Originally posted by BouboumasterYour hate makes you strong!!
In the way that Galactus is supposed to be a badass mother****er, born at the beginning of the universe, from the union of past universe's Eternity and Galan. He should be the third face of the Living Tribunal, between Eternity and Death.IMO, he should be written in a way where he could, if he wanted, piss on Odin, just before the god beg for mercy. But that's not the point.
The point is: what the **** is that seed?! It's the seed of the next Galactus?! How could it be?! I don't get the point. I'm also pissed off that the big man doesn't get a proper treatment.
Originally posted by rotiart
@igniz I can understand your position but odin couldn't even stand up under his own power...
Okay 😕 This statement doesn't make sense.Cause if Odin couldn't stand on his own power, he wouldn't be able to summon the Destroyer and Mjolnir to its hand.So he still had power to fight Galactus.Cause I understand the phrase "Odin couldn't stand on his own power" would ment he was incapacitated or KO.But that wasn't the case in issue 6.
Originally posted by rotiart
[B]But who cares the whole thing was crud...
Marvel should bring back whoever wrote blood and thunder.
This I agree.It was crud.Hence I say nothing was resolved in this Odin Vs Galactus debate since the story arc didn't help me decide who to vote for in this thread.Matt Fraction suckered us into believing a big Destroyer / Mjolnir Vs Galactus fight when nothing happened in issue 6.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Living Tribunal and Phoenix are both older. Eternity and Death came with the creation of the egg that contained Galactus.
LT isn't normally in the universe though..
Phoenix is a force, not an entity, and Eternity and Death were born from the remnants of the previous abstracts, but they still count as new entities..
And besides, Captain Marvel killed that Eternity, and set Entropy to take his place by killing him too, detonating him and birthing the universe all over again..
Originally posted by cdtm
LT isn't normally in the universe though..Phoenix is a force, not an entity, and Eternity and Death were born from the remnants of the previous abstracts, but they still count as new entities..
And besides, Captain Marvel killed that Eternity, and set Entropy to take his place by killing him too, detonating him and birthing the universe all over again..
Actually, Galactus is the "remnant" of the previous Eternity.
Sentience of the [previous] universe AKA Eternity talking to Galan of Taa
Shown again in Thanos
Confirmed that the voice was that universe's Eternity, and that Galactus is essentially the remnant of the previous Eternity merged with a mortal man
Needless to say, meeting Fraction was completely unimpressive. I refused to wait in a line that was arbitrarily cut off, so I just approached him as he stepped down from the podium. I didn't have much time as a result.
Me: Can you clarify the Galactus-Odin encounter
Fraction: it is what it is. at the end of the day, Galactus is the guy that's left standing
Me: What about the destroyer armor confrontation, what was happening there
Fraction: Well, Surfer tells him the Seed is gone. And the Destroyer armor is standing there with Mjolnir. And it's like a standoff
Me: so if it's a standoff then why does Galactus leave?
Fraction: He leaves because the destroyer is there. He leaves because the Seed is gone and he no longer wants to bother with Asgard. It's a little of column A and it's a little of column b. It's whatever you want it to be
(obviously I never said I was a fan of Galactus in the hopes that he'd give me a straight answer. Nope.)
Me: So what was the point of the actual Galactus Seed? Is it going to appear later?
Fraction: It was a way for Odin to possibly find a solution to Fear Itself, but it's not significant in that way; it was something for Odin to latch his hopes onto for the duration of the story. The Seed is now gone, so that's the end of that chapter. We might see the Seed again at some point.
So by this point Fraction was already off the podium and being escorted away by his cronies. i was following him a little asking the questions. Then I just got fed up with the whole thing and walked away.
The whole endeavor was just lackluster, like his story. I didn't even have time to tell him the story sucked. It was either that or try and get my questions answered.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
That was horribly answered by Fraction; its whatever you want it to be!???Really??
If he is representative (and I pray he is not) of how the writers of comicbooks think, then we really are wasting our time with our endless debates of character "a" vs character "b"...
Yeah, it sucked, but I think it's just him. I spoke with abnett and lanning and they have a pretty good view of what they're trying to get across. I spoke with kieron gillen and he def has a head on his shoulders. fraction was just a mess.
it was basically his statement regarding thor/hulk re-hashed. Trying to please all parties with a non-answer.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic IIYou should have punched that idiotic f*ck Fraction in the throat, him struggling to breathe would make a better answer.
Needless to say, meeting Fraction was completely unimpressive. I refused to wait in a line that was arbitrarily cut off, so I just approached him as he stepped down from the podium. I didn't have much time as a result.Me: Can you clarify the Galactus-Odin encounter
Fraction: it is what it is. at the end of the day, Galactus is the guy that's left standing
Me: What about the destroyer armor confrontation, what was happening there
Fraction: Well, Surfer tells him the Seed is gone. And the Destroyer armor is standing there with Mjolnir. And it's like a standoff
Me: so if it's a standoff then why does Galactus leave?
Fraction: He leaves because the destroyer is there. He leaves because the Seed is gone and he no longer wants to bother with Asgard. It's a little of column A and it's a little of column b. It's whatever you want it to be
(obviously I never said I was a fan of Galactus in the hopes that he'd give me a straight answer. Nope.)
Me: So what was the point of the actual Galactus Seed? Is it going to appear later?
Fraction: It was a way for Odin to possibly find a solution to Fear Itself, but it's not significant in that way; it was something for Odin to latch his hopes onto for the duration of the story. The Seed is now gone, so that's the end of that chapter. We might see the Seed again at some point.
So by this point Fraction was already off the podium and being escorted away by his cronies. i was following him a little asking the questions. Then I just got fed up with the whole thing and walked away.
The whole endeavor was just lackluster, like his story. I didn't even have time to tell him the story sucked. It was either that or try and get my questions answered.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Needless to say, meeting Fraction was completely unimpressive. I refused to wait in a line that was arbitrarily cut off, so I just approached him as he stepped down from the podium. I didn't have much time as a result.Me: Can you clarify the Galactus-Odin encounter
Fraction: it is what it is. at the end of the day, Galactus is the guy that's left standing
Me: What about the destroyer armor confrontation, what was happening there
Fraction: Well, Surfer tells him the Seed is gone. And the Destroyer armor is standing there with Mjolnir. And it's like a standoff
Me: so if it's a standoff then why does Galactus leave?
Fraction: He leaves because the destroyer is there. He leaves because the Seed is gone and he no longer wants to bother with Asgard. It's a little of column A and it's a little of column b. It's whatever you want it to be
(obviously I never said I was a fan of Galactus in the hopes that he'd give me a straight answer. Nope.)
Me: So what was the point of the actual Galactus Seed? Is it going to appear later?
Fraction: It was a way for Odin to possibly find a solution to Fear Itself, but it's not significant in that way; it was something for Odin to latch his hopes onto for the duration of the story. The Seed is now gone, so that's the end of that chapter. We might see the Seed again at some point.
So by this point Fraction was already off the podium and being escorted away by his cronies. i was following him a little asking the questions. Then I just got fed up with the whole thing and walked away.
The whole endeavor was just lackluster, like his story. I didn't even have time to tell him the story sucked. It was either that or try and get my questions answered.
Don't worry; when I work at Marvel I'll stop and answer any reasonable questions. mmm
