Thor vs Silver Surfer vs Superman

No, it really isn't, but it's sound tactics.

Originally posted by illadelph12
No, it really isn't, but it's sound tactics.

Everything else would get absorbed.

Goin with surfer

Originally posted by Bentley
There is no weakness exploitation of any kind, this means not manipulating their internal powers, no draining, no taking away hammers nor boards or anything crappy like that. This is a sheer power, defending and attacking, with all characters fighting in character but at the height of their abilities -which means they will use their full speed, skill and will use tactics with their respective powersets-. The three will fight in a secluded planet, with no bfr.

Who. Comes. On. Top?

Surfer, if it's a fist fight.

Or even if it's not, imo. But definitely if it's just a brawl.

Wait, you think Surfer would take it in a fist fight or strictly a brawl?

^ Contrary to popular belief, Surfer can actually give beatdowns. Look what he did to Beta Ray Bill with an opening.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Contrary to popular belief, Surfer can actually give beatdowns. Look what he did to Beta Ray Bill with an opening.

I'm aware Norrin can throw down in that manner when push comes to shove, but that arena of fighting is something that Thor and Clark are his clear superiors in, imo.

Originally posted by carver9
Everything else would get absorbed.

I'd like to see Thor 'absorb' the board being phased into his head and/or chest and then made solid and spun at C like a buzzsaw.

Intentionally, I mean.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm aware Norrin can throw down in that manner when push comes to shove, but that arena of fighting is something that Thor and Clark are his clear superiors in, imo.

he lacks the sheer skills and will of a true fighter, but he doesn't lack the power to fight with someone in that strength class though.

Surfer.
At his peak [T&A, UniLord, random encounters with blackholes], he's too durable and dynamic for either opponent to put him down.

Surfer can also cast powerful illusions, making it impossible for the other two to tell what is going on. He could put Lois Lane's face on Thor's body, ****ing with Superman's combat effectiveness!

Originally posted by illadelph12
No, it really isn't, but it's sound tactics.

As for Versatility yes Surfer is Thor's superior and has finer control over it, but Thor isn't lacking.

Teleportation, Soul Sucking, he has Matter Manip to, etc, etc.

Thor would not be overwhelmed by the Surfer. As for the board Thor can do the same with his Hammer. 😛

For the fight I generally choose overall versatility when it comes to big battles with mutliple people because it makes it easier for the person to engage the opponents on their own terms and dictate the battle.

I think Superman is last cause really he needs to stay H2H, he's not gonna win this match in the long range. He has the tools to do it but a feel more has to go right for him then it would the other two.

Surfer is the most versatile here in powerset but at the same time he's gonna have to keep everything long range. He can beat either one of them but if it goes melee I think the other two have a clear advantage over him. Superman a clear clear advantage in melee.

Thor can win both long range and close range. Plus his storms and magical attacks can be game changers.

So it should be

Surfer/Thor
Superman

imo

Originally posted by Newjak
The restraints don't keep Thor from using his powers especially is AoE attacks, plus he can teleport out, as for getting out of the board Thor was recently able to break out of a pocket dimension I don't see Surfer's Board being any other problem.

As for Versatility yes Surfer is Thor's superior and has finer control over it, but Thor isn't lacking.

Teleportation, Soul Sucking, he has Matter Manip to, etc, etc.

Thor would not be overwhelmed by the Surfer. As for the board Thor can do the same with his Hammer. 😛

For the fight I generally choose overall versatility when it comes to big battles with mutliple people because it makes it easier for the person to engage the opponents on their own terms and dictate the battle.

I think Superman is last cause really he needs to stay H2H, he's not gonna win this match in the long range. He has the tools to do it but a feel more has to go right for him then it would the other two.

Surfer is the most versatile here in powerset but at the same time he's gonna have to keep everything long range. He can beat either one of them but if it goes melee I think the other two have a clear advantage over him. Superman a clear clear advantage in melee.

Thor can win both long range and close range. Plus his storms and magical attacks can be game changers.

So it should be

Surfer/Thor
Superman

imo

I agree with majority of this... Thor is suited for both, long range and h2h battling... he isn't lacking in either.

One thing I disagree with though is Thor and Surfer long range power. I think Thor long range powers are more destructive than Surfers imo.

