Darth Malgus vs Sith

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And this is Kas'im in comparison:

Unfortunately, he couldn’t shield the Temple around him. The walls exploded into great chunks of rubble. The archway collapsed in a shower of stone, burying Kas’im beneath tons of rock and mortar. A second later the rest of the roof caved in, drowning out the Twi’lek’s dying screams with a deafening rumble.

And this is Vader in comparison:

He raised his gloved hands to defend himself, but the battery continued until, with a crash, the apprentice ripped the energy field generator in the center of the room right out of the floor and hurled it at his former Master.

The generator exploded with greater force than he had expected, throwing him and everyone else to the floor. The transparisteel dome shattered. Debris rained everywhere. The sound of the explosion rang in his ears for an unnaturally long time afterward.

He was the first to his feet, striding across the rubble to where Darth Vader lay face-forward, gravely wounded and stripped of his armor in places. Flesh and machinery showed through the gaps. Finally, some real blood was flowing.

The apprentice stood over him with his lightsaber upraised and ready to strike. His former Master was trying to stand, feebly willing his massive bulk to move as it was supposed to. Servomotors whined and strained. When he rolled over, the apprentice froze.

Darth Vader's helmet had been ripped away by the blast. Beneath was the face of the man who had stolen and enslaved him, a pathetic, hairless thing covered in wrinkles and old scar tissue. Only the eyes showed the slightest signs of life: blue and full of pain, they stared up at him with undisguised weariness.

The Emperor appeared out of the settling smoke, glee on his face. He raised one hand as though to touch the apprentice. The apprentice felt a wave of hypnotic suggestion flow through him.

I'm not seeing what the relevence of those two points are. Kas'im dying from an entire temple collapsing on top of him is somehow unimpressive? Did you forget that Kas'im had just blocked this:

'There was nothing subtle about Bane's attack: the massive shock wave shook the very foundations of the great Rakatan Temple. The concussive blast had enough power to shatter every bone in Kas'im's body and pulverize his flesh into a mass of pulpy liquid. But at the last possible instant he threw up a shield to protect himself from the attack.'

A Force Wave so powerful it shook the very foundations of the temple ('It was in the lowest level of the Temple, far below the planet's surface'😉 and could have liquidised Kas'im's bones? And he did this after fighting Bane in a prolonged duel? That is ****ing incredible. No wonder he couldn't block the descending rubble. He'd just blocked an unbelievably powerful Force Wave.

And as for Vader he wasn't in a position to block anything, nor was there ay indication of how big the energy field generator was, so fail.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Malgus was holding the [B]mountain of rumble with the Force and send the very heavy mass flying back in to various directions. Not to forget that he was badly injured by this time. You think that this is a joke?

You are indeed so full of shit. 🙄

If the same thing had been done by Vader, you would be praising him a lot. You are indeed full of shit and a heavily biased Vader and Bane fanboy.

This feat alone puts Malgus above Vader and Kas'im. Now if yout think that Bane is better, provide a comparable feat.[/b]

haermm

It being a 'mountain of rubble' is obviously exaggeration and hyperbole. The fact is that the text itself only mentions 'the power from his upraised hands preventing several tons of duracrete and steel from crushing him.' Again, several tons isn't that impressive.

Also LOL at you thiking the feat put him above Kas'im and Vader. Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by Nephthys
YouTube video

4.30

That platform Vader is throwing around is at the very least 40 tons. And the kind of force needed to shake and demolish a 20 meter tall temple with lower levels descending far below the surface is incredible, as is Kas'im blocking that kind of power. So in short you once again fail.

Originally posted by Nephthys
His lungs were damaged. And a grenade exploded in his mouth. And you think that you are more logical. 🙄

I am. None of Malgus' injuries were crippling.

Also since when does it become harder to access the Force when you're injured? The Force has nothing to do with 'this crude matter' as Yoda said.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not comparable to the case of Malgus and his two Jedi opponents on Aldeeran. Don't make shitty comparisons.

Yawn.

Originally posted by Nephthys
This impresses you?

I will repeat your statement:

Get the picture?

Actually those assassins were fully trained Umbaran Assassins. The Umbaran Assassins did not accept weaklings.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane was in hopeless condition while he was poisoned. And what TK feats you are talking about? He was driving a Land Crawler. His vehicle hit a rock and overturned.

