Originally posted by The ScenarioI've already acknowledged Link is stronger than any human. His combat strength isn't consistent with this ie. he doesn't just massively dog out ogres, knights in the game or rip them in half due to an unfair strength advantage. Nothing new here.
I've posted this before, if you want to get into creator's intention.Plus, just for Quanchi's lack of sound on his computer.
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This quite clearly shows that Link is intended to be superhuman, no? Now, then.
Through twilight portals. The kind that the Shadow Basts use to get into Hyrule from the Twilight Realm. It's not teleportation, Ganon actually moves around by making portals to another dimension.
No, the point was that Ganondorf was using Zant to regain his powers, and once he had fed on the Twili's hate he had enough strength to not need Zant. If you forgot, Zant is perfectly capable of moving back and forth between Hyrule, and it is stated repeatedly by Zant and others that all of Zant's power came from Ganondorf.
It had everything to do with it. The Master Sword was canceling Ganondorf's Triforce of Power, and all that was left was the bit of Ganondorf's own power in Zant. Since, you know, Zant was given some of Ganondorf's power. Whatever Zant did prevented Ganondorf from using that little bit that was left, so he had nothing. Had the Master Sword not been impaling Ganondorf, Zant's little sliver of Power would have done nothing.
The Master Sword is specifically designed to counter things like Ganondorf's evil power, so it's really one of the only things that will work. You'd need an Evil's Bane weapon or power to do similar, not just something powerful.
Link is portrayed as strong enough to throw a large armored Goron, a giant ice mass, and to routinely kill massive monsters. He's portrayed and recognized as a hero able to do things no one else can. You're opinion doesn't mean much when Link lifts huge chandeliers and push metal blocks. That's frankly greater than ripping in half strength and it's quite consistent given that it keeps happening in every game. Heck, look at the interview again, Link is intended to be superhuman by pushing those blocks.
Yes, he is. He defeated Bo in a sumo wrestling match, pushing him out of the ring. And Bo is also incredibly strong, since the guy can push Gorons around and has tusks. It's a combination of skill, technique and the super strength Link has displayed. He clearly has skill and strength, not just one, which is, in fact, my whole point. Link the boots only for stopping horizontal movement, but his vertical lifting is clearly super human.
Link has sent people flying with a sword strike before. Like here for instance. Of course, there's also this, where Link hitting Blizzeta throws her across the room, much better than just flinging a person.
Bo wrestles Gorons. The guy is strong, too. However, that's still early in the game, very different from Link's later feats of strength, by which time he is much stronger than Bo. What you're not getting is that Link gets stronger as he goes. The game is all about his growth and increase in power. He's portrayed as always improving, after all.
I always said he was superhuman compared to human beings just not to the lengths you place him at.
This was from zant's interaction as well so if they take out Zant we see Dorf cannot do this on his own which is my entire point. If Dorf could make portals back to hyrule he wouldn't have needed zant in the first place.
Yes, once Dorf's powers were at an all time high and the fact Zant also had this power made it easy for Dorf to eventually return. So according to your logic he was weakened big time by the sages and took hundreds of years to gain more power through an intermediate to return. This actually hurts Dorf and the triforce of power's standing. Nicely done.
You're speculating here but it doesn't matter as a magical item has shown the power to negate the triforce of power and as you have already stated he needed a lot of time/hate to return to his full power with the aid of someone else thus taking away from dorf's power and the fact he needed raw emotion to power himself up to normal levels which still wasn't enough.
In vs. threads you don't need to prove a plot device is similar to another one only powerful enough to get the job done. It's like saying the Living Tribunal who can destroy entire universes isn't powerful enough to defeat Dorf which is plain ridiculous.
All mkers need to do is kill Zant and bfr Dorf anyways which Quan Chi alone can accomplish.
Quan Chi is also the most powerful sorcerer/necromancer in the mk verse and has control over the dead so Zant would as anyone else felled in battle who was taken to the netherrealm would be his to command.
Link needs the boots which Bo also has the strength to do so. It's just a question of altering your own weight and it seems anyone can do so in hyrule. Link is strong enough to get the job done but when he comes across foes with armor he needs to strike with skill he is seen as an equal to his foes strength wise.
Mkers strength feats are combat related in the fact they rip each other's arms off, cut their heads off, rip their bodies in half, etc. Link doesn't have the combat strength push he needs here which matters. If Link sees an inanimate object through gear he can persevere but without it he is just a hyrulian trying to land the killer blow. He also has destiny on his side which he won't have here.
Link defeats Bo but that doesn't mean he's stronger just that he eventually has to win sooner or later. If he is stronger it's the slightest of advantages and he wins due to skill and technique as well otherwise he'd easily manhandle Bo. Bo makes it clear without the boots neither can do a thing to a goron.
The first scene is due to the force and speed one would also have riding a horse and the second scene is due to the massive weapon Link can barely hold up.
Link always does improve through experience and skill level changes but his strength doesn't drastically change he just gets gear items necessary to complete his quest.
I see scorpion as taking out Link. The spear, hellfire, or his experience as a ninja seem too much for Link to overcome.