Odin VS Galactus

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This has nothing to do with what we're seeing: a splashing elliptical silhouette that extends beyond and apart from a character's body that many artists have used to portray shields. We dont' see similar crap with the subsequent blasts. Stop lying about that. There is no splashing elliptical silhouette that extends beyond and apart from a character's body. We see Thanos and Odin engulfed by blasts or the energy touching their bodies. I've pointed this out several times. Ignoring that isn't helping your argument. At this point, your in full-on last word mode. Repeating your mistatements isn't advancing your delusions.

Shield is there. Odin busted through them easily with increased attacks like PG Thor did. End of story. No artificial comic art rule is being violated here. Thanos' character isn't being compromised here. Don't know why you're so invested in this when the standard you demanded, evidence of the shields, has already been provided convincingly.

Still avoiding the question.. and it's obvious why.. It has EVERYTHING to do with what we are talking about. if the same artist in the same comic has drawn exact same things.. even slightly different... WHICH YOU HAVE ARGUED and why you refuse to answer.. Then that could very well be the case here couldn't it? You've argued looking too closely at minor differences in similiar things drawn in the same comic is nothing more then the writer drawing it slightly different. This is why you won't answer the question.. you've argued this point and now it's coming back to bite you, thus you refuse to answer.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
thanos put everything his systems could muster into strengthening that shield and some of it still got through. after that thanos was running on physical durability only, and didn't look like he wanted to test that out

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I'll ask you the same question I asked ODG... Has an artist ever in the same comic drawn the same thing.. whether it be energy blasts, colors upon hiting target, shape of sphere upon contact on target.. You know the answer is clearly yes... the same artist even in the same comic has drawn things slightly different.. nothing is exactly the same. So then, that being an absolute truth and a possibility.. how can you say with certainty there were shields..

i can ask you how, looking at the picture, you can say there was NO shield....

again, interpret it how you will, but it seems most who have looked at it agree that the pic shows a shield. like i said, i don't NEED further evidence, nor do past precedents matter in the least. they are utterly irrelevant since these are different artists and writers. by looking back at what others have done, you are comparing apples and monster trucks. 😬

Originally posted by psycho gundam
odin would have broken it even if it was there

/topic

I agree, but saying for certain it was there when it was never shown (like all of Thanos appearances except one) and it never even mentioned to be there or broken (like EVERY single one of thanos appearance when it's been broken) isn't sound reasoning. It could very well be like what we've seen countless times.. an artist just had it drawn slightly different than subsequent blasts.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I'll ask you the same question I asked ODG... Has an artist ever in the same comic drawn the same thing.. whether it be energy blasts, colors upon hiting target, shape of sphere upon contact on target.. You know the answer is clearly yes... the same artist even in the same comic has drawn things slightly different.. nothing is exactly the same. So then, that being an absolute truth and a possibility.. how can you say with certainty there were shields.. when NONE were DRAWN and none were even implied at being there or broken.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
In EVERY instance of Thanos having his shields broken it is either mentioned or shown.. In the PG thor case shields are shown cracking.. in the omega case.. they are said to be failing.. yet here unlike EVERY OTHER TIME.. There was NO mention of them breaking.. nor were they even drawn (which again they have been drawn every single time except ONE.. just one.. where they were clear)

Go away.

Originally posted by leonidas
i can ask you how, looking at the picture, you can say there was NO shield....

again, interpret it how you will, but it seems most who have looked at it agree that the pic shows a shield. like i said, i don't NEED further evidence, nor do past precedents matter in the least. they are utterly irrelevant since these are different artists and writers. by looking back at what others have done, you are comparing apples and monster trucks. 😬

You still didn't answer though.. has the same artist drawn the same thing slightly different in the same exact comic. Has this ever happened?

Originally posted by leonidas
i can ask you how, looking at the picture, you can say there was NO shield....

again, interpret it how you will, but it seems most who have looked at it agree that the pic shows a shield. like i said, i don't NEED further evidence, nor do past precedents matter in the least. they are utterly irrelevant since these are different artists and writers. by looking back at what others have done, you are comparing apples and monster trucks. 😬

How many times do we have to point this out?

Originally posted by quanchi112
We have already seen Thanos not only take Odin blasts with minimal damage but him wade through a concentrated blast from gungir without a shield so my question is this. If he can deplete energies from galactus what would this do to someone less powerful like Odin if he even got through the shield ? Odin also can burn out and needs the odinsleep and is far less powerful according to Thanos than Galactus.

thanos is not really a decent go between here because he's below odin as well as galactus, though he's leagues below galactus, and in one of galactus' lamest showings he--again virtually oneshotted thanos, this is something odin can't do imo

galactus kills odin

umm, yeah? probably? 😕

not really sure why that matters to you so much. it's that individual scene we're talking about, not the rest of the issue.

if whole book were simply drawn and had ZERO language in it (been done loads of times in books because, again, the medium allows for it) are you saying you would look at that panle and say there is no shield there? really?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
There are no comparisons here. Just oddly disjointed rhetoric to prevaricate from the plainly obvious. The shields are portrayed. Artist visualization differs from artist to artist. Recognizing that, and then turning around and demanding homogeneity between them on menial things like forcefield portrayal makes absolutely no sense.