He telekinetically wielded his lightsaber and levitated people. This was at a point when he couldn't even stand, far worse than Malgus' scrapes. While his TK feats are not as powerful as Malgus', Bane was in far worse condition than him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus while being badly injured performed impressive TK based feats and killed two Jedi. Not to forget that Malgus tolerated a direct grenade explosion in his face. It could have vaporised his skull.

No it couldn't. 😬

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Malgus got a few burns. The Trooper was just as close and got the same treatment, getting even less damaged. Its not a display of durability or Force power since the ordinary human Trooper was less damaged by the same explosion.

Originally posted by Nephthys
There is no comparison in these cases. I don't understand that why you even brought up this case? A sign of your growing desperation? And Malgus is a match for Bane in most aspects. Your assumptions are baseless.

You are growing desperate now.

Ok, now I have to ask.

In WHAT way is Malgus a match for Bane? Bane is far more powerful and skilled in telekinesis. His Force Lightning is far more powerful and intense than Malgus'. Bane is many times faster and is more technically skilled in lightsaber combat. HOW does Malgus stand a chance against Bane? He is outclassed in every conceivable area. Stop being such a ****ing fanboy and just accept that Malgus cannot compare to Bane.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No. Galen is more powerful. He overpowered Vader and could have killed him if he wanted to. Vader, being powerful put up a decent fight but he is not at the same tier as Galen.

He eventually overpowered Vader. But Vader was still able to match him and overpower him at points as well:

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This is like saying that Dooku is in the same tier as Yoda. You overhype Vader a lot. Change this habit.

Dooku is very powerful.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vader and Bane? You put these on par? Bane is more powerful then Vader, genius.

I've already explained to you, no I don't. Stop putting words in my mouth.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Also, explain to me that how would Galen defeat Bane in a good summary.

He probably wouldn't.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And then comes in Jar Kai:

The battle was rejoined, but now it was Bane who was in full retreat. Without proper training, even his enormous command of the Force was unable to anticipate the unfamiliar sequences of the two-handed fighting style. His mind was flooded with a million options of what his opponent might attempt, and he had no experience to draw on to eliminate any of
them. Overwhelmed, he staggered back, floundering with the desperation of a drowning man.

Kao was adept at Jar Kai. More interestingly, Malgus killed with Jar Kai.

Irrelevent. Malgus uses a single lightsaber in combat and doesn't carry a second. Nor does he know Bane's weakness to Jar Kai like Kas'im does.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Another bullshit assumption. 🙄

There can be moments in combat situations in which even the most capable of Jedi and Sith get so much preoccupied that they fail to anticipate surprise attacks.

By your logic, Yoda sucks in precognition too; when Sidious suddenly launched a burst him of lightning and send the Jedi Master packing with it. 🙄

When Malgus is focusing properly, his precognition gets perfect. He also demonstrated the capability of sensing the presence of a hidden Jedi in one of his encounters.

Another moment of you assuming I'm making an assumption.

And we rightly mock and criticise them for it.

Sidious is a Force-wielder and can weaken the Force senses of Jedi (as he did on a galactic scale no less). Malgus got blindsided by a Trooper who ran screaming at him.

Lol @ 'his precognition gets perfect.'

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
CGI effects have been used in the movies, genius.

Not in all cases. The movies purposefully kept the fights small-scale in comparison to the EU. This does not deminish the fighters who appear in the movies, many of which are some of the most powerful of the most powerful.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This does not matters. Dooku lost too while he dueled Obi-Wan and Anakin on a ship.

So? I'm not talking about that case.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
So? Kenobi and Skywalker were not very skilled by that time.

Really?

YouTube video

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They look pretty skilled to me. 😐

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Debatable.

Yes, in the Malgus vs Dooku thread.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I haved stated before that showings in the Force Unleashed are spiced up for entertainment purposes. Droids and soldiers are no match for powerful Jedi and Sith.

And this is not teh case in teh TOR trailers? Lol, your hypocracy in this matter has been called out on many occasions, and rightly so.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
What matters is that how Galen fares against powerful opponents.

