Thor (without Mjolnir) VS Wolverine

Started by jinzin78 pages

Originally posted by Newjak
It not that Herc completley lost via Exaustion but that the damage he had been taking coupled with wolverine always being fresh as a daisy probably helped wear Herc down a lot. Hasn't Wolverine used those kinds of tactics before 😬

And the fact is there wasn't any blood splatters and the head and chest area are exposed but then again those are the areas where Wolverine likes to attack. And that glancing blow apparently caused Herc'g head to snap back and last time I checked glancing blows don't do that.

it certainly did that in the namor fight so I'm not sure what you're talking about there.

It's possible that Wolverine did that.. you know.. if the fight lasted for days, which in context to the timeframe of COC, it didn't...

Is it positively mortal herc?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Ever played an rpg? Doesn't matter which one because they almost all have weapons that ignore armor count/durability. Thats what adamantium is. If your durability is below true invulnerability, then Adamatium claws, knives, bullets, whatever are going to pierce you, thats just how it is.

EDIT: Damn you Jinzin for increasing the page size!


heh heh, I do that.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Christ... Its times like these I wish I was committed enough to finish the Wolverine Respect thread reboot I was gathering scans for. 🙁
Originally posted by jinzin
gimme 3-4 weeks and your x-title scans and I'm going to go to town with that thing.
It's summer and I finally have some time to devote to the respect threads I've been intending to post all this time...

Originally posted by jinzin
Sigh.. well first off lets look at your first logical fallacy..

Me thinking that Logan can cut someone doesn't equate to me thinking he can beat them.
Me thinking that Wolverine can cut Thanos only goes as far as no one ever presenting me with evidence of anyone failing to cut or stab Thanos... I tend to think the things that have taken place are credible than the things that people think SHOULD take place where comics are concerned.
Crossover's being bullshit doesn't negate that it happened.
Actually it was also referenced in Green Lantern.
And finally, I'm only bringing up the feat to make a point. All I'm trying to convey is that Wolverine ****s class 100's like Thor and Herc UP if he gets his claws on them... Nearly all of his feats in such circumstances prove this, or at the very LEAST virtually DWARF the condradicting evidence that suggests otherwise.

The thing is... he shredded Thanos like paper in that comic...

No one has ever tried to cut Thanos, except Wolverine, and one other person, who had a Terrax like axe, and managed to cut a tiny slit in Thanos's arm, after Thanos had just beaten the most dangerous army in the universe (so, he would be exausted a bit, since he fought thousands, upon thousands of people, and won).
So, I have only durability feats, but, we do have examples of Wolverine failing to things way less durable than Thanos (with bone claws, and adamantium).
Hulk is way... way less durable than Thanos, and bone claws did shit to his throat.
That guy, who dressed like a male prostitute (no idea what his name is), got Wolverine slash against his chest, and it did nothing.

So, Spider-Man can stand up to Superman then? And Venom can stomp Superman?
Also, Thanos also is an Eternal, and he walked around with half his chest ripped off for the rest of the comic, and was severely injured...
Which certainly doesn't go against him getting basically obliterated in the nexus of realities, and healing right away...
Plus, did I mention he was an Eternal?

What is that, three examples, and I'm not even sure any of them, directly (I know one of them for sure doesn't) reference this anyway.

And him stabbing Thanos in a bullshit crossover, that isn't even sure if it's canon, with bone claws, helps Wolverine... because?

Now, I really fail to see a reason why Wolverine cuts Thanos with the Power Gem, and I fail to see why this gets constantly addressed in every thread, since Wolverine usually has feats that aren't as speculative as this, and are consistent.
Wolverine cut Hulk, Wolverine cut Wendigo, etc. None of this really helps his case though against Thanos.

He's fighting Thor for f*ck sakes. If he cut Galactus, would that be usable in a thread, since Galactus has no feats to rule this out.

I need regather all my scans. I burned them to a dvd so I could reformat my hard drive but I can't get anyone the scans off the dvd because of a lovely Cycle Redundancy Check error. 🙁

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
The thing is... he shredded Thanos like paper in that comic...

No one has ever tried to cut Thanos, except Wolverine, and one other person, who had a Terrax like axe, and managed to cut a tiny slit in Thanos's arm, after Thanos had just beaten the most dangerous army in the universe (so, he would be exausted a bit, since he fought thousands, upon thousands of people, and won).
So, I have only durability feats, but, we do have examples of Wolverine failing to things way less durable than Thanos (with bone claws, and adamantium).
Hulk is way... way less durable than Thanos, and bone claws did shit to his throat.
That guy, who dressed like a male prostitute (no idea what his name is), got Wolverine slash against his chest, and it did nothing.

So, Spider-Man can stand up to Superman then? And Venom can stomp Superman?
Also, Thanos also is an Eternal, and he walked around with half his chest ripped off for the rest of the comic, and was severely injured...
Which certainly doesn't go against him getting basically obliterated in the nexus of realities, and healing right away...
Plus, did I mention he was an Eternal?

