CISless Zoom vs Odin

CISless Zoom vs Galactus thread please

I think the Zoom/Galactus thing has made its point.. It's kind of getting old now 😐

Originally posted by Newjak
I think the Zoom/Galactus thing has made its point.. It's kind of getting old now 😐

Galactus vs Zoom is getting old? Is that what you're talking about, Galactus vs Zoom? Because it seems you're talking about Galactus vs Zoom.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Not really, it's just getting ignored.

Galactus vs Zoom is getting old? Is that what you're talking about, Galactus vs Zoom? Because it seems you're talking about Galactus vs Zoom.

It just seems like it if it was gonna make its point it would have by now. I understand your just trying to make the point that people who say Zoom wins vs Odin yet can say Zoom can not beat Galactus. I understand you are trying to expose the hypocrisy of it all. But I've never felt taking something to the extreme to try and balance out something like that works very well.

I also have a question for CM and Galan. You guys seem to say that Odin can win. I was wondering how do you think Odin wins if he can?

Originally posted by SasuOna
Make a Zoom vs Galactus thread and maybe then I'll say something on the matter.
As it stands that question has no bearing on Odin vs Zoom

I made the thread like you asked.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t551795.html

Originally posted by Newjak
I've noticed it being posted throughout the thread over and over, and I think this is the first time I've addressed it.

It just seems like it if it was gonna make its point it would have by now. I understand your just trying to make the point that people who say Zoom wins vs Odin yet can say Zoom can not beat Galactus. I understand you are trying to expose the hypocrisy of it all. But I've never felt taking something to the extreme to try and balance out something like that works very well.

I also have a question for CM and Galan. You guys seem to say that Odin can win. I was wondering how do you think Odin wins if he can?

Although I am highly curious to see the responses

Originally posted by leonidas
and that's where at least h1 takes things to its end. if you think he--and all others in dc--can IN THEORY hit with force enough to destroy galaxies, and you DON'T see that as a problem, wellllll......... shrug

and you're right--i DON'T accept it. NOT becasue i don't like it. but because there is ZERO proof of anything remotely close to that--on panel OR 'in comicbook theory'--to support it.

It's easy. What is the IMP based on and why is it even called INFINITE MASS PUNCH? Does the word INFINITE ring a bell?

It is clear from canon comics that the IMP is based off the special theory of relativity which states that the closer an object with mass gets to the speed of light then the more mass it gains and thus producing a higher kinetic energy and higher momentum (also explained in the comics).

Using Lorentz transformation
m=m0/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), where m is relativistic mass, m0 is rest mass, v is velocity, and c is the speed of light in a vacuum, we see that the closer v is to c then the closer the denominator gets to 0 from the positive side and thus making the relativistic mass astronomical. The limit of this function is infinity and hence the name INFINITE MASS PUNCH.

Agreed some writers chose not to champion relativity and some have.
Some writers chosen not to champion neither relativity nor the idea that punching power is based off speed and mass but purely strength.
Zoom's punching power has been championed by ALL of these viewpoints. Thus choosing Zoom at his best we must champion the idea of Zoom's punching power being based off relativity.

With CIS off Zoom can plan, before the bell, on hitting Odin with a strike at 1x10^-88% away from the speed of light (more kinetic energy than several galaxies) and killing him outright.

How about some scans of Zoom throwing an IMP.

Or a scan of Zoom saying he can throw one.

Or a scan of Zoom saying "I can hit you with the force of several galaxies to make you betterrrrr"

Or anything in the comic supporting anything you're saying. Actual scans or issue numbers, too.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's easy. What is the IMP based on and why is it even called INFINITE MASS PUNCH? Does the word INFINITE ring a bell?

It is clear from canon comics that the IMP is based off the special theory of relativity which states that the closer an object with mass gets to the speed of light then the more mass it gains and thus producing a higher kinetic energy and higher momentum (also explained in the comics).

Using Lorentz transformation
[B]m=m0/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), where m is relativistic mass, m0 is rest mass, v is velocity, and c is the speed of light in a vacuum, we see that the closer v is to c then the closer the denominator gets to 0 from the positive side and thus making the relativistic mass astronomical. The limit of this function is infinity and hence the name INFINITE MASS PUNCH.

With CIS off Zoom can plan, before the bell, on hitting Odin with a strike at 1x10^-88% away from the speed of light (more kinetic energy than several galaxies) and killing him outright. [/B]

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t551795.html

On topic, Do those calcs apply to anyone that can go lightspeed or above?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I haven't said anything about it really.
But the point is clear, yet no one will take it on.

Although I am highly curious to see the responses

Odin grants himself the appropriate speed to handle Zoom using the Odin-Power. Why wouldn't this work?

Because he'd get the crap kicked out of him before he granted himself that speed, duh.

Originally posted by Wodenson
Odin grants himself the appropriate speed to handle Zoom using the Odin-Power. Why wouldn't this work?

Why wouldn't this work?

Originally posted by Silent Master
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t551795.html

On topic, Do those calcs apply to anyone that can go lightspeed or above?

Yes in anyone in the D.C. universe only and not in Marvel.

Thor can perceive Hermes moving at super-speed, and Odin's senses are far more advanced. He has cosmic scale perceptions bordering on omniscience.

Odin can augment himself at the speed of thought. His thought.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Zoom snaps his fingers, blowing Odin's body into pieces.

Why wouldn't this work?

Zoom can blow up planets with a snap of his fingers? That's the kind of power it takes to threaten Odin.

Originally posted by Wodenson
Zoom Odin can blow up planets with a snap of his fingers increase his speed to the point where he blitzes an amped Wally West and is standing still in time? That's the kind of power speed it takes to threaten match Odin. Zoom.

I thought you'd catch up on what I was trying to say the first time.

I keep overestimating people, thinking they have the basic ability of understanding simple things.

Shut up, phil.

What would Zoom do if Odin immediately sensed his speed capabilities and shifted into a pan-dimensional battle mode? How does a mere speedster fight a being that exists in all planes of reality simultaneously?