Depowered Tyrant vs your 5

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So Monarch or Prime vs. Tyrant then? 🙂

Originally posted by zopzop
No, it was my bad. I mis-remembered the scenes in Annihilation.

All I know is as of Silver Surfer 109, Morg and Surfer escaped the Worldship just before the Nullifier overloaded. Surfer survived the aftershock, Morg didn't. Galactus' ship took the brunt of the Nullification overloaded. It says right there on panel that the aftershock was a 'concussive force', not the actual Nullification blast.

Hence, it couldn't have absorbed the attack from nullifier.

Anyway Tyrant sucks and Monarch beats the shit out of him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hence, it couldn't have absorbed the attack from nullifier.

Anyway Tyrant sucks and Monarch beats the shit out of him.

And you are completely ignoring the fact thgat Tyrant was almost entirely destroyed before the UN overloaded anyway, since Morg used the nullifier to destroy his body.

Only you can take losing to the UN as some kind of low for a character.

More proof Reed was full of sh|t in that FF arc, he claims that Morg turned on Galactus and attacked him with the UN. Morg in fact got the UN to save Gaalctus from Tyrant :

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend

It was retconned in FF 413 that Galactus tped with his world ship in an alternate dimension.

Here's the only scene in that book that references the 'Morg' bit:

It tells us the UN overwhelmed/consumed Galactus and his ship.

Silver Surfer still thought he was dead.

Kris... so how about that Tyrant vs. Monarch thing you were talking about?

Originally posted by Stoic
Not sure why people even call him DP Tyrant? I mean that title makes little sense when compared to the full story surrounding him in terms of general context.

yep. no idea how the whole DP thing really ever began.

Tyrant is not beating a FC Flash and Zoom.
They stomp him easily.

DP Tyrant is normal Tyrant and FP Tyrant is after Tyrant absorbed Galactus power.

DP Tyrant is nothing more than a trans (Galactus can punk like a child).
FP Tyrant is a peer to Galactus.

So you do know how the whole DP thing began.

Originally posted by h1a8
Tyrant is not beating a FC Flash and Zoom.
They stomp him easily.

DP Tyrant is normal Tyrant and FP Tyrant is after Tyrant absorbed Galactus power.

DP Tyrant is nothing more than a trans (Galactus can punk like a child).
FP Tyrant is a peer to Galactus.

So you do know how the whole DP thing began.

As usual you have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
As usual you have no idea what you're talking about.

I know, it's ridiculous. I'm surprised by the number of people who have been temp banned, and how he escaped being one of them?

Fp flash or zoom are far above odin and tyrant.

Originally posted by h1a8
Speed is equivalent to stopping time or slowing it where everything appears frozen. This is completely unfair and makes it near impossible to lose. Eternity is abstract and is intangible. Zoom can't even touch him. So how can zoom beat him?

Even if Zoom could touch Eternity he still wouldn't be able to defeat him. His speed wouldn't help against Eternity because he wouldn't be able to inflict any damage.

Which is the same case here with Tyrant, who is too durable to be hurt by attacks by Zoom or Wally. Maybe you should concentrate on Wally's ability to steal speed instead.

Originally posted by Surtur
Even if Zoom could touch Eternity he still wouldn't be able to defeat him. His speed wouldn't help against Eternity because he wouldn't be able to inflict any damage.

Which is the same case here with Tyrant, who is too durable to be hurt by attacks by Zoom or Wally. Maybe you should concentrate on Wally's ability to steal speed instead.

Not that alone, but those with the Power Cosmic are able to bend time and space to their will. Tyrant is in an entirely different league than the guys that those tactics would work against. Scans have been shown on this board that show Tyrant as being a Galactus level character/threat. Not to mention that Tyrant was actually going to kill Galactus if he had not been nullified. Zoom and the Flash would have a tough time against the Surfer, and probably lose a majority to him alone.

Full powered Flash could erase eternity and other abstract like beings. The same goes for zoom with the negative speed force.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Full powered Flash could erase eternity and other abstract like beings. The same goes for zoom with the negative speed force.

Any proof?

Originally posted by Stoic
Any proof?

Flash when one with the speed force was able to erase the concept of death, and was able to rewrite the main DC universe/multiverse (2 separate events). Flash has multiple showings both from the pre-crisis era and post crisis era (flash point) of being able to influence the multiverse.

However, I am going to be focusing on the PC superman thread more so than this one. I take very few threads seriously, but I take PC superman very seriously and I will be posting a plethora of scans in that thread soon.

Go for it.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Flash when one with the speed force was able to erase the concept of death, and was able to rewrite the main DC universe/multiverse (2 separate events). Flash has multiple showings both from the pre-crisis era and post crisis era (flash point) of being able to influence the multiverse.

However, I am going to be focusing on the PC superman thread more so than this one. I take very few threads seriously, but I take PC superman very seriously and I will be posting a plethora of scans in that thread soon.