What is that, three examples, and I'm not even sure any of them, directly (I know one of them for sure doesn't) reference this anyway.

And him stabbing Thanos in a bullshit crossover, that isn't even sure if it's canon, with bone claws, helps Wolverine... because?

Now, I really fail to see a reason why Wolverine cuts Thanos with the Power Gem, and I fail to see why this gets constantly addressed in every thread, since Wolverine usually has feats that aren't as speculative as this, and are consistent.
Wolverine cut Hulk, Wolverine cut Wendigo, etc. None of this really helps his case though against Thanos.

He's fighting Thor for f*ck sakes.

When ever you press Enter, press it again please. 😉

Originally posted by Fianchettoer
This Wolvie fanboy $hit's gotta stop. So he has adamantium claws that are virtually indestructible. Wolverine is useless against the likes of Superman and Thor since he doesn't have the force enough to cut them. Picture a really, really sharp knife. If you simply rest the blade of the knife even on something as yielding as a piece of paper, the knife won't cut it; not because it can't but b/c the force isn't there. Wolvie loses 10/10
wat the hell what kind of analogy is that that is why wolvie fanboys keep on postin an such cause of stupid statements like that come on now u said it urself indestructible claws

Originally posted by jinzin
gimme 3-4 weeks and your x-title scans and I'm going to go to town with that thing.
It's summer and I finally have some time to devote to the respect threads I've been intending to post all this time...

If you're going to keep ignoring evidence.. yes.. my "logic" on the matter is thus:
You ignore/don't accept proof a.
You ignore/don't accept proof b.
You ignore/don't accept proof c.
*while I'm not inclined to believe in proof d, perhaps it will appeal more to you than it does to me in proving that the premise for proofs a-c being brought up.
Hence I post proof D in an attempt to put the nail in the coffin, Not necessarily because it's what I personally believe, which while we're on the subject is irrelivent to comic book fact... fact is Wolverine's cut the man twice.

You produce one sided proof and expect everyone to not doubt it despite the fact wolverine does have other showings to say otherwise.

I mean the best he has ever done against Colossus is Score him. Omega Red's Carbodium body has withstood Wolverine's Claws despite being inferior admantium.

Caps Shield has stopped his blows. He has never sliced open Ironman's armor.

He has never cut Herc.

What he has done is cut a lot of low class 100s with inferior durability.

And before you go back to the Hulk to do realize out of all the high class 100s Hulk more than anybody is the easiest to hurt.

Heck Wasp's stings have hurt the Hulk.

Sebastien Shaw has stopped wolverine from cutting him before.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
The thing is... he shredded Thanos like paper in that comic...

No one has ever tried to cut Thanos, except Wolverine, and one other person, who had a Terrax like axe, and managed to cut a tiny slit in Thanos's arm, after Thanos had just beaten the most dangerous army in the universe (so, he would be exausted a bit, since he fought thousands, upon thousands of people, and won).
So, I have only durability feats, but, we do have examples of Wolverine failing to things way less durable than Thanos (with bone claws, and adamantium).
Hulk is way... way less durable than Thanos, and bone claws did shit to his throat.
That guy, who dressed like a male prostitute (no idea what his name is), got Wolverine slash against his chest, and it did nothing.

So, Spider-Man can stand up to Superman then? And Venom can stomp Superman?
Also, Thanos also is an Eternal, and he walked around with half his chest ripped off for the rest of the comic, and was severely injured...
Which certainly doesn't go against him getting basically obliterated in the nexus of realities, and healing right away...
Plus, did I mention he was an Eternal?

What is that, three examples, and I'm not even sure any of them, directly (I know one of them for sure doesn't) reference this anyway.

And him stabbing Thanos in a bullshit crossover, that isn't even sure if it's canon, with bone claws, helps Wolverine... because?

Now, I really fail to see a reason why Wolverine cuts Thanos with the Power Gem, and I fail to see why this gets constantly addressed in every thread, since Wolverine usually has feats that aren't as speculative as this, and are consistent.
Wolverine cut Hulk, Wolverine cut Wendigo, etc. None of this really helps his case though against Thanos.

He's fighting Thor for f*ck sakes.

There was a lot of B.S. in that comic though...like Cap dodging a punch from Thanos...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn

Hulk is way... way less durable than Thanos, and bone claws did shit to his throat.

we will address this later u punk b**** jus kiddin 😆

Originally posted by strengthkills
wat the hell what kind of analogy is that that is why wolvie fanboys keep on postin an such cause of stupid statements like that come on now u said it urself indestructible claws
not that im a fanboy

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
When ever you press Enter, press it again please. 😉
Huh?
Originally posted by jasonk3
There was a lot of B.S. in that comic though...like Cap dodging a punch from Thanos...
Cyke almost blindsiding Thanos...
Iron Man stunning Thanos...

Originally posted by strengthkills
we will address this later u punk b**** jus kiddin 😆
I have no idea if you actually think Hulk is near his level, but he isn't.

