Thor vs Silver Surfer vs Superman

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I don't think that the long range will be the winning factor.
Superman has long range too btw, the power of his HV is quite underestimated.
But anyway, in the fights it's pretty obvious that the first long range attacks won't accomplish anything lasting to someone like Superman, who can close the distance rather fast. Neither Surfer nor Thor have shown the fighting speed of Superman or his ability to dodge energy attacks like he does. Surfer is also quite known for his style of coming close to his enemies.
It would end in a close range fight, with energy attacks, hammerstrikes, heat vision and fists. It's delusional to think that SS would be able to avoid contact and always connect with his blasts, like it's obvious that Thor lacks the speed against those too for a similar tactic.
So in the end Superman should prevail, with Thor very close by. Except if you allow weakness exploit.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
You do realise Superman and Surfer have taken blasts from near abstract level beings and not gone down? If you're argueing Thor could level either of these two with one hit you're either seriously underestimating their durability or hugely overestimating thor's power output

Originally posted by carver9
You do know that Thor blast punched a hole in Chaos King and killed Void (who at one point faught all of Earth hero and was basically tanking their attacks)?

Its not an underestimation, his power output is dangerous. Lol @ them tanking attacks froms abstracts.

Originally posted by carver9
You do know that Thor blast punched a hole in Chaos King and killed Void (who at one point faught all of Earth hero and was basically tanking their attacks)?

Its not an underestimation, his power output is dangerous. Lol @ them tanking attacks froms abstracts.

So, despite the fact that Superman has tanked shots from - Imperiex Prime, Godlike Lex (from the recent Action Run) and many others, one shot from Thor can take him out?

Same goes for Surfer and the fact he's taken hits from Galactus, Tenebrous, Aegis, having his body torn apart by the Crunch and still standing, etc.

And some context to the killed Void thing- It was pretty much the whole "kill me" thing which allowed him to kill him. I mean, yes he disintegrated him, but just flying into the Sun did the same thing to Sentry (something both Surfer and Supes have been able to easily survive), but he regened because he was going insane.

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer.
At his peak [T&A, UniLord, random encounters with blackholes], he's too durable and dynamic for either opponent to put him down.

Surfer can also cast powerful illusions, making it impossible for the other two to tell what is going on. He could put Lois Lane's face on Thor's body, ****ing with Superman's combat effectiveness!

Originally posted by carver9
You do know that Thor blast punched a hole in Chaos King and killed Void (who at one point faught all of Earth hero and was basically tanking their attacks)?

Its not an underestimation, his power output is dangerous. Lol @ them tanking attacks froms abstracts.

Adam ripped a hole in Spectre with his Psycho Crusher. That doesn't mean his lightnings letting him rip through bricks on his level like a hot knife through butter.

If the Chaos King thing isn't PIS, it's a sure bet the lightning didn't do as much damage as it looked like. Not if he was tanking attacks from Supergod Herc.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
So, despite the fact that Superman has tanked shots from - Imperiex Prime, Godlike Lex (from the recent Action Run) and many others, one shot from Thor can take him out?

Same goes for Surfer and the fact he's taken hits from Galactus, Tenebrous, Aegis, having his body torn apart by the Crunch and still standing, etc.

And some context to the killed Void thing- It was pretty much the whole "kill me" thing which allowed him to kill him. I mean, yes he disintegrated him, but just flying into the Sun did the same thing to Sentry (something both Surfer and Supes have been able to easily survive), but he regened because he was going insane.

It makes my STOMACH HURT when people bring up stuff that they don't know what they are talking about. Imperiex disintegrated Doomsday and then shot Superman and almost killed him if it wasn't for Darkseid saving. Superman NEVER tanked a blast from Imperiex and the only time he actually survived an Imperiex type attack was when he was Sundipped. DAMN.

Godlike Luthor was weakening throughout that battle with Supes and Supes only survived an initial attack from him when he was near deplition. OMG

Surfer got crushed by Tenebrous and Aegis. Hell, the first punch that Tenebrous hit Surfer with cracked his shell across his entire body and almost laid him out.

Sentry was trying to kill himself... that's why the sun was hurting him and Sentry isn't Void.

Originally posted by carver9

Godlike Luthor was weakening throughout that battle with Supes and Supes only survived an initial attack from him when he was near deplition. OMG

No. that's not it. Even before gaining full access to the childs power, he should have had enough to destroy Superman. But the child was putting restrictions on how Luthor could use the power even then, or "limiting his power", according to Mr. Mind.

