Thor (without Mjolnir) VS Wolverine

Originally posted by Newjak
What Table I mean what are you talking about 😕

If it is Bone Claws Wolverine wouldn't mean he was facing Mortal Hercules who was around She-Hulk level and he still couldn't cut him 😬

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/5863/herc2ih1.jpg

As for Mortal or not? I don't know... and again, you're being unreasonable to suppose he couldn't cut Herc. 😬

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because that's completely reasonable . . .

Originally posted by Faceman
jinzin don't let Wolverine come between our friendship... 😆

cause we're so close right? lol.

Originally posted by jinzin
sigh...

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/5863/herc2ih1.jpg

As for Mortal or not? I don't know... and again, you're being unreasonable to suppose he couldn't cut Herc. 😬

No it's not, which is why any reasonable person would rationalize that Wolverine beat him by carving him up... 😬

cause we're so close right? lol.

By the way it would have had to have been Mortal Herc when he was fighting Bone Claws because Herc became Mortal before that ever happened. So wolverine beat up Mortal Herc who couldn't even beat She-Hulk in arm wrestling and he still couldn't cut him 😆

And by the way it makes perfect sense for Wolverine to beat that version of Herc as he literally had only average stamina that is probably why Wolverine won becuase Herc just passed out from exaustion 😛

Originally posted by strengthkills
now im not gonna say wolvie wins on brute strength cause come on 100>3 ya know thatd be ludacris especially from me im a hulk fan

No I know, I was being sarcastic... I mean that if Logan didn't stab Herc in COC, then the only other way of beating Herc was in strict hand to hand combat because he has NO OTHER way to fight, it's claws or fists.. he doesn't have ranged weaponry,, so the idea that wolverine could take Herc down without being able to stab or cut him is as you said is ludicrous... the fact that Herc is down in the last image and Wolverine still has his claws unsheathed says he was using his claws by the time the fight ended.. meaning he was probably stabbing herc or cutting him up very badly... The fact that Hercules is scared shitless of his claws is another indicator, and the fact that Wolverine has cut and damaged as durable and more durable people than Herc doesn't lend itself to say that herc can't be cut.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Its the only logical thing to conclude.

Wolverine beat Hercules. Newjak agrees that Wolverine beat him but insists that Wolverine didn't cut him. If Wolverine didn't cut Hercules the only thing left is that somehow he beat Hercules unconscious with his bare hands. So Wolverine's claws either penetrated Herc or he beat him with down with his strength... really the only two opptions, pick one.

Very true S-Rank! You are as smart as you are handsome. 😎

Originally posted by Newjak
That is just ridiculous jinzin Wolverine actually knocking Herc down 😛

By the way it would have had to have been Mortal Herc when he was fighting Bone Claws because Herc became Mortal before that ever happened. So wolverine beat up Mortal Herc who couldn't even beat She-Hulk in arm wrestling and he still couldn't cut him 😆

And by the way it makes perfect sense for Wolverine to beat that version of Herc as he literally had only average stamina that is probably why Wolverine won becuase Herc just passed out from exaustion 😛

wow 😐

Originally posted by jinzin
Both are cononical events recognized by various comics in marvel and dc.

the reason I didn't include that was because it was later revealed in a dc comic that lobo took a dive for money, and on top of that it was fan voted which I don't care for anyways.

Also, all crossovers are bullshit anyway.

Also, I think it was mentioned in a different universe X-Men comic (which goes against the story, since it only really affected one universe of each company, and also clearly shows that it only happened in Marvel, unless LT>>>>the entire DC company...), and one comic in DC (in which, I'm not even sure Wolverine was mentioned, just hinted at). It hardly makes it canon.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Very true S-Rank! You are as smart as you are handsome. 😎

Well that's what I was gonna say but you beat me to it.. you've been on fire today man. thumbsup

Originally posted by jinzin
No I know, I was being sarcastic... I mean that if Logan didn't stab Herc in COC, then the only other way of beating Herc was in strict hand to hand combat because he has NO OTHER way to fight, it's claws or fists.. he doesn't have ranged weaponry,, so the idea that wolverine could take Herc down without being able to stab or cut him is as you said is ludicrous... the fact that Herc is down in the last image and Wolverine still has his claws unsheathed says he was using his claws by the time the fight ended.. meaning he was probably stabbing herc or cutting him up very badly... The fact that Hercules is scared shitless of his claws is another indicator, and the fact that Wolverine has cut and damaged as durable and more durable people than Herc doesn't lend itself to say that herc can't be cut.

The fact is that Wolverine beat a Mortal Herc and his claws still couldn't beat him is funny 😛

Originally posted by jinzin
wow 😐

The picture shows Wolverine hitting Herc and not cutting him and then it shows him standing over Herc. The fact is that that Herc was a lot easier to hurt and he didn't have his Godly Stamina.

Seeing as once again there were no scratches or blood what other conclusion is there 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
Wow what it makes a lot more sense then yours.

The picture shows Wolverine hitting Herc and not cutting him and then it shows him standing over Herc. The fact is that that Herc was a lot easier to hurt and he didn't have his Godly Stamina.

Seeing as once again there were no scratches or blood what other conclusion is there 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
No I know, I was being sarcastic... I mean that if Logan didn't stab Herc in COC, then the only other way of beating Herc was in strict hand to hand combat because he has NO OTHER way to fight, it's claws or fists.. he doesn't have ranged weaponry,, so the idea that wolverine could take Herc down without being able to stab or cut him is as you said is ludicrous... the fact that Herc is down in the last image and Wolverine still has his claws unsheathed says he was using his claws by the time the fight ended.. meaning he was probably stabbing herc or cutting him up very badly... The fact that Hercules is scared shitless of his claws is another indicator, and the fact that Wolverine has cut and damaged as durable and more durable people than Herc doesn't lend itself to say that herc can't be cut.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Maybe he kicked him in the nuts?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
So, basically Thanos = Darkseid, which would mean that both<<<<Bone claw... going by your logic of course.
I know you like to go by on-panel = absolute, but how can you possibly, even try to back this feat up... and by what I might add?

