Depowered Tyrant vs your 5

It was stated over and over that Tyrant was nullified not destroyed:
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/comic/FF414_16.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/comic/FF414_18.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/comic/FF414_33.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/comic/SS_v3_109_17a.jpg.html

Plus it was a buildup from the Nullifiers energies in the first place, so there's really nothing else it could be
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/comic/FF413_22.jpg.html

And the Monitors in Countdown (where Monarch was above Monitors) were getting beaten by Monarch's army of nothing above high herald:
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/comic/11%2022.jpg.html

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/comic/12%2013.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/comic/12%2014.jpg.html

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/comic/13%2011.jpg.html

Carry on Zop

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Carry on Zop

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanks for the Monitor scans. But I'm done here. No point in arguing if he's gonna ignore what's plainly stated on panel.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
You're the best of us all Zop. When you return to Heaven be sure to put in a good word for me.

A Branla endorsement, a clear indication of how evil ZopZop truly is.

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Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
A Branla endorsement, a clear indication of how evil ZopZop truly is.

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Where did the superman OneZee go?

Originally posted by zopzop
Et tu, Brute?

I won't be swayed by small animals.

Condemn the cursed Canadian and all is forgiven.

Originally posted by operator616
Galactus himself said that a battle between him and Tyrant would cause massive destruction, what does that tell you?

So just because Wally has two "attosecond" feats in his entire history we should assume that's the level he'll be operating at. Never mind the time when it was established that Barry needed an entire minute to reach super sonic speeds no matter how hard he tried, or the time Wally needed several seconds to reach mach 8 (there are many other limitations which i could mention but those two are the most recent and usable ones). That's all the time Tyrant needs to one-shot any Flash. But your logic dictates we should take the highest of high feats (and btw, those "attosecond" instances happened twice in the span of 6 or 7 issues and then they were forgotten and never used again from what i remember) and regard everything else, the decades of comics which show that he doesn't operate at these levels, as PIS/CIS.

actually no. In my post I said pretend that flash is a million times SLOWER. Mathematically flash will still have 30,000 years to beat Tyrant instead of 30 billion years. And zoom is far faster than flash.

Originally posted by h1a8
It tells me nothing as Galactus treated him as a child. Tyrant started to absorb Galactus and Galactus realized that.

actually no. In my post I said pretend that flash is a million times SLOWER. Mathematically flash will still have 30,000 years to beat Tyrant instead of 30 billion years. And zoom is far faster than flash.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Buffoonery 101 again from Mr. Superman OneZee. Galactus first battle wasn't a stomp nor easy. In fact, it lasted for years and years before it was resolved. If it was so easy.. and Tyrant not in his class.. the battle would've taken minutes... hours.. a day even... but hundreds of years... Yeah, I'd say he's well above skyfather level. In fact, he'd shit all over Monarch with relative ease.

Move along son.

Originally posted by zopzop

It wasn't a "solar system' level blast. That was the damage it caused AFTER it got through wrecking Galactus' worldship that was meant to contain as much of the blast as possible.

But FF 414 retconned that.

And using collateral damage as the sole gauge of power in comics is idiocy on your part. MM hit Beyonder with a billion dimension slagging blast and Marsha's apartment wasn't even singed. 🙄

Look at those 'weakings'.

Why else would Tyrant win against Monarch?

The Quantum Bands can be uber items in the right hands. Even a noob Quasar used them to shut down a bloodlusted Rogue Watcher. He's used them to absorb and deflect a IG blast from Thanos.

Tyarnt lost after a good fight the first time. Hence why Galactus was hesitant to fight him when he showed up again. [/B]

Its not a feat for Tyrant.

Originally posted by h1a8
It tells me nothing as Galactus treated him as a child. Tyrant started to absorb Galactus and Galactus realized that.

I guess Galactus absorbing an entire planet before facing Tyrant also tells us that he treated him as a child. But how he treated him is irrelevant anyway since we have an on panel fight which clearly shows that Tyrant wasn't some child compared to Galactus. he actually got the better of him.

Originally posted by h1a8

actually no. In my post I said pretend that flash is a million times SLOWER. Mathematically flash will still have 30,000 years to beat Tyrant instead of 30 billion years. And zoom is far faster than flash.

That's not how the Flash's speed works. You have to realize that it requires a lot of concentration for the Flash to operate between seconds. It's not as simple as, hey! the flash has attosecond reaction speed so that means for every second in the real world, several billion years passes for the flash.

No, he can't just live a billion years or even several thousand years in an intensive concentrational state while also figuring out how to beat Tyrant.

This is the main reason why we have showings like Barry unable to react to a stunt gun, or a random thug actually tagging Barry, or Barry requiring 8/100 of a second to change a tire when he went full speed, or Wally sometimes not able to react to lightning, or Wally requiring fifth of a second to react to a bomb, etc... do i have to go on? If the Flashes were always fast enough to just hold the world still for thousands of years whenever they feel like it, these things among countless other instances wouldn't happen.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No scans, no arguing with you.

Move along son.

So you haven't read the arc in question... I didn't think you had, but I'm glad you've now admitted it. To say fighting Galactus for a very prolonged period of time before losing isn't a feat, speaks to the level of your bias Shoes.

Originally posted by operator616
I guess Galactus absorbing an entire planet before facing Tyrant also tells us that he treated him as a child. But how he treated him is irrelevant anyway since we have an on panel fight which clearly shows that Tyrant wasn't some child compared to Galactus. he actually got the better of him.

That's not how the Flash's speed works. You have to realize that it requires a lot of concentration for the Flash to operate between seconds. It's not as simple as, hey! the flash has attosecond reaction speed so that means for every second in the real world, several billion years passes for the flash.

No, he can't just live a billion years or even several thousand years in an intensive concentrational state while also figuring out how to beat Tyrant.

This is the main reason why we have showings like Barry unable to react to a stunt gun, or a random thug actually tagging Barry, or Barry requiring 8/100 of a second to change a tire when he went full speed, or Wally sometimes not able to react to lightning, or Wally requiring fifth of a second to react to a bomb, etc... do i have to go on? If the Flashes were always fast enough to just hold the world still for thousands of years whenever they feel like it, these things among countless other instances wouldn't happen.

Tbh, I'm still waiting for h1 to declare when Zoom ever IMP'd someone.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbh, I'm still waiting for h1 to declare when Zoom ever IMP'd someone.

Pretty sure Zoom never has so h1 will never find that instance.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you haven't read the arc in question... I didn't think you had, but I'm glad you've now admitted it. To say fighting Galactus for a very prolonged period of time before losing isn't a feat, speaks to the level of your bias Shoes.

Scans or it didn't happen.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When has Zoom IMPd?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/3215081-3828655963-47566.jpg

Hit by speed of light is normally the imp in flashs world iirc.

But Zoom is not travelling at that speed. WW herself said so.

So relativity doesn't apply.