Sebastian Shaw (movie) vs Thor (movie)

Started by Tazer16 pages

Yo.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
We never saw Thor get put down by anything so clearly his ability to soak up damage is unlimited. That goes without saying.

Thor also didnt soak up MASSIVE amounts of dmg, so I cant agree that his ability to do so would be unlimited.......

Tazer

Originally posted by Silent Master
Forgot about the no BFR part. but Thor could just pick him up with the tornado and then keep adding power to it as Shaw tries and absorb it.

Problem answering such quesition is because we still don't know Shaw limits.
But if he would absorb it (he was capable of nuclear reactor), maybe then he could just simply resist it and go through it when neccessary.

How can he resist it if he's in the air?

It's safe to say that Shaw has a limit. The fact that it wasn't even overloaded by a nuclear reactor though means that it is going to be pretty fn high for a movie comic book character.

Yo.

Originally posted by Silent Master
How can he resist it if he's in the air?

he cant, but its not like Shaw couldnt use up the energy he absorbed either.

Thors only chance of success while keeping Shaw suspended would be to hit him with too much energy at once & he cant expunge it..............except we dont know if thats possible.

Tazer

Shaw must have been beastly in that movie.

He is.

Originally posted by the ninjak
No he did'nt comic version gained superspeed.

So if Xavier shut Rogues mind down you could make out with her huh?

No

We are forced to believe Shaw's powers work off of his brain. This is because bullets didn't even go through him and they had sharper edges. Our brains control our hearts and other things so it is feasible to believe Shaw's brain controls his absorption of energy.

Originally posted by h1a8
We are forced to believe Shaw's powers work off of his brain. This is because bullets didn't even go through him and they had sharper edges. Our brains control our hearts and other things so it is feasible to believe Shaw's brain controls his absorption of energy.

1. Interesting considering Magneto's power is based off mental states. But Shaw never brought it up. Bullets = Fast, Coin = Slow. Some mutants powers are always on full power others require mental aid.

2. If Shaw fell into water would he sink or walk on water? If he could control any kinetic contact around his body he should be able to walk through walls. But he can't. I say a hurricane will lift him up from underneath.

3. Thor had such an incredible control over tornadoes that he could lift the Destroyer.
And keep him in place while deflecting two blows.
Then proceeded to hold the Destroyer in place while he overloaded it with enough power to blast the sky. After which the armor slowly fell.
Physics says Thor has absolute control over the intensity and positioning of a Tornado. And if he wanted he could keep the epicenter on Shaw and suffocate him.

4. Going by your reasoning once Shaw loses his concentration Thor can just blast him.

lol

I can see the argument that shaw works off mental use...

I even agree that his latent ability is always on but he can increase his ability through mental use...

But I believe it was more that the force magneto exerted on the quarter was greater than shows ability to absorb.

Does anyone have any uber h2h feats for these agents that for beat to prove Thor was any good at fighting skill and not just brawling

Originally posted by Nihilist
Does anyone have any uber h2h feats for these agents that for beat to prove Thor was any good at fighting skill and not just brawling

Why? Thor can lift Shaw into a hurricane. If Shaw can't touch the ground he is screwed.

Spite; movie Thor annihilates Shaw...

Yeah because he'll do that 10/10 won't he , just like he did against the frost giants......oh that's right he didn't did he ninjerk

I think Thor flies thru him and rips him open...absorb this *****.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Yeah because he'll do that 10/10 won't he , just like he did against the frost giants......oh that's right he didn't did he ninjerk

No because there where many of them. And they also had long distance enchanted ice shards to shoot. Plus allies on the ground.

The Destroyer on the other hand. Thor went up and did what he did yes 10/10.

And why do I evoke anger amongst some of you. I'm a nice guy. I'm just fighting alone here.

My god you're stupid, fighting many foes at once would be a far greater reason to do the hurricane trick. And how is Thor gonna do it 10/10 when out of all the fights he had (Lokin,Frost /Giants and Destroyer) he only did it the once.

Who cares if you're a nice guy, it matter not in this debate.

No you're an idiot. As I posted above why would he create a hurricane in frozen colosseum WITH HIS ALLIES IN IT?

Plus abandoning his friends during the battle would'nt have been a very good idea would it?

Watch the movie again.

Thor could try a few things:

1) The overload method by suspending Shaw in a tornado and letting Shaw absorb the energy from it indefinitely until he reached his limit. Assist with the process by constantly blasting him with lightning (and maybe throw in hailstones if he can). But can't really tell what Shaw's limit is or how long it might take to overload him if it would work at all.

2) Non-stop torrential downpour of the heaviest possible monsoonal rain until Shaw is drowned. Would depend on the landscape to do this so maybe combine this attack with suspending him in the tornado. Imagine Shaw trying to breath inside a 200-300mph spinning maelstrom of water.

3) If Thor's weather control is up to it, attempt a coldsnap attack of ice, sleet, snow, and below-zero air temperatures and wind-chill. It would actually be reducing the amount of available kinetic energy while killing Shaw via hypothermia.