Who can beat Galactus?

Started by Wodenson26 pages

That sounds nice and poetic, but it doesn't change Marvel history that the Nullifier can be used against Galactus, both as a weapon and as a bartering chip.

Originally posted by Wodenson
That sounds nice and poetic, but it doesn't change Marvel history that the Nullifier can be used against Galactus, both as a weapon and as a bartering chip.
Actually, it does change it, that's what happens in comics.

You lost, accept it.

Originally posted by rotiart
Like you are doing?
The retcon changes things that you refuse to admit.

Okay, lets talk retcon. How did Reed make Galactus retreat and pledge not to devour Earth?

Mindset, you have to actually defeat my argument, not beat your chest and walk away proclaiming your victory.

Originally posted by Wodenson
Okay, lets talk retcon. How did Reed make Galactus retreat and pledge not to devour Earth?
By using the UN, which Galacus chose to to recall to himself even though new information has been brought out that he could have.

Concession accepted.

@Wodenson

Don't bother. That ONE Abraxus instance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Multiple times Galactus has either been fooled by a fake UN, threatened by the real one and unable to call it to him or it was taken from him somehow and he couldn't get it back (Maelstrom encasing it).

I agree zopzop, he shouldn't try to ignore the latest information regarding Galactus and his relationship with the UN.

Originally posted by Mindset
By using the UN, which Galacus chose to to recall to himself even though new information has been brought out that he could have.

Concession accepted.

So Galactus willingly chose to enter into Reed's no-eating-Earth pledge for no reason? That's your argument?

Originally posted by Wodenson
So Galactus willingly chose to enter into Reed's no-eating-Earth pledge for no reason? That's your argument?
He willingly chose not to recall the UN.

Originally posted by Wodenson
So Galactus willingly chose to enter into Reed's no-eating-Earth pledge for no reason? That's your argument?

no, what he's saying is there IS no explanation. if marvel has simply decided to make the un part of galactus now (as seems evident by its most recent appearance) the earlier instances have been retconned. retcons cause all SORTS of problems, but when they happen, there is really no real way to explain away past events. the beyonder retcon was assinine and the half-assed explanations they tried to use to explain it all away were idiotic, but as readers we simply must accept it.

i'm not entirely sure that abraxas arc WAS an official retcon, but it seems to have been one. that was an important arc where we learned a great deal about galactus. or maybe it somehow became 'part of him' after his resurrection? who knows. i DO know you'll not be getting any explanation, because there is none.

Originally posted by Mindset
He willingly chose not to recall the UN.

So how did Reed manage to get Galactus to agree to his oath? Twice?

Stan Lee.

Originally posted by Wodenson
So how did Reed manage to get Galactus to agree to his oath? Twice?

Why didn't living tribunal destroy korvac instead of sealing off his dimension...
Why doesn't kang travel back in time to before the avengers were formed and kill them all as babies
Why does apocalypse having celestials at his back but constantly get beaten...
Why is beyonder able to destroy death and all the abstracts go to molecule man for help but he turns out to be a cube being and the an inhuman mutant...
Why does spiderman beat up firelord... Someone who should tank many levels higher than spidermancan hit...
Why hasn't dr octopus died considering he only has human level durability...
How come spiderman had a villain darn near break his hand punching spiderman but later other villains don't have that problem...

How does death die when she is death herself
How do you strangle an abstract to death...
Why does doom let himself lose.
If Adam warlock sent his dark half to soul world during infinity wars why is magus manifesting during the annihilation arc?

Meh. Things happen.

Originally posted by zopzop
I get that, and that makes sense since they are destroying what the abstract represents.

If someone destroys "hunger" or "balance" what happens to Galactus? Nothing, since he doesn't represent those concepts or any concepts.

If Galactus dies, what concept is now out of existence? Nothing since he doesn't represent a concept.

Ive acknowledged that, but if he is destroyed the universe will still collapse as the "balance" between eternity and death is gone and eternity goes haywire

Give it up. There was no retcon. Galactus alleged that he has some connection with the UN but it hasn't been expanded upon. It is clearly not part of his personal power and it does not elevate him to the status of an abstract entity.

Originally posted by Wodenson
Give it up. There was no retcon. Galactus alleged that he has some connection with the UN but it hasn't been expanded upon. It is clearly not part of his personal power and it does not elevate him to the status of an abstract entity.
really? no retcon? how do you call it when new info is unambiguously shown on panel? regardless, he is abstract level with or without the UN

I'm glad you said that. I'll keep it in mind when we inevitably discuss the current Thor arc when it ends.

There was no retroactive continuity involved, beyond Galactus displaying the ability to summon the UN back to himself. Maybe Galactus is not always sure he can summon it back before someone pulls the trigger.

Galactus says that the UN is a part of him, but he also says that he's the Alpha and Omega -- the Be All and End All. He isn't above waxing the poetic and making dubious claims.

cable

Originally posted by Wodenson
There was no retroactive continuity involved, beyond Galactus displaying the ability to summon the UN back to himself. Maybe Galactus is not always sure he can summon it back before someone pulls the trigger.

Galactus says that the UN is a part of him, but he also says that he's the Alpha and Omega -- the Be All and End All. He isn't above waxing the poetic and making dubious claims.

Thank you for proving that you are going to completely ignore everyones arguments and everything shown on panel. I dub thee Shrek.