How many times do we have to point this out?

but what you can't escape and why you continue to avoid the question.. is that even the same artist in the same comic has drawn the same thing slightly different. That is what you can't get around. Being that we know that this can and has happened... coupled with the fact that no shields were ever shown, mentioned or even mentioned to be broken.. we can simply say.. the just had it drawn slightly different and nothing more. Not one time.. not once.. has thanos shields EVER been broken and that not be mentioned or shown... So.. even if you feel like those were shields then evidence clearly supports that since no shields were shown broken.. he just turned them off so he could start attacking Odin back. He can't attack through your shields.. thus that is what happened. Odin never broke them.. You have a little proof of their maybe being shields.. you have ZERO proof of them being broken as opposed to Thanos turning them off to engage.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
galactus won with a virtual oneshot against thanos' best defense, no need to split hairs there.

thanos is not really a decent go between here because he's below odin as well as galactus, though he's leagues below galactus, and in one of galactus' lamest showings he--again virtually oneshotted thanos, this is something odin can't do imo

galactus kills odin

Thanos' opinion is rarely wrong and I don't think it was in either case. Thanos disputed Odin's power advantage whereas Odin was reduced to a weapon which gave him a minimal advantage but the fight ended before a winner could be decided.

At least we agree Odin is nowhere near as powerful as Galacts which I thought was rather obvious until fraction or some other writer decides to shake things up anyway.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
How many times do we have to point this out?

hrm. maybe if we asked h1 HE could figure it out...? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by leonidas
if whole book were simply drawn and had ZERO language in it (been done loads of times in books because, again, the medium allows for it) are you saying you would look at that panle and say there is no shield there? really?

Originally posted by quanchi112
At least we agree Odin is nowhere near as powerful as Galacts which I thought was rather obvious until fraction or some other writer decides to shake things up anyway.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
but what you can't escape and why you continue to avoid the question.. is that even the same artist in the same comic has drawn the same thing slightly different. That is what you can't get around. Being that we know that this can and has happened... coupled with the fact that no shields were ever shown, mentioned or even mentioned to be broken.. we can simply say.. the just had it drawn slightly different and nothing more. Not one time.. not once.. has thanos shields EVER been broken and that not be mentioned or shown... So.. even if you feel like those were shields then evidence clearly supports that since no shields were shown broken.. he just turned them off so he could start attacking Odin back. He can't attack through your shields.. thus that is what happened. Odin never broke them.. You have a little proof of their maybe being shields.. you have ZERO proof of them being broken as opposed to Thanos turning them off to engage.

What are you trying to say? Some of Thanos energy blast attacks look different within a comic. Are you going to tell me because there is a possibility for a difference... that one of them actually wasn't an energy blast but, was in fact, fluffy green cotton candy? "Aha! Zees explains why Thanos barely budged zee Odin with zee first salvo!"

Are you really trying to draw me into another semantics riggamorole? Where the absolute exclusion of all other possibilities must be proven in order for people to properly perceive the plainly obvious? Save those trainwreck arguments somewhere else.

Splashing elliptical silhouettes that stop energy blasts a short distance away from a person's body is evidence of a shield. We see it all the time in comics and it's obvious. Get over it.

Originally posted by leonidas
umm, yeah? probably? 😕

not really sure why that matters to you so much. it's that individual scene we're talking about, not the rest of the issue.

if whole book were simply drawn and had ZERO language in it (been done loads of times in books because, again, the medium allows for it) are you saying you would look at that panle and say there is no shield there? really?

It clearly matters because if could simply be this artist drawing that panel slightly different from the rest (considering also it was from an angle not seen before or after upon contact of a blast) If an artist in the same comic can draw exact things slightly different then why couldn't that be a possibility here? ODG has argued this very thing.. and said.. you're reading too much into it.. it was just drawn slightly different. That is the point.

Of course I could look at it as being no shields. I know Thanos's history.. shit the artist knows Thanos history.. In the comic he was picking up from (or do you believe he never read the previous book he was picking up from) The artist actually had Thanos shields drawn and SHOWN broken. Not once.. not ONE TIME in Thanos entire history has shields been clear.. JUST ONCE.. and guess what.. those shields were mentioned numerous times throughout letting us know they were there. In every other instance.... Surfer, Galactus, Champion. PG Thor etc etc they were ALWAYS drawn. So you're asking me how I could come to the conclusion that there were no shields.. when no shields were shown.. only slightly different looking dispersion of energy than other panels.. at the same time knowing this has never once happened in Thanos history and writers and artist do know history of characters before drawing.. that conclusion seems easy to come to.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You go from demanding that evidence be shown Thanos was using a shield ---> demanding that duplicate evidence be shown that different artists have portrayed invisible shields as being invisible ---> demanding confirming narration words must be present in order for invisible shields to be portrayed.

How about you just see Thanos shielding effectively splashing away Odin's initial blast and deal with it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What is this sh1t? srsly

How about you just see Thanos shielding effectively splashing away Odin's initial blast and deal with it.

I'm sure you can also say it's a fact that his shields were broken and not him turning them off to go on the offensive? I'm SURE you have proof they were broken right...