Originally posted by Nihilist
@ ninjerk, thanks for proving you're are backwards as Thors hurrican had no effect on the humans stood nearbye. So argument is turd as Thor was at the otherside battle area
When focusing his tornado on one being yes he was able to localize it. But in a huge Frozen Arena? Sure he'll take up a bunch of Giants but he was more efficient on the ground.
When he could have remained on the ground smashing them apart or even better using his wide burst shot that tore the ground up.
Get over yourself dude. Why don't you take a chill pill. Brave man of the interwebs.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Just a load of excuses really, its ok because you're a nice guy.
Thanks. 🙂 Though it wasn't a bad idea to suck up Giants into a tornado. It's just with his friends fighting for their lives, the giants running in from all sides and heights and alot of the monsters having the ability to shoot ice shards that managed to take Odin's eye out. It would've been smarter to stay on the ground.
He was spinning his hammer as a shield at one stage. Using the debris from the broken ground to keep them at bay. Thor was also more brazen and selfish at the beginning of the film as well as aggressive and arrogant.
It doesn't mean much but when he fought the Destroyer he was wiser.
More crap as Thor thought his friends were safe as they were at the other end of the battlefield after running from the beast, which Thor believed he had killed with his hammer floor strike. At this point Thor was surrounded at ground lvl by all the frost giants which would have been a easy time to unleash his hurricane.
Originally posted by Nihilist
More crap as Thor thought his friends were safe as they were at the other end of the battlefield after running from the beast, which Thor believed he had killed with his hammer floor strike. At this point Thor was surrounded at ground lvl by all the frost giants which would have been a easy time to unleash his hurricane.
The ground blast was a much more time effective attack while his friends were running away. He had to fly after that giant creature.
This isn't really relevant is it?
Why is it so important to you for Thor to have used a hurricane instead of blasting the landmass apart?
He'd absorb the kinetic energy from a hurricane..
I think by saying no BFR, makes this kind of difficult for Thor, otherwise Id just say Thor just chucks him into space or something.
Either way Thor's gna have to be smart with this one. He has to make sure he attacks him in a way where Shaw can not absorb any energy from Thor's attack.
Im thinking of a much simpler approach. What if Thor just carries Shaw to a lake and drowns him??
Originally posted by Mindset
How is Thor gonna do that when Shaw could jst blast him away?
1) Your assuming Shaw has absorbed a load of kinetic energy before this fight.
2) Thor can either absorb any blasts with Mjolnir (like he did the Destroyer's blasts), or even if he gets hit, he's a God. Im betting he can take it.
Im just saying if Thor was smart he could do something simple like that. But chances are Thor will be arrogant and start hammering away at him.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERYou're assuming Thor is going to go for the choke as soon as the fight starts, or that Shaw doesn't have a reserve of kinetic energy already, or that he can't simply stomp his foot and gain more.
1) Your assuming Shaw has absorbed a load of kinetic energy before this fight.2) Thor can either absorb any blasts with Mjolnir (like he did the Destroyer's blasts), or even if he gets hit, he's a God. Im betting he can take it.
Im just saying if Thor was smart he could do something simple like that. But chances are Thor will be arrogant and start hammering away at him.
How is Thor going to absorb a blast with Mjolnir while choking Shaw and when the energy will be going right into Thor since they are already touching?
I'm just saying that scenario is doesn't make any sense.
In close range combat Shaw can create kinetic blasts. which will repel Thor away.
He can also create chunks of concentrated kinetic energy and release it into the air slowly. Kinda like Gambit's energy but much more advanced.
Thor will learn quickly that taking on Shaw in close range isn't a good idea and will have to resort to more creative methods.
Like focus a hurricane right on top of him. Take the air out. Lift him into the air and dump in as you guys said, in water.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Does Shaw usually start out with enough of a charge to hurt Thor?
The movie never mentioned. But he always had enough power to perform feats on occasion. He was very mysterious. But there's no reason to believe he doesn't for the sake of a forum fight. It's a situational question.
Originally posted by Mindset
You're assuming Thor is going to go for the choke as soon as the fight starts,
Actually I didn't. I said if Thor was cool headed and played it smart (assuming he knows what Shaws powers are) then that is something simple he could do to defeat him. But chances are he'd be arrogant and probably just Hammer on him.
Originally posted by Mindset
or that Shaw doesn't have a reserve of kinetic energy already,
Ok, so he's absorbed some bullets and bombs. It would not be enough to put Thor down. Every time Thor tries to carry Shaw, Shaw would unload on him. He'd run out of kinetic energy eventually though. Unless your gna assume he's just absrobed something ridiculous like a nulear reactor before this fight??
Originally posted by Mindset
or that he can't simply stomp his foot and gain more.
You serious? You think stomping his foot is going to give him enough kinetic energy to overpower Thor?? I seriously doubt it.
And if Thor just lifts him he wnt be able to stomp his foot.
Originally posted by the ninjak
The movie never mentioned. But he always had enough power to perform feats on occasion. He was very mysterious. But there's no reason to believe he doesn't for the sake of a forum fight. It's a situational question.
We can't grant him more power than he showed in the movie, so what is the biggest feat he performed without being shown to absorb energy?