Rage.Of.Olympus
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Originally posted by h1a8
"Only" was to mean he didn't have all of it. Again it could have been 1/3, 1/4, 4/7, etc.
Okay, if you want to be dense about it, then I’ll simply point out that Odin was noticeably weakened when he empowered Heimdall.
Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree with the Odin Power logic. The power was named after Odin since he was he who acquired it from his brothers. He wasn't born with it. Without it he still can live as a normal Asgardian hybrid. And Odin did have powers and strength before the Odin power. Thus he wouldn't be powerless without it.
The Odin Power is Odin, his life essence:
It empowers him and is the life blood of all of Asgard. As it is now, without the Odin Power, Odin is no more:
And as long as it exists, Odin cannot truly perish:
There’s a reason why he absorbed power from the land to combat Seth after transferring his reserves into Thor. Do you think I'm making this shit up or something?
Simonson’s retcon doesn’t fit perfectly with continuity but I don’t think it was ever supposed to. Whatever force sustained them before the Odin Power was either folded into it or replaced by it if you want it to mesh with continuity as a whole.
Originally posted by h1a8
I agree. That is why I'm only arguing for a full confidence (or at least very high) Glads.
If you agree, then why do you think Gladiator is magically underperforming in his battles with Thor? The Gladiator that battled Masterson and what not was Gladiator at his best. He only goes downhill from there when his confidence becomes an issue.
Originally posted by h1a8
Gladiator's strength is dependent upon his confidence. Thus an average Gladiator would mean one with average confidence. If that is the case then Odin wins hands down. But using a very high confidence Glads is a different story. Glads would now have the strength and speed edge on his side. And everyone here (including you) are using Odin's high feats to determine that he would be stronger than Glads. Or the bias fact that since he is a skyfather then he SHOULD be stronger by definition.
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Yes, but it is not an ever increasing level of strength like the Hulk’s. His levels only go downward.
Could you please point me to an appearances of this supposed “full confident” Gladiator and we can compare him to Odin.
I’m not using Odin’s best, not by any stretch of imagination.
It is however ironic that you whine about using Odin’s best after reading your post.
Originally posted by h1a8
But Odin never shown to be as physically strong as Glads. Even Heimdall hasn't shown it. I disagree with selling punches logic. The evidence is in the effect and not in the talking. We have hyperbole all over the place. I'm more of a what is shown type of guy and less of what a writer is trying to portray type of guy. Otherwise, many feats have to be unusable since writers didn't know how much it took to do a feat and had characters doing stuff outside of their intended bounds.
You good sir are an idiot. There’s quite honestly no other conclusion I can come to after having debated with you. This isn’t me being intentionally mean or anything of the sort. This is an actual observation.
Originally posted by h1a8
Note: I said quantifiable feats. I have to disagree that Thor had the gravity of a neutron star since the Earth underneath him didn't break unto him. If we accept the logic though that would mean that Planets have super human durability that are able to withstand the force of a neutron star pulling on them without breaking to pieces. And that would mean Glads feat is far more greater. In general, I don't accept what is said but rather what is shown.
Fine then, point me to this apparently quantifiable feat.
😐 You’re arguing against the feat because the ground didn’t cave in? That’s not a defense.
I don’t give a shit what logic you have to accept to justify feats in your head. That particular planet was superhumanly durablese. Shut up now.
Originally posted by h1a8
I never do such a thing. I may use math to back up what I say or even other comic evidence but never to I pull made up stuff out. You can name almost anything, I will either state a comic feat which holds the evidence to what I said or show you the math to what I said.
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