Odin VS Galactus

Started by OneDumbG067 pages

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I'm sure you can also say it's a fact that his shields were broken and not him turning them off to go on the offensive? I'm SURE you have proof they were broken right...
I'm sure that's what happens with Odin's second attack that rocks Thanos backwards. I can accept that's what happens when an invisible forcefield breaks... it does so invisibly and fails to protect the character any further.

But I don't care if they were broken or not or if he turned them off. If they weren't broken and still remained but were doing little to protect him, similar to how Sentry was blitzing Doom and knocking him around but Doom's shields are still at 5% or whatever, fine. I can accept that. I've seen it in comics.

If Thanos turned them off because they weren't going to do sh1t as Odin >>> PG Thor anyway and was going to destroy them, fine. I can accept that. Thanos decided to save Odin the extra effort. Dumb, but that's apparently what you're trying to convince me of.

But let's get things straight: You're not demanding proof that scenario #1 is what happened. You're demanding proof that scenarios #2 and #3 could never possibly happen. And I'm not going to prove a negative. The first scenario is likely. Odin's blasting the crap out of Thanos, one moment his shields are up, the next moment, they're not. First obvious conclusion: busted.

And the sheer magnitude of semantics you're vomiting up in this thread to avoid this simple conclusion is astonishing. But, hey. It's you after all.

Guys, there were no reports or complaints, but please remember to use spoilers as a courtesy. Thank you.

wut

the picture shows it. no words needed. really is end of story in my books. and, evidently, in many others' books as well. good enough for me. 👆

Originally posted by leonidas
the picture shows it. no words needed. really is end of story in my books. and, evidently, in many others' books as well. good enough for me. 👆
The picture doesn't show a shield at all. Your interpretation says there is a shield and that's what it comes down to.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
wut
Spoiler:
Maybe talk of upcoming Odin/Galactus battle
Originally posted by leonidas
the picture shows it. no words needed. really is end of story in my books. and, evidently, in many others' books as well. good enough for me. 👆
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Originally posted by quanchi112
@Zopzop

It is clear their opening blasts didn't phase each other but continued exposure were weathering them down. By onedumbgo's logic Odin erected an invisible shield as well. With his new theory I can start claiming shield whenever anyone no sells an attack.

Of course it is, some people just like arguing to argue. Those scans I posted are "in order".

Thanos and Surfer blast Odin, nothing happens.

Odin blasts Thanos, nothing happens.

THEN

Odin blasts Thanos, Thanos is stunned.

Surfer blasts Odin, Odin is stunned.

Thanos blasts Odin, Odin is stunned.

It's so freaking obvious that no shields were used by anyone on that battlefield, only lunatics would argue the point now.

I want them to explain how Odin was unfazed by the initial blasts then felt it EXACTLY the same thing that happened to Thanos. Either BOTH were using forcefields and they broke or none of them were. Otherwise how do you explain what happened to Odin.

Originally posted by zopzop
Of course it is, some people just like arguing to argue. Those scans I posted are "in order".

Thanos and Surfer blast Odin, nothing happens.

Odin blasts Thanos, nothing happens.

THEN

Odin blasts Thanos, Thanos is stunned.

Surfer blasts Odin, Odin is stunned.

Thanos blasts Odin, Odin is stunned.

It's so freaking obvious that no shields were used by anyone on that battlefield, only lunatics would argue the point now.

I want them to explain how Odin was unfazed by the initial blasts then felt it EXACTLY the same thing that happened to Thanos. Either BOTH were using forcefields and they broke or none of them were. Otherwise how do you explain what happened to Odin.

Putting the scans up clearly shows the same thing which is obvious that these attacks are weathering them down ever so slightly.

Originally posted by zopzop
Of course it is, some people just like arguing to argue. Those scans I posted are "in order".

Thanos and Surfer blast Odin, nothing happens.

Odin blasts Thanos, nothing happens.

THEN

Odin blasts Thanos, Thanos is stunned.

Surfer blasts Odin, Odin is stunned.

Thanos blasts Odin, Odin is stunned.

It's so freaking obvious that no shields were used by anyone on that battlefield, only lunatics would argue the point now.

I want them to explain how Odin was unfazed by the initial blasts then felt it EXACTLY the same thing that happened to Thanos. Either BOTH were using forcefields and they broke or none of them were. Otherwise how do you explain what happened to Odin.