He does some incredibly impressive stuff.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Artifical hurricane is simply an augmented version of Force whirlwind.

😐

Not it isn't. Its a Godlike version of Force Push.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And powerful Jedi can withstand very powerful barrages of force. Malgus has shown more then enough in this department.

Malgus will find himself pulverised against a wall if he fought Starkiller.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Same applies to this:

If you are not willing to give fair assessment to all characters here, you will be responded in same coin.

I don't really care.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Shall I remind you that all characters are overpowered in cartoons? Show me more realistic sources.

PencilInEyelulz has rightly called you out on this. The fact is that the cartoons are canon. No matter how much you want to argue.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Kao is comparable to Sidious and Yoda in the movies in terms of TK based feats.

As as a piece of advice, if you start trying to compare Kao of Yoda in a serious fashoin, expect utter contempt from the people on this board.

Its such a laughable position I'm not even going to bother proving you wrong. The evidence is already here. You being an idiot changes nothing.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Have a look at this video:

YouTube video

Yoda had to exert a good deal to perform this feat.

You seem to forget that Yoda was dying when he performed that feat. 😐

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
In terms of capabilities, Kao seems to be between Dooku and Yoda. Unfortunately, we have limited information on Kao.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Either you cannot understand the statements or you are acting gullible.

Focus on duel of Adraas. His bladework was blurry.

The word blur means: "A thing that cannot be seen or heard clearly."

Here;

Adraas loosed a flurry of strikes, [B]his blade a humming, red blur as he spun, stabbed, slashed, and cut.

Try to comprehend this.[/b]

haermm

Blurry!? Oh my god.

Bane wins. Theres no contest. drylaugh

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Those are nice explanations of his skills. However, powerful and experienced characters still gave him hard time in dueling.

Another thing is that a Jedi or Sith adept in the arts of lightsaber can perform amazing lightsaber moves.

Remember rotatory lightsaber moves of General Grievous when he faced Obi-Wan?

In addition, Vindican also performs comparable moves in the Return video. Watch it carefully.

Nice concession.

They can't perform anything like that. 😬

Remember how Grievous has rotating hands? And he isn't a Jedi or Sith?

No, he doesn't. Stop being a fanboy.

Originally posted by PencilInEyelulz
I preface this with the admission that I haven't been reading your arguments, but this isn't convincing me that I should.

You discount your opponent's sources on the basis of being overpowered cartoons and yet you cling desperately to a CGI trailer for Bioware's latest, greatest game? I'm in awe of your temerity: you clearly seem to think that there is no disparity here in what you expect and what you have to offer.

Since we can apparently reject sources at whim, I hereby reject unequivocally your use of trailers and comics {each of which are notorious for "overpowering" characters}, restricting you to the use of novels.

Nephthys wins.

/thread

Thank you.

Originally posted by PencilInEyelulz
I preface this with the admission that I haven't been reading your arguments, but this isn't convincing me that I should.

Originally posted by PencilInEyelulz
You discount your opponent's sources on the basis of being overpowered cartoons and yet you cling desperately to a CGI trailer for Bioware's latest, greatest game? I'm in awe of your temerity: you clearly seem to think that there is no disparity here in what you expect and what you have to offer.

Originally posted by PencilInEyelulz
Since we can apparently reject sources at whim, I hereby reject unequivocally your use of trailers and comics {each of which are notorious for "overpowering" characters}, restricting you to the use of novels.

Originally posted by PencilInEyelulz
Nephthys wins.

/thread

If you don't have massive time, then I am willing to call 'agree to disagree' if you are.

Originally posted by Zampanó
😍 Borborad thought that something I said was funny!

You shall spell my name correctly. It's Borbarad, with "barad" being Sindarin for "Tower". Do your LotR homework. 😉

huh.

my latenight/earlymorning excuse applies to that post too, I guess.

Originally posted by Borbarad
You shall spell my name correctly. It's Borb[b]arad, with "barad" being Sindarin for "Tower". Do your LotR homework. 😉 [/B]

Originally posted by Nephthys
You should change that attitude. There are plenty of impressive individuals below Dooku.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus killd a bunch of Cultists? How does that have any relevence. Bane demonstrated incredible telekinetic mastery by being able to disntergrate entire opponents, dozens of them with the Force. What does Malgus have that can compare? Nothing.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It does not matter. Banes lightning reduced them to ash, a level of power beyond that shown by any other Sith except Sidious himself. Malgus cannot compete.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Like when Kao threw Vindicans lightning at him? awepedo

Originally posted by Nephthys
Again, I do not need to think to school you.