I don't think that the long range will be the winning factor.
Superman has long range too btw, the power of his HV is quite underestimated.
But anyway, in the fights it's pretty obvious that the first long range attacks won't accomplish anything lasting to someone like Superman, who can close the distance rather fast. Neither Surfer nor Thor have shown the fighting speed of Superman or his ability to dodge energy attacks like he does. Surfer is also quite known for his style of coming close to his enemies.
It would end in a close range fight, with energy attacks, hammerstrikes, heat vision and fists. It's delusional to think that SS would be able to avoid contact and always connect with his blasts, like it's obvious that Thor lacks the speed against those too for a similar tactic.
So in the end Superman should prevail, with Thor very close by. Except if you allow weakness exploit.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with majority of this... Thor is suited for both, long range and h2h battling... he isn't lacking in either.

One thing I disagree with though is Thor and Surfer long range power. I think Thor long range powers are more destructive than Surfers imo.

Of course Thor's attack in general I feel pack more punch then the other two, but its not just about raw power output, there are other factors that evens things out.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I don't think that the long range will be the winning factor.
Superman has long range too btw, the power of his HV is quite underestimated.
But anyway, in the fights it's pretty obvious that the first long range attacks won't accomplish anything lasting to someone like Superman, who can close the distance rather fast. Neither Surfer nor Thor have shown the fighting speed of Superman or his ability to dodge energy attacks like he does. Surfer is also quite known for his style of coming close to his enemies.
It would end in a close range fight, with energy attacks, hammerstrikes, heat vision and fists. It's delusional to think that SS would be able to avoid contact and always connect with his blasts, like it's obvious that Thor lacks the speed against those too for a similar tactic.
So in the end Superman should prevail, with Thor very close by. Except if you allow weakness exploit.

Superman can close gaps but he also has to worry about the other combatant at all times, plus Surfer is no slouch in the speed department especially in traveling speed.

You mix that with his versatile powerset and I think Surfer has more ways to dictate a battle with multiple opponents than Superman does.

Originally posted by Newjak
I do agree Thor's raw power output and damage is greater than Surfer's, but Surfer's is comparable and he also is more versatile long range so overall I would give Surfer the edge in a far away battle. Its just what Surfer does and he does it better than anyone else.

Of course Thor's attack in general I feel pack more punch then the other two, but its not just about raw power output, there are other factors that evens things out.

I know its not the deciding factor but a good blast from Thor "like he has been doing lately" should cripple or out right take any one of these two out of the fight. I'm referring to his Chaos King blast or his Void attack that he did. Its just that simple. Thor can end this fight whenever he wants to imo... and this includes his hammer shots as well (that he also empowers with magic along with a blast following it).

Lately, it has been in character for Thor to use these tactics.

Originally posted by carver9
I know its not the deciding factor but a good blast from Thor "like he has been doing lately" should cripple or out right take any one of these two out of the fight. I'm referring to his Chaos King blast or his Void attack that he did. Its just that simple. Thor can end this fight whenever he wants to imo... and this includes his hammer shots as well (that he also empowers with magic along with a blast following it).

Lately, it has been in character for Thor to use these tactics.

So I don't think Thor can end this battle as quickly as he wants.

Originally posted by carver9
I know its not the deciding factor but a good blast from Thor "like he has been doing lately" should cripple or out right take any one of these two out of the fight. I'm referring to his Chaos King blast or his Void attack that he did. Its just that simple. Thor can end this fight whenever he wants to imo... and this includes his hammer shots as well (that he also empowers with magic along with a blast following it).

Lately, it has been in character for Thor to use these tactics.

You do realise Superman and Surfer have taken blasts from near abstract level beings and not gone down? If you're argueing Thor could level either of these two with one hit you're either seriously underestimating their durability or hugely overestimating thor's power output

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
You do realise Superman and Surfer have taken blasts from near abstract level beings and not gone down? If you're argueing Thor could level either of these two with one hit you're either seriously underestimating their durability or hugely overestimating thor's power output

You do know that Thor blast punched a hole in Chaos King and killed Void (who at one point faught all of Earth hero and was basically tanking their attacks)?

Its not an underestimation, his power output is dangerous. Lol @ them tanking attacks froms abstracts.

Originally posted by Newjak
Fair enough, but a lot of Thor's biggest attacks do require a small charge time and he is already at a speed disadvantage in this fight.

So I don't think Thor can end this battle as quickly as he wants.

Naah, his attacks against CK and Void happened instantly. There is another time he used a similar attack recently but I can't think of it. It just requires him to lift his hammer.