Also, all crossovers are bullshit anyway.

Also, I think it was mentioned in a different universe X-Men comic (which goes against the story, since it only really affected one universe of each company, and also clearly shows that it only happened in Marvel, unless LT>>>>the entire DC company...), and one comic in DC (in which, I'm not even sure Wolverine was mentioned, just hinted at). It hardly makes it canon.

Me thinking that Logan can cut someone doesn't equate to me thinking he can beat them.
Me thinking that Wolverine can cut Thanos only goes as far as no one ever presenting me with evidence of anyone failing to cut or stab Thanos... I tend to think the things that have taken place are credible than the things that people think SHOULD take place where comics are concerned.
Crossover's being bullshit doesn't negate that it happened.
Actually it was also referenced in Green Lantern.
And finally, I'm only bringing up the feat to make a point. All I'm trying to convey is that Wolverine ****s class 100's like Thor and Herc UP if he gets his claws on them... Nearly all of his feats in such circumstances prove this, or at the very LEAST virtually DWARF the condradicting evidence that suggests otherwise.

Christ... Its times like these I wish I was committed enough to finish the Wolverine Respect thread reboot I was gathering scans for. 🙁

Originally posted by jinzin
Sigh.. well first off lets look at your first logical fallacy..

Me thinking that Logan can cut someone doesn't equate to me thinking he can beat them.
Me thinking that Wolverine can cut Thanos only goes as far as no one ever presenting me with evidence of anyone failing to cut or stab Thanos... I tend to think the things that have taken place are credible than the things that people think SHOULD take place where comics are concerned.
Crossover's being bullshit doesn't negate that it happened.
Actually it was also referenced in Green Lantern.
And finally, I'm only bringing up the feat to make a point. All I'm trying to convey is that Wolverine ****s class 100's like Thor and Herc UP if he gets his claws on them... Nearly all of his feats in such circumstances prove this, or at the very LEAST virtually DWARF the condradicting evidence that suggests otherwise.

Edit: I could play that game but you wouldn't want that.

This Wolvie fanboy $hit's gotta stop. So he has adamantium claws that are virtually indestructible. Wolverine is useless against the likes of Superman and Thor since he doesn't have the force enough to cut them. Picture a really, really sharp knife. If you simply rest the blade of the knife even on something as yielding as a piece of paper, the knife won't cut it; not because it can't but b/c the force isn't there. Wolvie loses 10/10

Originally posted by Newjak
Wow what, it makes a lot more sense then yours.

The picture shows Wolverine hitting Herc and not cutting him and then it shows him standing over Herc. The fact is that that Herc was a lot easier to hurt and he didn't have his Godly Stamina.

Seeing as once again there were no scratches or blood what other conclusion is there 😉

All we see is Wolverine scoring some scratches with a glancing blow on Herc's face/head-strap, which doesn't prove he can't cut him (similar to namor in new invaders 6)
The entire image is a holographic projection with one monotary color, and has skewed details so even if Herc was bleeding there there's no garantee we would see it.
When Herc is fallen over KOed it only shows part of his face and the top of his chest leaving plenty of room out of sight where Wolverine could have scored the KOing blow....

Originally posted by jinzin
No, WOW that you just tried to imply that Herc literally fell over from exhaustion...

All we see is Wolverine scoring some scratches with a glancing blow on Herc's face/head-strap, which doesn't prove he can't cut him (similar to namor in new invaders 6)
The entire image is a holographic projection with one monotary color, and has skewed details so even if Herc was bleeding there there's no garantee we would see it.
When Herc is fallen over KOed it only shows part of his face and the top of his chest leaving plenty of room out of sight where Wolverine could have scored the KOing blow....

And the fact is there wasn't any blood splatters and the head and chest area are exposed but then again those are the areas where Wolverine likes to attack. And that glancing blow apparently caused Herc'g head to snap back and last time I checked glancing blows don't do that.

Originally posted by Fianchettoer
This Wolvie fanboy $hit's gotta stop. So he has adamantium claws that are virtually indestructible. Wolverine is useless against the likes of Superman and Thor since he doesn't have the force enough to cut them. Picture a really, really sharp knife. If you simply rest the blade of the knife even on something as yielding as a piece of paper, the knife won't cut it; not because it can't but b/c the force isn't there. Wolvie loses 10/10

Ever played an rpg? Doesn't matter which one because they almost all have weapons that ignore armor count/durability. Thats what adamantium is. If your durability is below true invulnerability, then Adamatium claws, knives, bullets, whatever are going to pierce you, thats just how it is.

EDIT: Damn you Jinzin for increasing the page size!

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Christ... Its times like these I wish I was committed enough to finish the Wolverine Respect thread reboot I was gathering scans for. 🙁

Originally posted by Newjak
So now what you are saying is that no matter what you think is possible or not you're posting it 😬

Edit: I could play that game but you wouldn't want that.

If you're going to keep ignoring evidence.. yes.. my "logic" on the matter is thus:
You ignore/don't accept proof a.
You ignore/don't accept proof b.
You ignore/don't accept proof c.
*while I'm not inclined to believe in proof d, perhaps it will appeal more to you than it does to me in proving that the premise for proofs a-c being brought up.
Hence I post proof D in an attempt to put the nail in the coffin, Not necessarily because it's what I personally believe, which while we're on the subject is irrelivent to comic book fact... fact is Wolverine's cut the man twice.