And a hint about Malgus's force lightning:

Impressive, I'll grant him. I've never said he was not. But he is sorely lacking if you think he can match one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever.

They don't compare.

You accept that Banes lightning is beyond him. Good.

...Ok now I'm done.

Malgus did that to a strong opponent - the Jedi who collapsed buildings on him.

Now in comparison, Bane reduced which strong opponent to ash with his Force lightning? Unless you establish that character here, your point is useless.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You seem to have chosen not to bother answering certain points of mine. Anything you did not reply to I'm just going to take as a conscession on your part.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No. 🙄

The other trailers featuring him have already been posted by you during the the course of the thread. I'm not just ignoring his other fights considering I'm debating them with you. When I said that I was talking about what I could find in Decieved, not overall.

And you are throwing garbage statements like these:

Originally posted by Nephthys
Like when Kao threw Vindicans lightning at him? awepedo

And then you claim that you are not just ignoring his other fights. 🙄

Originally posted by Nephthys

Originally posted by Nephthys
Indeed, which is why everyone is agreeing with me and talking about how I'm kicking your ass. Truly my madness hath been exposed!

Originally posted by Nephthys
Any proof?

Originally posted by Nephthys
The link. 😐

It says 'regardless of potential'. Which means that the midichlorian count of the acolyte has no relevence on whether they succeed or fail.

Here is the full statement:

Regardless of potential, few acolytes succeed in facing the rigorous trials to become Sith Inquisitors. Only the most determined acolytes attain such an achievement, but these Sith are often the ones to watch.

What this means is that the candidates do not become Sith Inquisitors on the basis of potential only. They need to show great determination.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Irrelevent. Does this refer to powers being forbidden in the Sith Empire or the greater galaxy, in which all forms of Sith teaching is forbidden?

Originally posted by Nephthys
They can use the Force. Oh my God. 😐

If you want to debate properly, let me know. If not, still let me know and I will stop wasting my time with you.

Originally posted by Nephthys
All sith are seeking to 'Master the Dark Side'. Irrelevent.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Again, excelling as an Inquisitor is not a matter of power but one of cunning, determination and unorthodox practises.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm not seeing anything of relevence here either. They could (not can) use Force Lightning, Force Drain and a lightsaber. Big deal. Unless you are mentioning the obvious hyperbole of their 'unlimited fury'. 🙄

The main point of that statement is that Sith Inquisitors are skilled and powerful.

Originally posted by Nephthys
One can train someone but not be their superior in the Sith Arts. Lumiya was certainly not Caedus' superior and yet she taught him. Theres also teh simple fact that all Sith apprentices hide their true strength once they start to eclipse their masters. Malgus had obviously surpassed Vindican by that point.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also theres the fact that Vindican was trained as an Inquisitor while Malgus was a Sith Warrior. Given that Malgus specialised in lightsaber combat and 'his brute strength and dueling abilities' as you pointed out, one must question how much Vindican truly taught him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
More impressive than whom?

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'll bare this in mind for when you critisise Maul for not utilising excessive Force powers. Know that some focus on the physical aspects of lightsaber fighting over Force powers, like Malgus in that trailer.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Are you again talking about how you think the lightsaber fighting in the trailer was more impressive than the Phantom Menace? Actually, I disagree. The Maul fight was much faster-paced and frenetic than that of Kao's lightsaber fighting, and displayed quicker and more skillful choreography.

Watch both now:

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There is no comparison between skills of Kao and those PT era characters. Kao is much more impressive.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Actually I was agreeing with you. As much as you may be surprised, I do not hate Kao, and find him pretty ****ing awesome.

