the sword from his chest.

Ganondorf makes Hyrule Castle explode and demonstrates his superiority to the Fused Shadows.

I see how it is. Leave Quan to me and inform the others.

I thought it was Midna's mega punch that made the castle explode? 😮

Quan? We'll acknowledge him when he acknowledges evidence.

Originally posted by The Scenario

Ganondorf makes Hyrule Castle explode and demonstrates his superiority to the Fused Shadows.

I dont see Ganon doing it, lets see the whole clip please 🙂

IIRC, it was Midna.

Only reason I ask is not out of doubt that Ganondorf could blow up a castle but merely why he'd do it. Wasn't that like his home or something? I mean wrecking it a little is fine but actually blowing it up is a tad excessive.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Only reason I ask is not out of doubt that Ganondorf could blow up a castle but merely why he'd do it. Wasn't that like his home or something? I mean wrecking it a little is fine but actually blowing it up is a tad excessive.
It was Hyrule castle, and he hadn't been there long. Long enough to imprison Zelda in the center of the giant triforce in the throne room and smash the heads from the statues of the goddesses and have a seat, certainly. As well as fill it with minions, actually. We also never see him attack, only Midna. It's his usual M.O. to make his home in the castle after conquering Hyrule though, yeah. He's easily capable of building a new one, though, or improving on the design of an existing one.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Quanchi your taking events out of context, Ganon being imprisoned by the sages do not= "just 7 guys", their powerful sorcerors using context specific equipment that MK does not have (the mirror of twilight if I am not mistaken?). They did not beat him into submission....

I dont know if Dorf can solo an army, let alone a MK one because I dont know MK that well however baseing your belief on one context important to low ball dorf is logically fallacious.

Mk is full of powerful sorcerers who have soul sucked modern day earth. That's a heckuva of a lot more impressive than anything the seven sages did but I bet you didn't play the game either.

Quan Chi can also open portals pretty much anywhere and he could easily bfr Dorf at will. Dorf needs someone else to get back just like he needed Zant in the game. Quan Chi can take out Dorf by himself.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
**** off bro. You still don't get it. And I'm sick of your trolling.

Bro, ****ing finish High School. If one can lift 200,000 pounds while weighing as much as Link. That goat would still be capable of pushing that person across the ground. Even if he braces himself. Because that dude still weighs less than the goddamn goat. We're not talking about the 200,000 ton bench pressing guy pushing back or anything. He's standing there trying to stop it.

You've got BT telling you to stop downplaying shit. That's serious.

I'm sick of your emotional outbursts. Secondly, Link doesn't have super strength anywhere in the game he has the gear and amount of strength to finish the job.

Bo also outwrestled the gorons with the boots and we've seen Link wield a ball and chain which is nowhere near 1ton let alone 200 tons completely destroying your argument which is based off of speculation as you cannot provide weight for any Goron whatsoever outside of wishful thinking.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Obviously, by why should an instance which already follows physics be disregarded? There is no other reason to do that except to take away a strength feat from Link. A feat which he currently has until you prove that wearing heavy boots can make you lift heavy things. Fiction is fiction and physics don't have to apply all the time. But instances where there is no reason for them not to apply are perfectly valid as far as I'm concerned.
There's no factual data in this game or any game about the weight of the gorons and we can tell if he was superstrong the ball and chain or his enemies would be easily verpowered but they never are. It's about skill with Link most of the time not this fictitious super strong/bullet resistant Link fanboys have made up in their heads.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Quan? We'll acknowledge him when he acknowledges evidence.
I do acknowledge evidence not speculation you and a few others misrepresent.

Mk is full of powerful sorcerers who have soul sucked modern day earth.

Not something they can replicate here, nor a solo feat. Took an assload of time and prep, and didn't work on anyone with even the tiniest sliver of resistance.

Quan Chi can also open portals pretty much anywhere and he could easily bfr Dorf at will.
He can open a portal anywhere he likes, he's physically incapable of forcing Ganondorf through it, or even harming him. Ganon strikes him with lightning, he dies.

I'm sick of your emotional outbursts

We're sick of your trolling.

Secondly, Link doesn't have super strength anywhere in the game

See, trolling. 😬

Ganon turns the cast of MK into fish.