I dont know if anyone noticed, but Thor didn't loose once in the Movie (not counting him being owned by Odin), he beat everything that came his way. The frost giants, the giant frost beast, the shield agents, hell, he even beat the Destroyer armor.
now, Sebastian Shaw in the new X-men movie was kinda cool. But if you get right down to it, only reason he was beating Magneto was coz magneto still sucked balls at using his powers. Then there were the untrained bunch of mutants he faced (kinda)...talk about lame.
nothing in the movie would suggest that he would survive a hammer toss from Thor, the likes that punctured a hole through the frost creature thing.
If anything, it showed that He needed time to absorb larger or greater quantities of energy. He needed some time to absorb the grenade, and Havoks blast, not to mention he needed lots and lots of time to absorb the nuclear energy thing. This leads me to believe that the speed and power of a hit from Thor would just plain outright kill him as he wouldn't have the needed time to absorb such an amount of energy.
Yo.
Originally posted by Mindset
How is Thor gonna do that when Shaw could jst blast him away?
how would he do that? he hasnt been hit by anything yet.....
Originally posted by Silent Master
Does Shaw usually start out with enough of a charge to hurt Thor?
its pure fan-spec either way, but be perfectly honest: not that we saw in the movie
Originally posted by the ninjak
In close range combat Shaw can create kinetic blasts. which will repel Thor away.He can also create chunks of concentrated kinetic energy and release it into the air slowly. Kinda like Gambit's energy but much more advanced.
Thor will learn quickly that taking on Shaw in close range isn't a good idea and will have to resort to more creative methods.
Like focus a hurricane right on top of him. Take the air out. Lift him into the air and dump in as you guys said, in water.
again, putting a person in a choke hold isnt the same kind of fight as beating on them; Thor could grab Shaw by the small of his neck and simply let Shaw swing @ him until he passes out FTW since he didnt pass on any real kinetic energy for him to convert in STR.
Tazer
Originally posted by TazerIt's out of character to immediately start like that.
Yo.Thor *did* get into a few rasslin' holds when went after his hammer, so its not out-of-character for him to do so
Tazer
And Shaw always had kinetic energy stored, that's how he stayed young, and he could gain more by hitting himself against Thor or the ground. It's impossible for Thor to keep Shaw from gaining energy.
A chokehold is not going to work on Shaw.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgoSigh.
I dont know if anyone noticed, but Thor didn't loose once in the Movie (not counting him being owned by Odin), he beat everything that came his way. The frost giants, the giant frost beast, the shield agents, hell, he even beat the Destroyer armor.now, Sebastian Shaw in the new X-men movie was kinda cool. But if you get right down to it, only reason he was beating Magneto was coz magneto still sucked balls at using his powers. Then there were the untrained bunch of mutants he faced (kinda)...talk about lame.
nothing in the movie would suggest that he would survive a hammer toss from Thor, the likes that punctured a hole through the frost creature thing.
If anything, it showed that He needed time to absorb larger or greater quantities of energy. He needed some time to absorb the grenade, and Havoks blast, not to mention he needed lots and lots of time to absorb the nuclear energy thing. This leads me to believe that the speed and power of a hit from Thor would just plain outright kill him as he wouldn't have the needed time to absorb such an amount of energy.
Shaw absorbed every attack within a few seconds.
It's already been explained why it took time to absorb the energy of a nuclear reactor.
Originally posted by Mindset
Sigh.Shaw absorbed every attack within a few seconds.
It's already been explained why it took time to absorb the energy of a nuclear reactor.
and the key word here is "few seconds"
how long did it take Thor to bust through the frost Beast? It was like "BAM", there's the hole through the beast in the blink of an eye.
again, unless it can be proven that shaw can indeed absorb the amount of power that Thor's strike will deliver in a split second, imo, any hammer smash from Thor would outright kill Shaw.
Originally posted by carver9
Shaw must didn't show super strength in that movie?
he did, after absorbing some massive nuclear energy.
now, i haven't been following the X-men for a very very long time...but wasn't Sebastian's powers just absorbing kinetic energy and turning it into physical strength/stats?
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
he did, after absorbing some massive nuclear energy.now, i haven't been following the X-men for a very very long time...but wasn't Sebastian's powers just absorbing kinetic energy and turning it into physical strength/stats?
This is movie Shaw. And he displayed super strength after absorbing Havoks energy plus he may have displayed more of it when he entered the Pentagon at the doors. I can't remember. Anyway, people couldn't touch Shaw without him absorbing and re-directing the energy back at them how is Movie Thor going to touch him?
Also funny enough Shaw displayed better speed feats then Thor in the movie. You can see that from the effect when he uses his powers his hands move really fast to contain all the energy emitted from the grenade and absorb all the energy from the shrapnel too.
Comic book Shaw amped all his stats, speed, durability and physical strength. But movie Shaw's powers are more sensitive and much broader.
Originally posted by Silent Master
We can't grant him more power than he showed in the movie, so what is the biggest feat he performed without being shown to absorb energy?
Absolutely nothing.
Originally posted by Mindset
I'm beginning to doubt you've accurately followed the discussion...Maybe try reading the post I was replying to first.
Thor is not putting Shaw in a choke hold and holding him there, that's retarded.
Who said choke? I said carry him to a lake and drown him. Read my argument before calling it retarded please.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgoNo, it's not. Because he absorbed bullets instantly. Physical attacks didn't hurt him, it just took more time for him to absorb and use as his own energy. What you are trying to say doesn't make sense, because what your saying is an explosion would be hurting him because he didn't show to absorb it all instantly, that is not the case.
and the key word here is "few seconds"how long did it take Thor to bust through the frost Beast? It was like "BAM", there's the hole through the beast in the blink of an eye.
again, unless it can be proven that shaw can indeed absorb the amount of power that Thor's strike will deliver in a split second, imo, any hammer smash from Thor would outright kill Shaw.
Originally posted by Mindset
No, it's not. Because he absorbed bullets instantly. Physical attacks didn't hurt him, it just took more time for him to absorb and use as his own energy. What you are trying to say doesn't make sense, because what your saying is an explosion would be hurting him because he didn't show to absorb it all instantly, that is not the case.
I'll have to watch the movie again, but I can't recall Magnetos assault at the end budging Shaw either. I don't recall an instant in the movie where he was manhandled or that anyone was able to lay a finger on him. Even when Xavier shut off his powers he was still fighting back you can see that from Kevin Bacons movements.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakHe wasn't hurt in the movie while his powers were active.
I'll have to watch the movie again, but I can't recall Magnetos assault at the end budging Shaw either. I don't recall an instant in the movie where he was manhandled or that anyone was able to lay a finger on him. Even when Xavier shut off his powers he was still fighting back you can see that from Kevin Bacons movements.
Just larger amounts of energy made him shake longer, iirc, so the assumption is it took more time to absorb, but it's irrelevant because he was never hurt while he was in the process of absorbing energy.