Originally posted by carver9
It makes my STOMACH HURT when people bring up stuff that they don't know what they are talking about. Imperiex disintegrated Doomsday and then shot Superman and almost killed him if it wasn't for Darkseid saving. Superman NEVER tanked a blast from Imperiex and the only time he actually survived an Imperiex type attack was when he was Sundipped. DAMN.

Godlike Luthor was weakening throughout that battle with Supes and Supes only survived an initial attack from him when he was near deplition. OMG

Surfer got crushed by Tenebrous and Aegis. Hell, the first punch that Tenebrous hit Surfer with cracked his shell across his entire body and almost laid him out.

Sentry was trying to kill himself... that's why the sun was hurting him and Sentry isn't Void.

The point is- he survived a blast from a near abstract, he's tanked unbelievable amounts of punishment in the past, one shot from Thor isn't going to lay him out.

And no, Lex hit Superman meaning to disintegrate him, Superman recovered, and then Lex started weakening after, hitting Clark the entire time he was weakening but he wouldn't go down. And still, hits from a weakening nigh omnipotent Luthor > Thor's blasts.

And Surfer was still going after three or four hits from TnA- yes he was losing badly, but then he got back up, manipulated the most powerful energy source in the universe, which was tearing him apart, and he kept on going. Yet one blast from Thor would take him down him?

And okay- Void was cut open by Ares with his axe- my point being, it wasn't Bob being super durable that made him hard to put down, it was his unlimited healing.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish

And no, Lex hit Superman meaning to disintegrate him, Superman recovered, and then Lex started weakening after, hitting Clark the entire time he was weakening but he wouldn't go down. And still, hits from a weakening nigh omnipotent Luthor > Thor's blasts.

To be honest, the attempts to kill Superman don't mean much if Luthor was restricted in how he could channel his power. For all we know, his restrictions would've allowed Batman to survive unscathed.

Does anyone know if/have links to any writer or editor saying Silver Surfer would beat Superman?

I mean, I know its a Marvel internet warrior thing but sometimes I wonder about cult's beliefs.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
The point is- he survived a blast from a near abstract, he's tanked unbelievable amounts of punishment in the past, one shot from Thor isn't going to lay him out.

And no, Lex hit Superman meaning to disintegrate him, Superman recovered, and then Lex started weakening after, hitting Clark the entire time he was weakening but he wouldn't go down. And still, hits from a weakening nigh omnipotent Luthor > Thor's blasts.

And Surfer was still going after three or four hits from TnA- yes he was losing badly, but then he got back up, manipulated the most powerful energy source in the universe, which was tearing him apart, and he kept on going. Yet one blast from Thor would take him down him?

And okay- Void was cut open by Ares with his axe- my point being, it wasn't Bob being super durable that made him hard to put down, it was his unlimited healing.

Darkseid saved him from the blast... did you not get that part? If it wasn't for Darkseid, he would have died.

Your Lex argument is moot since there were circumstances involved.

One hit from Tenebrous annihilated Surfer to the point that his entire body was cracked and he could barely stand.

I don't think anyone here is getting one shotted bu anyone else.

Originally posted by carver9
Darkseid saved him from the blast... did you not get that part? If it wasn't for Darkseid, he would have died.

Your Lex argument is moot since there were circumstances involved.

One hit from Tenebrous annihilated Surfer to the point that his entire body was cracked and he could barely stand.

Four hits from Tenebrous and Aegis knocked Surfer down... for all of a minute before he got up and performed a ridiculous energy manipulation feat and tore himself apart in the process.

Ie, he wasn't down after one shot.

Yet one shot from Thor will put him down?

No one is going down easy in this fight, IMO this are the prime top tiers and deserve pretty much every consideration among their peers.

I would've put Kyle here too, but Geoff's take on the Lanterns have cheapened their market value here in KMC.

Originally posted by Newjak
I don't think anyone here is getting one shotted bu anyone else.

That's why I said "crippled".

Surfer wins.

Superman wins.

Clark ko's Thor from the start if he aint holding back against him again, its highly unlikely Surfre will go for the weakness thing, in the end he will get beat down.

Geezus.

Thor isn't one shotting either Surfer or Superman and he wouldn't greviously injure or cripple either of them in a single blow if everyone is operating at optimal levels.

Thor couldn't take down Surfer/Superman with a single blow. Not one powered by only his strength at least. At bare minimum, there would have to be circumstances like it being a shot from behind or what not. Since they're peers, it's possible that he could really rock or hurt them with a blow and vise versa.