According to teh Urban Dictonary Badass can be defned as:

someone who is so cool that their very presence is radiating with awesomeness.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No I just find it silly that you're trying to establish Malgus' power by establishing Kao's power by establishing Mauls power who you happen to think was 'less impressive' (meaning that you personally weren't impressed by him as much) than Kao. We are way off point right now, and our posts are becoming too long and meandering.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No. In fact thats the very opposite of what I said.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Define 'more impressive.' Maul was able to outrun point-blank explosions and out-duel a man (Anoon Bondara) whose lightsaber abilities were 'second to none' in an Order with ****ing Yoda and Mace Windu in it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He toyed with and defeated Qui-Gon Jinn, a man who could stalemate Mace Windu in training duels.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Maul himself was described as 'one of the most dangerous Sith apprentices ever.'

Originally posted by Nephthys
Incorrect. We should not make any assumptions.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not as skilled as Maul.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Kao was also more adept than Malgus in applications of the Force. And he died by his blade. awepedo

Think twice before you make a point.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't see how that counters what I said. Nothing there suggests that he could not have been building his power for the deed. Simply because he made a physical gesture does not eliminate that possibility.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Now you're nitpicking.

So? How does that not prove the man was drained from his exertion?

More responses will come later on.

I'll take that as a 'no' on my offer.

Also if you continue to bash me I will report you.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I don't have massive time.

I offered him a truce. awesrg

If he really had such little time he'd of taken it.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

I am not rejecting the sources. However, I dislike the inconsistencies. In the cartoons, Master Yoda is depicted as a Force Titan. In the movies, he is depicted as a lot less in comparison. Which incarnation should we take seriously?

Kid, if you want to use that argument then your precious TOR trailers feats are also forfeited by your own words.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Trailers are much more realistic in comparison to those cartoons. No characters have been overpowered in the Trailers. The novels also support the Trailers. Now come up with better excuse next time.

Everyone here is calling out your hypocrisy.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
You disliking the inconsistencies doesn't mean its not canon. So Yoda being depicted as a force titan in the EU and less of a titan in the movies mean what? That because the movie is G-canon therefore Yodas, Vaders, Sidious, and Mace feats are all forfeited?

My point has been clear from the beginning that Kao's telekinetic feats are on par with depictions of Yoda and Sidious in the movies, which are most realistic. There is nothing wrong with my assessment. Deal with it.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
Kid, if you want to use that argument then your precious TOR trailers feats are also forfeited by your own words.
Obvious Hypocrite, some of the feats done in the TOR trailers are even more overpowered looking than TFU and the cartoons(Satale blocking a saber with her bare hands?), what kind of BS argument are you trying to come up with?

Everyone here is calling out your hypocrisy.

However, inconsistencies are clearly apparent between depictions of PT characters between movies, games, and cartoons in terms of showings in the applications of the Force. Not my fault.

Also, you don't have a problem with depictions of PT characters blocking force lightning with bare hands but you do have a problem with Satele blocking lightsaber strike with bare hands? Is this not hypocrisy? 🙄

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also if you continue to bash me I will report you.

1. You do not pay attention to my points.
2. You make baseless assumptions.
3. You quote terms out of context.

You do realize that debates on these subjects can get lengthy and responses may require time and effort? And when they bore no fruit and are misunderstood, then this defeats the purpose of the debate in the first place. And I dislike this.

I am willing to pay attention to your points if you are willing to give mine fair treatment. With this approach, discipline will be maintained automatically. Otherwise, this will turn in to bash-fest which I do not intend to get in to.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
😕 I think everyone here is disinclined to agree.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm not seeing what the relevence of those two points are. Kas'im dying from an entire temple collapsing on top of him is somehow unimpressive?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Did you forget that Kas'im had just blocked this:

'There was nothing subtle about Bane's attack: the massive shock wave shook the very foundations of the great Rakatan Temple. The concussive blast had enough power to shatter every bone in Kas'im's body and pulverize his flesh into a mass of pulpy liquid. But at the last possible instant he threw up a shield to protect himself from the attack.'

Malgus was hit by several powerful explosions during his fight on Aldeeran. And he also tolerated a very powerful attack from Satele which shattered the large rocky boulder around him. And yet Malgus tolerated all of this and again engaged in another duel and won.

Originally posted by Nephthys
A Force Wave so powerful it shook the very foundations of the temple ('It was in the lowest level of the Temple, far below the planet's surface'😉 and could have liquidised Kas'im's bones?

