Originally posted by darthmaul1
Dark knight rises will blow them all out of the water.
Most probably. But you can never know for sure with these things.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
More excited for the Avengers and ASM than TDKR. I have no doubt TDKR will be a good movie, but I'm not psyched for it.
Most of us comic book fanboys are more psyched for The Avengers. But your general movie fan is more looking forward to TDKR.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
agreed, i do think the avengers will do very very well, but the amazing spiderman i think will do well but not that well
Same here, don't get me wrong i'm looking forward to the avengers and maybe spiderman, but i thinkg the dark knight just appeals to more people and non comic book fans cause it's more grounded in reality.
Let's face it with enough money and the proper connections anyone can become batman.
I have a feeling I will have the opposite reaction from the TDKR than most people. I thought the Dark Knight was a massive let down and nothing I've seen so far from TDKR has even slightly impressed me (that trailer was awful and the football scene was some grade A Stephen Sommers crap out of GI Joe or something). My expectations couldn't be lower for the movie, I wouldn't be shocked if I am pleasantly surprised by the final product. I suspect people who thought that The Dark Knight was the second coming of Christ, and are going into this movie with huge expectations will be disappointed though. Batman should still easily take the top spot for genre films this summer, unless Avengers blows up.
Right now I'm most excited for ASM. It had the best trailer so far. I'm thinking Spider-man will pull a X-Men First Class and be the best superhero movie of the summer despite low original expectations and a terrible first trailer.
You've obviously met some of the people I'm talking about. They are the worst. Most of them aren't even comic book fans. Whenever someone finds out I like comics they always want to talk about how great The Dark Knight is and how awesome Heath Ledger was as the Joker... and then I have tell them that they are wrong and break their little hearts.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You've obviously met some of the people I'm talking about. They are the worst. Most of them aren't even comic book fans. Whenever someone finds out I like comics they always want to talk about how great The Dark Knight is and how awesome Heath Ledger was as the Joker... and then I have tell them that they are wrong and break their little hearts.
I have, yeah, lol.
Like when TDK first came out, I really did enjoy it for what it was worth. In hindsight, after the Ledger praise (which he does deserve due to his acting), and the "hype" died down, I do think Batman Begins was the better film. TDK had some plot holes that I normally would have called out, but the whole Ledger thing and the fact that we were getting Joker and Two-Face, arguably two of his most popular rogues are more recognizable than Ra's al Ghul, helped to put those out of my mind for a time.
I think it was a good movie and it certainly made Hollywood take pause when it came to superhero movies, but it wasn't perfect. It doesn't help that some people who don't follow comics regularly watch the film and then try to lecture people who do their shit on who Batman is as a character. And of course, you have people who just hate on it for the sake of hating. I find myself a fan of the series and of the movie in question, but I don't see them in Bat shaped lens, either.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I have, yeah, lol.Like when TDK first came out, I really did enjoy it for what it was worth. In hindsight, after the Ledger praise (which he does deserve due to his acting), and the "hype" died down, I do think Batman Begins was the better film. TDK had some plot holes that I normally would have called out, but the whole Ledger thing and the fact that we were getting Joker and Two-Face, arguably two of his most popular rogues are more recognizable than Ra's al Ghul, helped to put those out of my mind for a time.
I think it was a good movie and it certainly made Hollywood take pause when it came to superhero movies, but it wasn't perfect. It doesn't help that some people who don't follow comics regularly watch the film and then try to lecture people who do their shit on who Batman is as a character. And of course, you have people who just hate on it for the sake of hating. I find myself a fan of the series and of the movie in question, but I don't see them in Bat shaped lens, either.
My general rule of thumb is that any movie with Eric Roberts in it is bad. Sorry Dark Knight. 😎
Seriously though, Dark Knight is a fine movie. That is to be expected because outside of maybe Momento, Nolan hasn't made a bad film. But I loved Batman Begins. Loved it. It was so pumped for The Dark Knight that it was inevitable that I was going to be let down... and I was. Which is what I feel is going to happen for a lot of people with TDKR. Lower your expectations people.
Ledger did a great job and whoever he was playing was a terrific villain... but he wasn't the Joker.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
My general rule of thumb is that any movie with Eric Roberts in it is bad. Sorry Dark Knight. 😎
WHAT!!!! how can you say that?? he was in Sharktopus!!
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Seriously though, Dark Knight is a fine movie. That is to be expected because outside of maybe Momento, Nolan hasn't made a bad film. But I loved Batman Begins. Loved it. It was so pumped for The Dark Knight that it was inevitable that I was going to be let down... and I was. Which is what I feel is going to happen for a lot of people with TDKR. Lower your expectations people.Ledger did a great job and whoever he was playing was a terrific villain... but he wasn't the Joker.
Different strokes for different folks. i feel these movies are made for and have to appeal to a broader audience, not just the comic book fans.
I had a couple of batman comics as a kid so i don't know all the ins and outs of the characters, so my experince come from the campy tv show and cartoons. i liked the first 2 batman movies but like Nolans better just because it seems to be more serious.
Maybe IF they reboot the franchise again to start up a justice league batman they can make it more comic book like? I don't know.
I like the joker on the batman arkham games. For you Ledger may not of been the joker from the comics or where ever but i think every outlet has a different version wich give the watcher or reader a different experince each time. which is good.
Someone mentioned about the plot holes in TDK please let me know what u feel they were. i can't remember anything unlike the disappearing batmobile in BB (more of a technical error) where he shuts the lights off and the cops loose him for a bit.
Originally posted by darthmaul1
Let's face it with enough money and the proper connections anyone can become batman.
Not to change the topic of this thread but I would like to address this since I've heard this before many times. Despite Batman having no superpowers like us, no one can really become Batman either.
Batman isn't just James Bond in a bat suit, as some people would like to think. He is literally the perfect human. He has trained his body and his mind to the maximum human capacity. Basically, a swimmer (for example) spends his whole life training to have the perfect body for swimming. A runner trains to achieve the peak level in running, endurance, stamina, etc. Batman can do everything. If the Batman of the comics existed in our world, he would be the best swimmer in the world, the best gymnast in the world, the best rope-climber in the world, the best martial artist in the world, and he would pretty much be the best at every physical activity there is. No human can train themselves to be the best at every physical aspect. A human may be able to train themselves to be the best in the world in one particular field (example: being the best swimmer in the world) but no one can really be the best at everything.
On top of the physical stuff, Batman is also at the maximum mental level. On top of being the world's greatest detective, he is also one of the best scientists in the world, one of the best geologists in the world (example: he can pick up some soil and say "This soil comes from this part of the world" by just examining it), and the list goes on and on. It would take years to become the world's greatest detective, let alone become one of the best scientists in the world, etc.
In conclusion, no one can really become Batman in real life due to there being too many requirements. And even IF someone somehow became Batman in real life, their body would shut down after a couple of weeks of crime-fighting if they do what Batman in the comics does night after night.
what are everyone's feelings toward a 3 hour Avengers movie and a 4 hour Batman movie???
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=56703
obviously a few things will get cut, however Nolan doesn't cut too much from his films if anything at all?