Odin VS Galactus

Originally posted by zopzop
No, you THINK you see "shields" being used by Thanos. Otherwise, both Thanos and Odin went through the same song and dance : resist initial assault then started to feel the subsequent ones.

I'm not "thinking" anything. It's very easy to see the elliptical shape which is splashing away Odin's initial energy blast. It is furthermore, easy to see that this is happening before ever reaching Thanos' body. We've seen that effect before in comics when shielding is invisible. You see attacks cascade around it, a distance away from the body, thus creating the silhouette of the invisible shield that is there:

You don't see that effect with Odin at all. But whatever, it's obvious you refuse to see it. But if you're refusing to see what's being plainly presented then you're just reading comics selectively and that attitude doesn't promote any honest discussion. Fine.

We disagree.

You think spamming the thread with Guy images will make up for putting off his respect thread, ODG?! sneer

Originally posted by zopzop
Translation :
I can't produce scans to backup my reasoning and I'm just going to pout like a child.

You can't produce ANY scans of Mephisto beating Thor in or out of his realm, they fought to a draw and both admitted it would have been an eternal stalemate (I even provided the scans). Yet we have scans of Galactus resorting to devouring Mephisto's realm because like Thor, it was a stalemate.

Odin > Thor. If Thor fought Mephisto to a standstill, Odin would absolutely crush him. Thor performed as well as Galactus vs Mephisto in his own realm till Galactus got tired of the stalemate and attempted to devour Mephisto's hell.

This is all on panel. It's not my opinion. You just don't like it because of how YOU think the fights should have gone down. That's not my problem, it's your problem.

You're not dictating to me to provide scans to support some irrelevant position you hold. I could care less that Thor has stalemated Mephisto in his realm. Silver Surfer has evaded Mephisto in his own realm. LOL. This whole time you thought I gave a flying **** about Mephisto.

Yet you act as Mephisto being stalemated in his realm by herald level is the primary basis to which to judge his prowess.

The point is that characters are written to different levels by different writers. Galactus fought a Mephisto written by Stan Lee. Show me scans of Thor battling Mephisto to the degree that the very heavens (in a biblical sense, meaning the cosmos) were shaking as a result of the collateral damage.

Otherwise your bullshit that Odin was going soft against Thanos because you compare that Odin against the Odin who fought seth is pointless. You keep running around and pointing the finger. I'm simply using your own logic against you using Mephisto. Yes, you don't like it, but it's your own logic. Deal with it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

I'm not "thinking" anything. It's very easy to see the elliptical shape which is splashing away Odin's initial energy blast. It is furthermore, easy to see that this is happening before ever reaching Thanos' body. We've seen that effect before in comics when shielding is invisible. You see attacks cascade around it, a distance away from the body, thus creating the silhouette of the invisible shield that is there:

You don't see that effect with Odin at all. But whatever, it's obvious you refuse to see it. But if you're refusing to see what's being plainly presented then you're just reading comics selectively and that attitude doesn't promote any honest discussion. Fine.

We disagree.

pretty pointless by now. the majority seem to have deemed a shield is clearly drawn. like i said, others can interpret as they will. to paraphrase the great mindset--we're right, they're wrong. they can deal with it. 😄

Originally posted by leonidas
pretty pointless by now. the majority seem to have deemed a shield is clearly drawn. like i said, others can interpret as they will. to paraphrase the great mindset--we're right, they're wrong. they can deal with it. 😄

Originally posted by Mindset
👆

great, now will you make me one of those sigs??? 😄

You'll need a comic that shows someone's favorite character getting owned.

that one was pretty unique simply because thor looks so completely stupefied by the blow hulk landed on his face

It was pretty much a gift from god.

I gifted it to myself is what I'm saying.

i'll settle for based god then

Originally posted by psycho gundam
wut

Originally posted by zopzop
Did you even read the comment I was replying to? 🙄

Would it be possible to just plain ban that argument from the forums period?

Originally posted by leonidas
pretty pointless by now. the majority seem to have deemed a shield is clearly drawn. like i said, others can interpret as they will. to paraphrase the great mindset--we're right, they're wrong. they can deal with it. 😄

Originally posted by quanchi112
It isn't clearly drawn and is only your interpretation.

You have a point but also there exists a good point for shields as well.
Clearly the evidence shows that it is most likely a shield than not a shield (closer to resembling a shield than resembling a non shield). Otherwise how would you explain the blast not even touching
Thanos and being repelling away from his body in an elliptical type of way?

Originally posted by h1a8
Otherwise how would you explain the blast not even touching
Thanos and being repelling away from his body in an elliptical type of way?

Faith can move mountains, my son.

Originally posted by h1a8
You have a point but also there exists a good point for shields as well.
Clearly the evidence shows that it is most likely a shield than not a shield (closer to resembling a shield than resembling a non shield). Otherwise how would you explain the blast not even touching
Thanos and being repelling away from his body in an elliptical type of way?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The blast hit him and what we see it the energy of it dispersing around him just like what happened to Odin. No other time in Thanos' history or in this arc has Thanos ever used an invis shield that wasn't mentioned.

The writers don't need to mention this stuff all the time even back then; it's just redundant to show it and say it as well. Like you don't see Doom's or Mag's or IW's shield mentioned every single time, or Stark yelling "I'm firing my repulsors now!" every single fight he's in - we know Doom & Mags & IW have shields and Iron Man uses repulsors.

Like it has often been stated here, Thanos' shields are part of his regular equipment we know he has them and uses them - frankly he'd be an idiot not to when confronting people like Odin and Galactus. Thanos has them, the artist appears to be drawing them - why would anyone feel the need to so vehemently deny something that is a very reasonable interpretation?

Originally posted by basilisk
While there is some ambiguity that leaves a small amount of room for doubt, I think it pretty clearly looks like a shield was intended, and that seems to be what most people think.

really, no point in wasting your time. he's the biggest thanos fan (boy) out there. to assume there was a shield (as is clear to almost everyone at this point) would also imply it was logical odin broke said shield.

for some, that will never do. i've said umpteen times it comes down to how you interpret the scan. most see the shield. those who don't seem to have a..... real desire not to. 🙂

The bottom line is that Thanos simply isn't powerful enough to impassively tank a blast from Odin without protection. Odin is not a herald.

Originally posted by basilisk
While there is some ambiguity that leaves a small amount of room for doubt, I think it pretty clearly looks like a shield was intended, and that seems to be what most people think. When I first read that issue years ago I immediately thought it was depicting a shield - I thought it was good that the artist actually showed that detail.

The writers don't need to mention this stuff all the time even back then; it's just redundant to show it and say it as well. Like you don't see Doom's or Mag's or IW's shield mentioned every single time, or Stark yelling "I'm firing my repulsors now!" every single fight he's in - we know Doom & Mags & IW have shields and Iron Man uses repulsors.

Like it has often been stated here, Thanos' shields are part of his regular equipment we know he has them and uses them - frankly he'd be an idiot not to when confronting people like Odin and Galactus. Thanos has them, the artist appears to be drawing them - why would anyone feel the need to so vehemently deny something that is a very reasonable interpretation?

Thanos specifically stated he believed he had enough power to challenge Odin and didn't use a shield against Tyrant either. Thanos knew Tyrant was more powerful because he didn't really argue when Tyrant stated he might kill him if they went at it for a longer time.

Like I said the most reasonable assumption is these blasts had minimal to no effect from the get go and then started doing more damage as time went along which is logical.