Originally posted by jinzin
it certainly did that in the namor fight so I'm not sure what you're talking about there.

It's possible that Wolverine did that.. you know.. if the fight lasted for days, which in context to the timeframe of COC, it didn't...

Is it positively mortal herc?

The glancing blow in the Namor fight didn't cause Namor's head to snap completley back along with his body.

And Herc wouldn't have lasted for days in that form. He was really hit hard by the loss of his Godly Stamina

and Yes it would have been seeing as it came before Bone Claws Wolverine ever popped up.

and what issue was the Wolverine Herc/table incident because he may have been Mortal then as well 😬

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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Looks like Iron Man is standing up to his claws, although getting affected at the same time... but still...

Originally posted by Newjak
You produce one sided proof and expect everyone to not doubt it despite the fact wolverine does have other showings to say otherwise.

I mean the best he has ever done against Colossus is Score him. Omega Red's Carbodium body has withstood Wolverine's Claws despite being inferior admantium.

Caps Shield has stopped his blows. He has never sliced open Ironman's armor.

He has never cut Herc.

What he has done is cut a lot of low class 100s with inferior durability.

And before you go back to the Hulk to do realize out of all the high class 100s Hulk more than anybody is the easiest to hurt.

Heck Wasp's stings have hurt the Hulk.

Sebastien Shaw has stopped wolverine from cutting him before.

thats funny cause hes beaten most of those so called more durable guys i wonder why......ermm

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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Isn't that Ultimate Wolverine the same guy that got tore in half 😛

And if it wasn't then the fact that Ironman was about to be functional means Wolverine didn't cut deep 😛

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
The thing is... he shredded Thanos like paper in that comic...

No one has ever tried to cut Thanos, except Wolverine, and one other person, who had a Terrax like axe, and managed to cut a tiny slit in Thanos's arm, after Thanos had just beaten the most dangerous army in the universe (so, he would be exausted a bit, since he fought thousands, upon thousands of people, and won).
So, I have only durability feats, but, we do have examples of Wolverine failing to things way less durable than Thanos (with bone claws, and adamantium).
Hulk is way... way less durable than Thanos, and bone claws did shit to his throat.
That guy, who dressed like a male prostitute (no idea what his name is), got Wolverine slash against his chest, and it did nothing.

The durability of Wolverine's bone claws fluctuated.. I don't know what it was contingent on but it fluctuated a TON.
Wolverine also Carved Hulk up like a christmas turkey with bone claws, and cut across his belly with them as well.
I can understand you're anger against the use of this proof, I only ask that you understand why I had to bring it up in the first place.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
So, Spider-Man can stand up to Superman then? And Venom can stomp Superman?

Spiderman fight is irrelivent, it wasn't referenced as having happened anywhere outside of other crossovers...
But if Spiderman had red kryponite powers, then yeah he'd probably give clark some trouble.
If Venom had to fight a severly depowered Supes he might, which oh that's right, Supes WAS severly depowered.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Also, Thanos also is an Eternal, and he walked around with half his chest ripped off for the rest of the comic, and was severely injured...
Which certainly doesn't go against him getting basically obliterated in the nexus of realities, and healing right away...
Plus, did I mention he was an Eternal?

Did he heal it as a concious effort?
He was not severly injured.. bleeding? yes.. Injured? not really.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
What is that, three examples, and I'm not even sure any of them, directly (I know one of them for sure doesn't) reference this anyway.
That's more refferences than most truly cononical limited series' get.. I don't know what the problem is.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
And him stabbing Thanos in a bullshit crossover, that isn't even sure if it's canon, with bone claws, helps Wolverine... because?

It helps to prove the level of durability that Wolverine is capible of inflicting damage upon, which is important in this thread, as people are trying to argue that Wolverine can't cut thor or Herc even though he's done both presumably if not better.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Now, I really fail to see a reason why Wolverine cuts Thanos with the Power Gem, and I fail to see why this gets constantly addressed in every thread, since Wolverine usually has feats that aren't as speculative as this, and are consistent.
Wolverine cut Hulk, Wolverine cut Wendigo, etc. None of this really helps his case though against Thanos.

He's fighting Thor for f*ck sakes.

And people think he can't cut thor which is why all these other examples got brought up.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Huh?
Cyke almost blindsiding Thanos...
Iron Man stunning Thanos...

I have no idea if you actually think Hulk is near his level, but he isn't.

strength wise hes past it ....thats like sayn supes is faster than flash if that were true why would there be a need 4 flash

Originally posted by strengthkills
thats funny cause hes beaten most of those so called more durable guys i wonder why......ermm
Let me point out Wolverine's Class 100 resume from toughest to lowest

Hulk
Namor
Wendigo

Sasquatch

You see the drop off and more importantly two of those beings Hulk and Namor can be injured fairly easily some of the times.

Hulk has been hurt by a lot less than people think. 😬

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Cyke almost blindsiding Thanos...
Iron Man stunning Thanos...

Exactly