Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Retarded.h1a8 doesn't even get behind his own numbers. He spits them out after he's cajoled, and then when he's asked to stand behind them in different situations, he runs away trying to deflect back onto Odin's durability, the theory of relativity, etc. I would have thought his predilection for spewing out numbers would blunt the evasiveness that is characteristic of all superspeed proponents. It doesn't. Par for the course.
Zoom with infinite mass can knock out Odin in a single punch? Fine, let's take your quantifications for granted. Odin hasn't shown any increased speeds so he wouldn't react before a single real-time second passes, much less an attosecond? That's fair from an evidentiary standpoint, let's run with it. Zoom with attosecond speeds throwing one punch a day (in his relativistic timeframe, i.e., a Zoom day) could still throw 31.71 billion punches in the real-time second it takes for Odin to react? Fine, but why stop there?
It only takes one punch per Odin, so how about 31.71 billion Odins? He knock them all out before any of them can react in a single real-time second? [b]Silence
.That's how your math bears out, but you won't answer... so how many Supermans does he knocked out with that speed? Silence.
Wait, why are we lowballing Zoom and limiting his ability to throwing just one punch in an accelerated Zoom day... phuck it, he can throw at least one punch/sec in his own relativistic time-frame. That's 86,400 punches per Zoom day (24 hrs x 60 min x 60 sec). Multiply that by 31.71 billion Odins. That's 2.74 quadrillion Odins in a single real-time second.
So Zoom, going all out and not being limited to one punch per accelerated Zoom day, can knock out 2.74 quadrillion Odins by the time a single real-time second passes? Silence.
Illogical extrapolation =/= understanding. Laying down and then immediately retreating from the absurd results =/= comprehension. Conveniently lowballing Zoom's own speed when passing your arbitrary mathematics =/= accuracy.
It's retarded. [/B]
I'm sorry to say this Galan, especially with you being the great debator you are but ODG just owned you. Its very rare seeing Galan getting owned and I have been HOPING for a moment where I can see ODG vs Galan, so I'm saving this post...lol.
Just want to mention it since I said it in the Galactus one, and I'm sorry if it was already mentioned:
Nate Grey pulled himself and Mimic out of sync with normal time, having a conversation with Mimic in their own personal time space. Ares suddenly just cut through into the space, commenting how it was a clever tactic to hide in a different time flow.
If Ares, who is below Skyfather level, is capable of pulling off such an Anti-Zoom tactic, why can't Odin?
Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Just want to mention it since I said it in the Galactus one, and I'm sorry if it was already mentioned:Nate Grey pulled himself and Mimic out of sync with normal time, having a conversation with Mimic in their own personal time space. Ares suddenly just cut through into the space, commenting how it was a clever tactic to hide in a different time flow.
If Ares, who is below Skyfather level, is capable of pulling off such an Anti-Zoom tactic, why can't Odin?
The stips of this battle say that Odin isn't allowed to stop the time. And this would technically be something like this right?
This thread limit's Odins Time manipulating abilities, I think Carver wanted to know if Odin stands a chance without time manip, just with his own speed and his own abilities to amp his speed. Maybe he should answer this one.
Originally posted by Galan007
I understand that, I suppose. But imo it's really no different than assuming Zoom would be capable of chewing bubble gum and running at the same time, even though he never has on panel.We know that moving at light speed gives Zoom sufficient mass to strike with the force of Superman -- we know he is capable of accelerating to light speed instantaneously (literally) -- we know he can blitz an opponent with (no less than) thousands of punches in that same span of time. To me, it's one of those '1+1=?' things... But opinions vary, and you are more than welcome to yours.
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As extreme as he sounds, h1 really does understand speed to a better degree than most.
I disagree with him applying feats to characters FAR beyond what they've ever done on panel - but his theories really are pretty accurate.
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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
The stips of this battle say that Odin isn't allowed to stop the time. And this would technically be something like this right?This thread limit's Odins Time manipulating abilities, I think Carver wanted to know if Odin stands a chance without time manip, just with his own speed and his own abilities to amp his speed. Maybe he should answer this one.
Pretty much on point. I want to know if Odin can take down Zoom "without" taking away Zoom advantage in this fight by manipulating time.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Actually, he's already said he used a math program to get the numbers...so it's not like he figured this out on his own.I can run French newspaper stories through a translation program...that doesn't mean I understand French.
The equations I set up on my own. Who multiplies or divides >10 digit numbers without a calculator? Not even mathematicians do this.
Originally posted by MindsetYeah, apparently all I had to do was say that I think the guy understands the physics behind speed more than many people do, and all of the sudden I get bombarded with troll-esque posts as though I'm the one who has been making h1's arguments in this thread. g007-psyduck
You're a h1a8 loyalist!