Originally posted by Nephthys
And he did this after fighting Bane in a prolonged duel? That is ****ing incredible. No wonder he couldn't block the descending rubble. He'd just blocked an unbelievably powerful Force Wave.

Face it, there is no comparison between Kas'im and Malgus. Malgus is considerably powerful then him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And as for Vader he wasn't in a position to block anything, nor was there ay indication of how big the energy field generator was, so fail.

Originally posted by Nephthys
haermm

It being a 'mountain of rubble' is obviously exaggeration and hyperbole. The fact is that the text itself only mentions 'the power from his upraised hands preventing several tons of duracrete and steel from crushing him.' Again, several tons isn't that impressive.

Several by definition means more then two. The rubble was described as a mountain of durasteel and transparisteel objects. And Malgus held all of that and then send it flying back in to various directions. That is very impressive.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also LOL at you thiking the feat put him above Kas'im and Vader. Jesus Christ.

Vader is good at performing impressive telekinetic feats but he is not good at defending against them. If Vader was so exceptional, why do you think that Sidious wanted more powerful apprentice?

Originally posted by Nephthys
That platform Vader is throwing around is at the very least 40 tons.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And the kind of force needed to shake and demolish a 20 meter tall temple with lower levels descending far below the surface is incredible, as is Kas'im blocking that kind of power. So in short you once again fail.

Originally posted by Nephthys

Originally posted by Nephthys
I am. None of Malgus' injuries were crippling.

The pilot also pointed out that Malgus was badly injured. You fail.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also since when does it become harder to access the Force when you're injured? The Force has nothing to do with 'this crude matter' as Yoda said.

Also quote that whole quote of Yoda here.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yawn.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Actually those assassins were fully trained Umbaran Assassins. The Umbaran Assassins did not accept weaklings.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He telekinetically wielded his lightsaber and levitated people. This was at a point when he couldn't even stand, far worse than Malgus' scrapes.

Originally posted by Nephthys
While his TK feats are not as powerful as Malgus', Bane was in far worse condition than him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No it couldn't. 😬

Originally posted by Nephthys
YouTube video

Malgus got a few burns. The Trooper was just as close and got the same treatment, getting even less damaged. Its not a display of durability or Force power since the ordinary human Trooper was less damaged by the same explosion.

2. Commando kept his face low and the blast send him flying back. Malgus absorbed much of its damage.

3. Malgus tolerated the powerful force attack of Satele which shattered the large rocky boulder around him.

Here;

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
His breathing sounded like a rasp over wood. His skin stung from burns. A Republic commando has exploded a grenade in his face, and combat with a Jedi witch had damaged his lungs. Lacerations and contusions made a grim mosaic on his flesh.

When he planned to engage the Jedi, the pilot of his vessel said this:

"Return, my Lord? Where are you going? You're seriously wounded."

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Ok, now I have to ask.

In WHAT way is Malgus a match for Bane? Bane is far more powerful and skilled in telekinesis. His Force Lightning is far more powerful and intense than Malgus'. Bane is many times faster and is more technically skilled in lightsaber combat. HOW does Malgus stand a chance against Bane? He is outclassed in every conceivable area. Stop being such a ****ing fanboy and just accept that Malgus cannot compare to Bane.

1. Malgus easily matches the strength of Bane. He feels no pain.

2. Maglus also matches Bane in telekinetic abilities. His showings on Aldeeran affirm my position. Even if we assume that Bane is better in this regard, Malgus packs great tolerance which balances him out.

3. Malgus's force lightning is lethal and he can overwhelm even strong opponents with it and have actually killed some with it. You have yet to demonstrate comparable example from Bane in this regard. I fully accept that Bane's force lightning is also overwhelming but I need to see that which powerful opponents he struck down with it.

4. Malgus holds his own in lightsaber combat against skilled duelists. The bladework of Lord Adraas has been particularly defined as blurry to eyes. In comparison, Bane is also an impressive duelist but he failed to defeat other impressive duelists; Kas'im and Lsu. He overpowered Zannah though but she lacks impressive strength and relies on sorcery.