Uh sure, but just as long as you don't attempt to use those once in a lifetime feats as the norm. Tyrant is so far above these two that it actually is funny. Zoom and the imps aren't enough, and neither is the time warps, or ftl speed. LOL. It's all useless to heavy duty power cosmic users. Trust me on this okay. The Speed Force is one thing, but I'd place the the Power Cosmic in terms of scope to be, as great or perhaps even greater than the Speed Force. I mean the PC takes it's power from everything. Well at least as far as Marvel comics canon goes. So why do these light weights win?

Originally posted by Board Walker
Flash when one with the speed force was able to erase the concept of death, and was able to rewrite the main DC universe/multiverse (2 separate events). Flash has multiple showings both from the pre-crisis era and post crisis era (flash point) of being able to influence the multiverse.

However, I am going to be focusing on the PC superman thread more so than this one. I take very few threads seriously, but I take PC superman very seriously and I will be posting a plethora of scans in that thread soon.

Wally wasn't "one with the SF" when he defeated Black Flash. And it wasn't him who erased death, it was the fact that it couldn't handle the nothingness which Wally lead it to.

Barry wasn't the only one responsible for the Flashpoint showing (the merging part, i mean). And considering Pandora's very purpose is to rewrite the multiverse as shown in Futures End, it's most likely that she's the one who did most of the work.

Pre-Crisis Barry affecting the multiverse....i can only think of Flash #237? Which was weird and wasn't really consistent since the story jumped from telling us it was multiverse, then universe, then Earth-level destroying energies. Meh. Regardless, pre-Crisis Flash (Barry) wasn't above his post crisis self; let's not forget the times where he was defeated by complete losers from his rogue gallery like Captain Boomerang, or the Top, or Rainbow Raider, or other random clowns who just show up for one story; hell, street level characters (of which CB and Top are a part of) like Yorkin and Saber-tooth (off the top of my head) have managed to best PC Barry. Tyrant would absolutely mop the floor with him.

I also don't recall any multiversal showing in the post-crisis era. Although i suppose Barry creating the SF should count as one. I do admit that toward the end of the post-Crisis era, when Barry returned, he started to getting treated like some sort of cosmic being in terms of importance, but when it came to fights....i recall him getting beaten by alternate reality rogues. Which also mirrors what happened to Bart when he absorbed the speed force before Barry's return. Bart, despite having the entire speed force inside him, stalemate Steppenwolf.... So i really don't see why Tyrant would have a problem with him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not that alone, but those with the Power Cosmic are able to bend time and space to their will. Tyrant is in an entirely different league than the guys that those tactics would work against. Scans have been shown on this board that show Tyrant as being a Galactus level character/threat. Not to mention that Tyrant was actually going to kill Galactus if he had not been nullified. Zoom and the Flash would have a tough time against the Surfer, and probably lose a majority to him alone.

Originally posted by Surtur
Even if Zoom could touch Eternity he still wouldn't be able to defeat him. His speed wouldn't help against Eternity because he wouldn't be able to inflict any damage.

Which is the same case here with Tyrant, who is too durable to be hurt by attacks by Zoom or Wally. Maybe you should concentrate on Wally's ability to steal speed instead.

Originally posted by h1a8
what are you talking about? Did you read the story? Tryant was nothing to Galactus until he absorbed his power. Galactus treated him like a child. Getting hit with a powerful enough imp will kill tryant

tryant isn't immune to physical blunt force. Eternity is because it is abstract. FC zoom or flash would kill tryant with a powerful enough imp.

We clearly see everything down the line differently. Your judgement skills make little sense to me. So what if Galactus slapped Tyrant through a bulkhead? It wasn't as if it knocked him out! What was he supposed to do, stand there and tank Galactus' assault? I don't understand why you can't see this for the double standard that it is dude? It's like you were too busy noticing that one guy put out damage that you failed to remember that Tyrant put far more damage on Galactus. He isn't limited to a base level of physical strength when he has the ability to consume the natural energy from living creatures and create a symbiotic relationship with smart devices.

All of this Zoom, and Flash talk is ridiculous. Operator616 spelled it all out to you, but like the comics you read, and ignore portions of, you likely ignored many portions of what he wrote. Was Tyrant supposed to be unfazed by Galactus' punches? What are you saying exactly? Did you know that Galactus didn't have to blast tyrant in order for tyrant to absorb his power? Galactus does it himself. The only difference is that Tyrant doesn't get weaker with hunger.

You should go back and read everything on the character, because there's a ton more context on Galactus, and Tyrant than what was written during their final confrontation. Just saying. Tyrant was going to devour Galactus, and he prepped for centuries in order to take his revenge. Tyrant can drain just about any living creature of its life energy. Look at the assemblage of characters that he was draining with just those heralds. one was magic, three cosmic, one super alien, etc. It didn't matter what they were, he drained them all. Galactus was no different.

And LOL at powerful enough imp. Please.