What kind of dumb false absolute are you trying to fit in here? Two people must be using shields otherwise neither can? Your dumb argument has no basis in anything we call reality. What kind of stupid rule is this? This is even dumber than demanding that narrative confirmation also join artistic portrayal otherwise we can't trust our eyes.

We see Thanos' shields:

Originally posted by dmills

There's nothing to argue anymore on that point. And Odin having no shields, nor any splashing elliptical silhouette, doesn't mean Thanos can't have shields. It just means Odin has no shields.

Odin is a taking a whopping 6.9% in the poll.

Figures.

Galactus and HARD.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What kind of dumb false absolute are you trying to fit in here? Two people must be using shields otherwise neither can? Your dumb argument has no basis in anything we call reality. What kind of stupid rule is this? This is even dumber than demanding that narrative confirmation also join artistic portrayal otherwise we can't trust our eyes.

We see Thanos' shields: There's nothing to argue anymore on that point. And Odin having no shields, nor any splashing elliptical silhouette, doesn't mean Thanos can't have shields. It just means Odin has no shields.

Whey was Odin originally unfazed by their combined attack, yet the each subsequent attack fazed him? Exactly like Thanos?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Odin is a taking a whopping 6.9% in the poll.

Figures.

Galactus and HARD.

You realize the poll means nothing right? It all depends on how Marvel sees these two power wise and we're not gonna find out for another week or so. Until then it could be 100000 to 1 in favor of Galactus on these forums but it don't mean jack till Marvel has its say.

^ The poll is based on what we've already seen in comics. Appealing to the majority isn't proof in and of itself. But the proof relied on by that majority is.

Originally posted by zopzop
Whey was Odin originally unfazed by their combined attack, yet the each subsequent attack fazed him? Exactly like Thanos?
That has nothing to do with Odin having superior durability and Thanos having inferior durability but having shields that are quickly rendered inconsequential as the fighting escalates.

Odin has no visible shields, no visible splashing elliptical silhouette. He's never used shields in his career apparently. That fact, in no way, disproves Thanos was using his shields.

Why? Because we do see Thanos' shields. We don't see Odin's. Enough of this red herring nonsense.

Originally posted by zopzop
You realize the poll means nothing right? It all depends on how Marvel sees these two power wise and we're not gonna find out for another week or so. Until then it could be 100000 to 1 in favor of Galactus on these forums but it don't mean jack till Marvel has its say.

SO then, why are you arguing?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Why? Because we [b]do
see Thanos' shields. We don't see Odin's. Enough of this red herring nonsense. [/B]

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Sigh, it's pointless. The scans are right there and I'll let them argue for me.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
SO then, why are you arguing?

Did you even read the comment I was replying to? 🙄

Originally posted by zopzop
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Sigh, it's pointless. The scans are right there and I'll let them argue for me.

Yeah. I see the scans too. I'll let them do the arguing for me. We see Thanos' shielding splash away Odin's initial attack before it touches his body and then it doesn't:
Originally posted by Galan007
My 2 cents...

Here Odin uses a single-handed blast on Thanos. Not only does the blast have no effect, but it also seems to dissipate/begin spreading outward, before it ever touches Thanos' physical being:

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Fast-forward a couple pages, and this time a single energy-backhand from Odin sends Thanos flying backward:

With that being said, it seems like Thanos' shields were up initially (the artwork heavily alludes to such)- then Odin simply broke through them. How else do you explain the massive difference in Thanos' energy-soak over the span of 2 pages?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Yeah. I see the scans too. I'll let them do the arguing for me. We see Thanos' shielding splash away Odin's initial attack before it touches his body and then it doesn't:

And we see Odin ignore their (Surfer and Thanos) initial assault then it starts to faze him, even the Surfer's solo assault did.

We see Thanos ignore Odin's initial assault then they start fazing him.

But only Thanos was using shields! Nevermind the exact same thing happened to both combatants. 🙄

^ ... because we only see Thanos using shields and that's different from not seeing any shields used by Odin.

What don't you get? There is a difference. We see Thanos' shields. We don't see Odin's.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ ... because we only see Thanos using shields and that's different from not seeing any shields used by Odin.

What don't you get? There is a difference. We see Thanos' shields. We don't see Odin's.

No, you THINK you see "shields" being used by Thanos. Otherwise, both Thanos and Odin went through the same song and dance : resist initial assault then started to feel the subsequent ones.