5. Malgus has several 'prominent' kills under his belt and he killed all of them on the basis of his own skills and power. I can recall 4 at least. There would have been more. In comparison, Bane does not have much bright history. He killed Kas'im. However, Lsu was struck down by Zannah, and he was defeated by Zannah.

There goes your hyperboles.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Inconsistencies are a problem whether you accept it or not. They do not make sense from logical perspective. Still the power of Yoda is irrelevant in this debate.

My point has been clear from the beginning that Kao's telekinetic feats are on par with depictions of Yoda and Sidious in the [B]movies, which are most realistic. There is nothing wrong with my assessment. Deal with it.
[/B]

You really take things out of context.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

There is no overpowering of SWTOR characters. There is strong consistency between depictions of SWTOR characters in both novels and trailers. Only difference is that more detailed explanation is available in the novels.

Such as you using TOR trailers to back your argument up when you disregard and ignore other mediums that actually depict the said characters that completely out match the ones in TOR.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

However, inconsistencies are clearly apparent between depictions of PT characters between movies, games, and cartoons in terms of showings in the applications of the Force. Not my fault.

That is simply just one inconsistency of the thousands there are in SW, does this then make the said feats not canon? No, it does not, thats something you, including the rest of us, need to deal with.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Also, you don't have a problem with depictions of PT characters blocking force lightning with bare hands but you do have a problem with Satele blocking lightsaber strike with bare hands? Is this not hypocrisy? 🙄

Seriously, i will repeat this again, calling me, nepth or anybody a 'PT fanboy' for not agreeing with you doesn't change the fact that you are the most fanatically devoted individual to a bunch of fictional characters from a particular era and is absolutely desperate to win a single debate seeing how you get your ass handed to you countless times in the past.

No offence but the way you act and behave almost makes you the Jihad of KMC.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

No, Vader was hurling objects like missiles at Galen until he made his move. That one move which Vader failed to defend against and got badly injured. Vader also does not compares to Malgus in terms of tolerance and defenses.

And vader can't defend against force attacks? Then explain how did he block Kentos attack that instantly killed all his stormtroopers?

Not to mention in the second game that even the combined might of 3 giant lightning rods, the lightning storm, and the lightning from Galen barely caused Vader much damage and only brought him to his knees.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
Keyword : in the movies. In the EU, he is absolutely out classed and outmatched. Deal with it.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
You really take things out of context.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
I can say the same for the TFU games, novels and trailers, so your point is obviously smashed to pieces. No doubt there are inconsistencies but the point is we are pointing out how you are an absolutely desperate hypocrite.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
Such as you using TOR trailers to back your argument up when you disregard and ignore other mediums that actually depict the said characters that completely out match the ones in TOR.

I did not ignored other mediums. I focus on the logical depth of the materials presented. If Kao is as impressive as Yoda and Sidious (featured in the movies) in some aspects of the Force, who says that he cannot be comparable in the cartoons if he is ever featured in them?

Keep in mind that cartoons are not expensive to develop and things can be openly depicted in them. There is no limit in the cartoons. However, when you shift towards other mediums like novels and movies, you have to work within the boundaries of realism.

Remember how Drew contrasted between games and novels? This is my point. I am doing the same between cartoons and movies.

However, Yoda is irrelevant in this thread. I believe that he is more powerful then Kao when considering all sources featuring Yoda. Also, Kao is a new entry. We will learn more about him with passage of time.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
There are inconsistencies all over SW, deal with it. Really? Sadow has been stated to be a very powerful sith lord, and the only thing we saw him do with the force is hurl a friggin brick at his opponent, you mean thats not an inconsistency?

Originally posted by shinkoryu
That is simply just one inconsistency of the thousands there are in SW, does this then make the said feats not canon? No, it does not, thats something you, including the rest of us, need to deal with.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
Apples to oranges buddy. Blocking lightning with your bare hands is one thing, but blocking it from a saber strike is a completely different feat.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
Seriously, i will repeat this again, calling me, nepth or anybody a 'PT fanboy' for not agreeing with you doesn't change the fact that you are the most fanatically devoted individual to a bunch of fictional characters from a particular era and is absolutely desperate to win a single debate seeing how you get your ass handed to you countless times in the past.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
No offence but the way you act and behave almost makes you the Jihad of KMC.